Why is "freedom" a wedge issue for the right?

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I think an argument could be made that Democrats and Republicans have different views of what aspects of freedom are important. Democrats favor abortion, for example, but not being able to choose other healthcare matters such as taking vaccines. But to answer the OP, here are issues that matter to Republicans that Democrats tend to take an opposite view on:

Democrats favor the government or corporations censoring "false information" even if that impacts free speech: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/20/most-americans-favor-restrictions-on-false-information-violent-content-online/

29% of democrats believe unvaccinated parents should lose custody of their children: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated

51% of likely Biden voters believe unvaccinated people should be interred in "designated facilities": https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated

Democrats have more favorable views of socialism, and more negative views of capitalism: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/09/19/modest-declines-in-positive-views-of-socialism-and-capitalism-in-u-s/


Also: Republicans support school shootings and mass shootings. They're the price of freedom.


That's intellectually dishonest. Republicans don't believe that gun control will reduce mass shootings. That is a different belief than "supporting" mass shootings. I could argue that democrats support mass shootings because they cut funding to law enforcement and demand more lenient sentences for violent offenders. But I wouldn't make that argument because I have scruples.


No, it isn't. History already shows that gun control will reduce mass shootings. The AWB reduced mass shootings significantly, and when it expired, mass shootings shot up. That's proven historical fact. You are either clueless or have absolutely zero scruples.


+1000. Emphasis on factual aspects added.
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Anonymous wrote:Few people don't believe in any government or laws at all, and everybody has different conceptions for what a free and just society society looks like. So why do right-wingers insist that they're "pro-freedom" and liberals and the left are "against freedom"?


Because you tried to force people to do your bidding during Covid (as an example) And wished them dead if they didn't? Left wingers are just evil now.


This.
Add to that the fact that the current administration pressured social media to censor and delete accounts of people who disagreed with the government narrative - even if those people dissenting were right.

The Democrats are proving daily that they are against freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and other freedoms outlined in our Constitution.
Anonymous
Because you tried to force people to do your bidding during Covid (as an example) And wished them dead if they didn't? Left wingers are just evil now.


The dumbness of MAGA types is on display whenever they try to issue a zinger. "Do your bidding" means seeking for someone else to take on a task or duty that is yours, or to represent or advocate on your behalf. Asking people to wear a mask in public spaces during a pandemic is not doing anyone's bidding.

But MAGA types don't need no schoolin' Knowledge is for nerds!

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Same reason they constantly shout about the First Amendment without any understanding of it whatsoever.
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Anonymous wrote:Same reason they constantly shout about the First Amendment without any understanding of it whatsoever.


It is this administration that lacks a total understanding of the first amendment.
Or, perhaps they understand it.... they simply don't respect it.
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Anonymous wrote:Same reason they constantly shout about the First Amendment without any understanding of it whatsoever.


It is this administration that lacks a total understanding of the first amendment.
Or, perhaps they understand it.... they simply don't respect it.


You're nattering nonsense. You make as much sense as the RWNJ idiots randomly yelling "COMMUNISM" and other stupid things.
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Anonymous wrote:Same reason they constantly shout about the First Amendment without any understanding of it whatsoever.


It is this administration that lacks a total understanding of the first amendment.
Or, perhaps they understand it.... they simply don't respect it.


You're nattering nonsense. You make as much sense as the RWNJ idiots randomly yelling "COMMUNISM" and other stupid things.


We have seen plenty of evidence of the Biden administration's lack of respect for the 1st amendment.
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Anonymous wrote:Few people don't believe in any government or laws at all, and everybody has different conceptions for what a free and just society society looks like. So why do right-wingers insist that they're "pro-freedom" and liberals and the left are "against freedom"?


Because you tried to force people to do your bidding during Covid (as an example) And wished them dead if they didn't? Left wingers are just evil now.


This.
Add to that the fact that the current administration pressured social media to censor and delete accounts of people who disagreed with the government narrative - even if those people dissenting were right.

The Democrats are proving daily that they are against freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and other freedoms outlined in our Constitution.


We were all here is 2020. You can’t gaslight us about what happened. Everything had to shut down because a pandemic was spreading rapidly around the world, people were dying, and hospitals were overwhelmed.

You a**holes were horrible to essential workers and health care workers and everyone else who was working to keep civil society functioning, so every kind of building or facility had to either shut down or limit access. It wasn’t the Democrats who did it. It was every rational person in the country being forced to protect themselves from you moronic a**holes who couldn’t be responsible citizens for a few weeks. You jackasses killed people. You crybabies were the villains during the pandemic.
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Anonymous wrote:Few people don't believe in any government or laws at all, and everybody has different conceptions for what a free and just society society looks like. So why do right-wingers insist that they're "pro-freedom" and liberals and the left are "against freedom"?


Because you tried to force people to do your bidding during Covid (as an example) And wished them dead if they didn't? Left wingers are just evil now.


This.
Add to that the fact that the current administration pressured social media to censor and delete accounts of people who disagreed with the government narrative - even if those people dissenting were right.

The Democrats are proving daily that they are against freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and other freedoms outlined in our Constitution.


We were all here is 2020. You can’t gaslight us about what happened. Everything had to shut down because a pandemic was spreading rapidly around the world, people were dying, and hospitals were overwhelmed.

You a**holes were horrible to essential workers and health care workers and everyone else who was working to keep civil society functioning, so every kind of building or facility had to either shut down or limit access. It wasn’t the Democrats who did it. It was every rational person in the country being forced to protect themselves from you moronic a**holes who couldn’t be responsible citizens for a few weeks. You jackasses killed people. You crybabies were the villains during the pandemic.


Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Few people don't believe in any government or laws at all, and everybody has different conceptions for what a free and just society society looks like. So why do right-wingers insist that they're "pro-freedom" and liberals and the left are "against freedom"?


Whatever people “say” on either side, this hardly seems like a wedge issue.

Rs favor self reliance and “smaller government” (at least with respect to social welfare, the Rs are fully capable of breaking budgets for their own pet spending priorities). Ds favor more, ever larger social welfare programs, which come with terms and conditions, which place limits on individual rights. “Freedom” is the absence of such terms and conditions? Thats my gut reaction anyway.
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Anonymous wrote:Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.


Has anyone ever told you how funny you are?


Wonder if this will work on a carjacker? Hope that PP never has to find out


When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.


Trumpian mindset to a 'T'

Anonymous
Those who believe that democrats are part of a blood-drinking, child trafficking cabal would do well to remember that that QAnon nonsense originated on 8chan, a website that regularly hosted child pornography and built its audience around being “less restrictive” than 4chan when it came to such things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Voters know when they get told:
“Vax, or no more job.” That’s coercion to poor people. They couldn’t feed their children if they got fired from their jobs. Democrats did that to them.


+1 Also we'll keep taxing you at the same rate but no longer provide open public schools so you're on your own to provide the education and childcare that you're paying for.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.


Has anyone ever told you how funny you are?


Wonder if this will work on a carjacker? Hope that PP never has to find out


When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.


Trumpian mindset to a 'T'



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