TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

Anonymous
I would not be surprised if this thread is populated mostly with parents of freshman hoping for plenty of slots to be available for sophomore admissions.

Also, the TJ Admissions office for some reason has historically been incredibly stingy with sophomore admissions. Even when there is PLENTY of room in the class. Example form a few years ago - there were 457 kids and they are we’re allowed to have 480, but only admit 8 of the dozens of sophomore applicants.

I swear the admissions staff is on some kind of power trip when it comes to sophomore and Junior admissions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Asians accounted for 71% of drop outs over the last 5 years


And they account for 69.6% of students over those five years - so "over represented" as far as drop outs go...

Anonymous
Interesting data point. There are MORE Asian students at TJ than in 18-19 and 17-18.

21-22: 1,258
20-21: 1,299
19-20: 1,292
18-19: 1,244
17-18: 1,210

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Interesting data point. There are MORE Asian students at TJ than in 18-19 and 17-18.

21-22: 1,258
20-21: 1,299
19-20: 1,292
18-19: 1,244
17-18: 1,210



It’s a bigger class — why are you comparing numbers? You need a percentage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting data point. There are MORE Asian students at TJ than in 18-19 and 17-18.

21-22: 1,258
20-21: 1,299
19-20: 1,292
18-19: 1,244
17-18: 1,210



It’s a bigger class — why are you comparing numbers? You need a percentage.



But if you’re looking at net effect of changes to the overall # of Asians at TJ it’s HIGHER than it was 3-4 years ago.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was what PP was trying to share but the FCPS monthly membership reports indicate that, as of January 2022, TJ's enrollment was down 11 students from the beginning of the 2021-22 school year.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18, TJ's enrollment was down 4, 2, 11 and 6 students, respectively.

So more kids leaving TJ than in 3 or the past 4 years, but no more than in one of those years (2018-19).



The more relevant statistic should be among 9th graders. Among 9th graders enrollment fell (as of January 2022) by 8 students.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-2019, 2017-18 TJ's enrollment was down 1, 1, 5 and 1 among 9th graders.

In other words, kids leaving TJ is quite alarming on a statistical level. This will probably widen as the months go by.


The best STEM high school in the nation is also offering remedial algebra classes. Can't make this up.

https://defendinged.org/incidents/new-algebra-review-sessions-for-students-at-no-1-high-school-as-higher-rate-of-freshmen-students-drop-out/



Wow this is terrible. These kids should not be at TJ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's an important link that may help to clarify a few things:

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:108:5882865729226::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:300,0

According to these numbers, of the eleven students who have left TJ during this school year, 8 of whom are freshmen....

6 are Asian
4 are Hispanic
1 is white
ZERO are Black

No breakdown of which ones are the freshmen, but still very enlightening.


I look forward to OP coming back and disavowing all of her racist dog whistles.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was what PP was trying to share but the FCPS monthly membership reports indicate that, as of January 2022, TJ's enrollment was down 11 students from the beginning of the 2021-22 school year.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18, TJ's enrollment was down 4, 2, 11 and 6 students, respectively.

So more kids leaving TJ than in 3 or the past 4 years, but no more than in one of those years (2018-19).



The more relevant statistic should be among 9th graders. Among 9th graders enrollment fell (as of January 2022) by 8 students.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-2019, 2017-18 TJ's enrollment was down 1, 1, 5 and 1 among 9th graders.

In other words, kids leaving TJ is quite alarming on a statistical level. This will probably widen as the months go by.


The best STEM high school in the nation is also offering remedial algebra classes. Can't make this up.

https://defendinged.org/incidents/new-algebra-review-sessions-for-students-at-no-1-high-school-as-higher-rate-of-freshmen-students-drop-out/



Wow this is terrible. These kids should not be at TJ.


Yes, all of those Asian kids kids who dropped out should not be at TJ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's an important link that may help to clarify a few things:

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:108:5882865729226::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:300,0

According to these numbers, of the eleven students who have left TJ during this school year, 8 of whom are freshmen....

6 are Asian
4 are Hispanic
1 is white
ZERO are Black

No breakdown of which ones are the freshmen, but still very enlightening.


You might want to do percentages not absolute numbers if you’re trying to make some sort of point.


Sounds good.

Zero percent are black. That’s the point I’m trying to make. They’re not leaving in droves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was what PP was trying to share but the FCPS monthly membership reports indicate that, as of January 2022, TJ's enrollment was down 11 students from the beginning of the 2021-22 school year.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18, TJ's enrollment was down 4, 2, 11 and 6 students, respectively.

So more kids leaving TJ than in 3 or the past 4 years, but no more than in one of those years (2018-19).



The more relevant statistic should be among 9th graders. Among 9th graders enrollment fell (as of January 2022) by 8 students.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-2019, 2017-18 TJ's enrollment was down 1, 1, 5 and 1 among 9th graders.

In other words, kids leaving TJ is quite alarming on a statistical level. This will probably widen as the months go by.


The best STEM high school in the nation is also offering remedial algebra classes. Can't make this up.

https://defendinged.org/incidents/new-algebra-review-sessions-for-students-at-no-1-high-school-as-higher-rate-of-freshmen-students-drop-out/



Wow this is terrible. These kids should not be at TJ.


Yes, all of those Asian kids kids who dropped out should not be at TJ.


PP here, I really don’t care what race the kids are who are taking remedial Algebra. They don’t belong at TJ. If they can’t even hack algebra, you think they are going to be successful in the higher level math and science courses after that? They belong at their base school. TJ should just recommend they go back to their base school. These kids are going to struggle and continue to struggle.

You are making it a race issue, not me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's an important link that may help to clarify a few things:

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:108:5882865729226::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:300,0

According to these numbers, of the eleven students who have left TJ during this school year, 8 of whom are freshmen....

6 are Asian
4 are Hispanic
1 is white
ZERO are Black

No breakdown of which ones are the freshmen, but still very enlightening.


You might want to do percentages not absolute numbers if you’re trying to make some sort of point.


Sounds good.

Zero percent are black. That’s the point I’m trying to make. They’re not leaving in droves.


Maybe they are taking the remedial Algebra course. Why don’t we get numbers on those.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was what PP was trying to share but the FCPS monthly membership reports indicate that, as of January 2022, TJ's enrollment was down 11 students from the beginning of the 2021-22 school year.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18, TJ's enrollment was down 4, 2, 11 and 6 students, respectively.

So more kids leaving TJ than in 3 or the past 4 years, but no more than in one of those years (2018-19).



The more relevant statistic should be among 9th graders. Among 9th graders enrollment fell (as of January 2022) by 8 students.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-2019, 2017-18 TJ's enrollment was down 1, 1, 5 and 1 among 9th graders.

In other words, kids leaving TJ is quite alarming on a statistical level. This will probably widen as the months go by.


The best STEM high school in the nation is also offering remedial algebra classes. Can't make this up.

https://defendinged.org/incidents/new-algebra-review-sessions-for-students-at-no-1-high-school-as-higher-rate-of-freshmen-students-drop-out/



Wow this is terrible. These kids should not be at TJ.


Yes, all of those Asian kids kids who dropped out should not be at TJ.


PP here, I really don’t care what race the kids are who are taking remedial Algebra. They don’t belong at TJ. If they can’t even hack algebra, you think they are going to be successful in the higher level math and science courses after that? They belong at their base school. TJ should just recommend they go back to their base school. These kids are going to struggle and continue to struggle.

You are making it a race issue, not me.


LOL, you literally posted an article screeching about the new admissions standards.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was what PP was trying to share but the FCPS monthly membership reports indicate that, as of January 2022, TJ's enrollment was down 11 students from the beginning of the 2021-22 school year.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18, TJ's enrollment was down 4, 2, 11 and 6 students, respectively.

So more kids leaving TJ than in 3 or the past 4 years, but no more than in one of those years (2018-19).



The more relevant statistic should be among 9th graders. Among 9th graders enrollment fell (as of January 2022) by 8 students.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-2019, 2017-18 TJ's enrollment was down 1, 1, 5 and 1 among 9th graders.

In other words, kids leaving TJ is quite alarming on a statistical level. This will probably widen as the months go by.


The best STEM high school in the nation is also offering remedial algebra classes. Can't make this up.

https://defendinged.org/incidents/new-algebra-review-sessions-for-students-at-no-1-high-school-as-higher-rate-of-freshmen-students-drop-out/



Wow this is terrible. These kids should not be at TJ.


Yes, all of those Asian kids kids who dropped out should not be at TJ.


PP here, I really don’t care what race the kids are who are taking remedial Algebra. They don’t belong at TJ. If they can’t even hack algebra, you think they are going to be successful in the higher level math and science courses after that? They belong at their base school. TJ should just recommend they go back to their base school. These kids are going to struggle and continue to struggle.

You are making it a race issue, not me.


As an admissions counselor for college, it is far better to be outstanding at any DMV high school than to be at the bottom in a school like TJ.

I drill this into parent's heads all the time when they push for all honors classes and 3+ AP classes a year. It's better to be a student in a few honors classes you ace than to be in all honors classes when you only get an A or B in some of them and then struggle in the rest. "It looks better if..." Nope. No. Full stop. A, A, C, C, C, D in honors classes does not look appealing to any college. If your kid can barely maintain a C in an AP course and gets a 3 or less on the exam, it's worthless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's an important link that may help to clarify a few things:

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:108:5882865729226::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:300,0

According to these numbers, of the eleven students who have left TJ during this school year, 8 of whom are freshmen....

6 are Asian
4 are Hispanic
1 is white
ZERO are Black

No breakdown of which ones are the freshmen, but still very enlightening.


You might want to do percentages not absolute numbers if you’re trying to make some sort of point.


Sounds good.

Zero percent are black. That’s the point I’m trying to make. They’re not leaving in droves.


Maybe they are taking the remedial Algebra course. Why don’t we get numbers on those.


Knock yourself out and get them, and then get back to us. Until then, find something better to do than speculate about the academic progress of 14 year olds to support your disgusting and racist narratives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was what PP was trying to share but the FCPS monthly membership reports indicate that, as of January 2022, TJ's enrollment was down 11 students from the beginning of the 2021-22 school year.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18, TJ's enrollment was down 4, 2, 11 and 6 students, respectively.

So more kids leaving TJ than in 3 or the past 4 years, but no more than in one of those years (2018-19).



The more relevant statistic should be among 9th graders. Among 9th graders enrollment fell (as of January 2022) by 8 students.

Over the same periods in 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-2019, 2017-18 TJ's enrollment was down 1, 1, 5 and 1 among 9th graders.

In other words, kids leaving TJ is quite alarming on a statistical level. This will probably widen as the months go by.


The best STEM high school in the nation is also offering remedial algebra classes. Can't make this up.

https://defendinged.org/incidents/new-algebra-review-sessions-for-students-at-no-1-high-school-as-higher-rate-of-freshmen-students-drop-out/



Wow this is terrible. These kids should not be at TJ.


Yes, all of those Asian kids kids who dropped out should not be at TJ.


PP here, I really don’t care what race the kids are who are taking remedial Algebra. They don’t belong at TJ. If they can’t even hack algebra, you think they are going to be successful in the higher level math and science courses after that? They belong at their base school. TJ should just recommend they go back to their base school. These kids are going to struggle and continue to struggle.

You are making it a race issue, not me.


LOL, you literally posted an article screeching about the new admissions standards.


Nope, I did not post the article but I looked at the data and read about the remedial Algebra offering.

You don’t get it. TJ is not going to help these kids at all. In fact it’s going to be a big hit to their self confidence, that they are not good enough, smart enough. They will be looked at as the dumb kids. They will struggle thru high school. For what? To say they went to TJ when they really don’t belong there? To ultimately end up in the bottom 1/3rd of 1/2 of the class.

The kids who dropped out already was smart enough to know that. They were not cut for this place. They left and their high school experience and mental health will be far better for it.
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