Will Villanova become more competitive than ND or Georgetown?

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is tops, Georgetown is distant second, and Holy Cross is third. Gap then aforementioned Boston College gap Villanova and then 100 other regional Catholic schools. Best campus University of San Diego(Catholic school). Ask most non Catholic Ivy grads and will get same response.

Aforementioned BC tops aforementioned HC.

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Anonymous wrote:2025 ranking Villanova is 58

A quick climb to the 30s would require a miracle. Prayers up wildcats!

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is tops, Georgetown is distant second, and Holy Cross is third. Gap then aforementioned Boston College gap Villanova and then 100 other regional Catholic schools. Best campus University of San Diego(Catholic school). Ask most non Catholic Ivy grads and will get same response.

Aforementioned BC tops aforementioned HC.

Not if you care about career outcomes

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HC has a 150 year headstart on Boston College. Won’t close the gap meanwhile crosstown hockey rival is right with the Eagles in rankings. Holy Cross never had a nursing school, school of education (teachers) or a part time night school. The Cross is known fot doctors, lawyers and CEO’s. Simple question why did the Ivies play Holy Cross in the 1890’s and no other Catholic schools(HC is the most played non Ivy for HY, Brown and Dartmouth). The Wasp elites respected HC and not the others. Holy Cross grads have been very successful since the 1840’s.

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Anonymous wrote:HC has a 150 year headstart on Boston College. Won’t close the gap meanwhile crosstown hockey rival is right with the Eagles in rankings. Holy Cross never had a nursing school, school of education (teachers) or a part time night school. The Cross is known fot doctors, lawyers and CEO’s. Simple question why did the Ivies play Holy Cross in the 1890’s and no other Catholic schools(HC is the most played non Ivy for HY, Brown and Dartmouth). The Wasp elites respected HC and not the others. Holy Cross grads have been very successful since the 1840’s.

Doctor>nurse

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Anonymous wrote:HC has a 150 year headstart on Boston College. Won’t close the gap meanwhile crosstown hockey rival is right with the Eagles in rankings. Holy Cross never had a nursing school, school of education (teachers) or a part time night school. The Cross is known fot doctors, lawyers and CEO’s. Simple question why did the Ivies play Holy Cross in the 1890’s and no other Catholic schools(HC is the most played non Ivy for HY, Brown and Dartmouth). The Wasp elites respected HC and not the others. Holy Cross grads have been very successful since the 1840’s.

blah blah blah HC was good in the 1800's and check out its hockey schedule blah blah blah

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the matriculation numbers for perhaps best Jesuit high school in country Regis in NYC Holy Cross outperforms all the others and HC enrollment at 3200 kids is a fraction of Villanova and Boston College same applies for Loyola and Fenwick in Chicago. Alumni success in high profile positions matters Holy Cross, Gtown and ND have it. Take a tour of the top
Catholic schools and look at the ivy growing on older buildings, ND, Holy Cross, and Georgetown have it. The campuses at Villanova, BC, Fairfield and Providence are newer buildings reflecting their transitions to residential colleges,

Way to twist those facts. Based on your questionable logic, Georgetown is #1 Catholic, then BC, and Fordham (tied), then Notre Dame, then Holy Cross.

So if that is the basis of your analysis, which is super weak to begin with, then you are completely wrong. But I'm sure you will now move the goalposts.

https://www.regis.org/downloads/2024%20Regis%20School%20Final%20Profile-v1-1.pdf

Bad argument. The Regis students who go to Jesuit schools benefit from a HUGE hook. My interpretation would be that the ones who go to Holy Cross were not admitted (even though they had a huge hook) to Georgetown or BC.

This is a bad take. I have a son who went to Regis. BC and Georgetown have pretty thin FA and there are plenty of upper middle class families at Regis with more than 2 kids who feel squeezed by those two schools in particular. I heard it frequently. Holy Cross has better merit, more full rides available, at least one Regis kid per year takes that over BC/Georgetown. We also have NMF kids who will take Fordham's scholarship offer over BC and Georgetown acceptances. There's a Santa Clara full ride recipient this year taking it over ND and Georgetown. ND seems to have plenty of 20-25k scholarships and kids will take those over BC and Georgetown too, even if they had some preference for GU. Regis kids get the money part and what that means to their families.

Thanks! I think you made my point -- Regis grads are choosing Holy Cross, Santa Clara, and Fordham (all great schools!) for merit/ financial reasons. Georgetown offers no merit. BC does -- Stamps and Gabelli -- so it would be interesting to see students who won those scholarships choosing Holy Cross over them.

I was pushing back against the idea that Regis students were choosing Holy Cross over Georgetown and BC when all things were equal.

I thought you were making another point, which was that Regis kid going to HC are only going because they didnt't get into GU or BC. They did. But they don't find them worth full pay. This is more true for BC than GU to be fair. These families will pay full fare for HYP over full ride HC or full ride at BC. Stamps at ND will sometime turn heads - even from HYP.

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There are 4 medical schools in Massachusetts, 2 of them have Holy Cross grads. Harvard has been feuding with President Trump recently, the Vice Chairman of the Harvard Corporation is a Holy Cross grad and classmate of Clarence Thomas, HC grads outcomes is amazing:

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^ 2 of the 4 med schools have Holy Cross grads as their respective presidents.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the matriculation numbers for perhaps best Jesuit high school in country Regis in NYC Holy Cross outperforms all the others and HC enrollment at 3200 kids is a fraction of Villanova and Boston College same applies for Loyola and Fenwick in Chicago. Alumni success in high profile positions matters Holy Cross, Gtown and ND have it. Take a tour of the top
Catholic schools and look at the ivy growing on older buildings, ND, Holy Cross, and Georgetown have it. The campuses at Villanova, BC, Fairfield and Providence are newer buildings reflecting their transitions to residential colleges,

Way to twist those facts. Based on your questionable logic, Georgetown is #1 Catholic, then BC, and Fordham (tied), then Notre Dame, then Holy Cross.

So if that is the basis of your analysis, which is super weak to begin with, then you are completely wrong. But I'm sure you will now move the goalposts.

https://www.regis.org/downloads/2024%20Regis%20School%20Final%20Profile-v1-1.pdf

Bad argument. The Regis students who go to Jesuit schools benefit from a HUGE hook. My interpretation would be that the ones who go to Holy Cross were not admitted (even though they had a huge hook) to Georgetown or BC.

This is a bad take. I have a son who went to Regis. BC and Georgetown have pretty thin FA and there are plenty of upper middle class families at Regis with more than 2 kids who feel squeezed by those two schools in particular. I heard it frequently. Holy Cross has better merit, more full rides available, at least one Regis kid per year takes that over BC/Georgetown. We also have NMF kids who will take Fordham's scholarship offer over BC and Georgetown acceptances. There's a Santa Clara full ride recipient this year taking it over ND and Georgetown. ND seems to have plenty of 20-25k scholarships and kids will take those over BC and Georgetown too, even if they had some preference for GU. Regis kids get the money part and what that means to their families.

Thanks! I think you made my point -- Regis grads are choosing Holy Cross, Santa Clara, and Fordham (all great schools!) for merit/ financial reasons. Georgetown offers no merit. BC does -- Stamps and Gabelli -- so it would be interesting to see students who won those scholarships choosing Holy Cross over them.

I was pushing back against the idea that Regis students were choosing Holy Cross over Georgetown and BC when all things were equal.

I thought you were making another point, which was that Regis kid going to HC are only going because they didnt't get into GU or BC. They did. But they don't find them worth full pay. This is more true for BC than GU to be fair. These families will pay full fare for HYP over full ride HC or full ride at BC. Stamps at ND will sometime turn heads - even from HYP.

If you’re rich enough to spend 400k on BC and not feel the pain you’re rich enough to buy your way into a better school and should.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the matriculation numbers for perhaps best Jesuit high school in country Regis in NYC Holy Cross outperforms all the others and HC enrollment at 3200 kids is a fraction of Villanova and Boston College same applies for Loyola and Fenwick in Chicago. Alumni success in high profile positions matters Holy Cross, Gtown and ND have it. Take a tour of the top
Catholic schools and look at the ivy growing on older buildings, ND, Holy Cross, and Georgetown have it. The campuses at Villanova, BC, Fairfield and Providence are newer buildings reflecting their transitions to residential colleges,

Way to twist those facts. Based on your questionable logic, Georgetown is #1 Catholic, then BC, and Fordham (tied), then Notre Dame, then Holy Cross.

So if that is the basis of your analysis, which is super weak to begin with, then you are completely wrong. But I'm sure you will now move the goalposts.

https://www.regis.org/downloads/2024%20Regis%20School%20Final%20Profile-v1-1.pdf

Bad argument. The Regis students who go to Jesuit schools benefit from a HUGE hook. My interpretation would be that the ones who go to Holy Cross were not admitted (even though they had a huge hook) to Georgetown or BC.

This is a bad take. I have a son who went to Regis. BC and Georgetown have pretty thin FA and there are plenty of upper middle class families at Regis with more than 2 kids who feel squeezed by those two schools in particular. I heard it frequently. Holy Cross has better merit, more full rides available, at least one Regis kid per year takes that over BC/Georgetown. We also have NMF kids who will take Fordham's scholarship offer over BC and Georgetown acceptances. There's a Santa Clara full ride recipient this year taking it over ND and Georgetown. ND seems to have plenty of 20-25k scholarships and kids will take those over BC and Georgetown too, even if they had some preference for GU. Regis kids get the money part and what that means to their families.

Thanks! I think you made my point -- Regis grads are choosing Holy Cross, Santa Clara, and Fordham (all great schools!) for merit/ financial reasons. Georgetown offers no merit. BC does -- Stamps and Gabelli -- so it would be interesting to see students who won those scholarships choosing Holy Cross over them.

I was pushing back against the idea that Regis students were choosing Holy Cross over Georgetown and BC when all things were equal.

I thought you were making another point, which was that Regis kid going to HC are only going because they didnt't get into GU or BC. They did. But they don't find them worth full pay. This is more true for BC than GU to be fair. These families will pay full fare for HYP over full ride HC or full ride at BC. Stamps at ND will sometime turn heads - even from HYP.

If you’re rich enough to spend 400k on BC and not feel the pain you’re rich enough to buy your way into a better school and should.

that's also not the point and most kids (at least half) are paying full freight at BC. you need tens of millions to buy your way into a better school.

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NOPE

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With the District's resurgence, Georgetown will top the Catholic college list for a long, long time.

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Anonymous wrote:With the District's resurgence, Georgetown will top the Catholic college list for a long, long time.

Uh... what is the this District resurgence you are speaking of? DC is objectively a worse place than it was 10 years ago.

Anyway, among the Catholic battles, Notre Dame sits comfortably at the top. Georgetown is still ahead of BC for the business/foreign policy majors. Both schools are still weak in STEM, though at least BC is trying. I think Villanova gets a nice pr boost with the new pope, but would regard it as in the same tier as Santa Clara and Gonzaga. All good schools.

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ND, Gtown, and HC are way better than those others.