Travis and Taylor

[Anonymous]

But what I don't get PP is literally what's in it for Taylor Swift. I fully get how Travis Kelce could benefit from this (literally anyone she dated would be less famous, have less clout, have less publicity, literally anyone), but Taylor Swift? She needs absolutely zero help selling music, selling out stadiums, having exposure by simply walking outside of her apartment (she seems left alone when at other residences I guess). What does she gain from this? She needs literally nothing in her life that anyone can give her, other than a relationship. She can't buy that, and that's why I think this is real.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That awkward kiss between the two of them is what made me realize the relationship was totally fake.

Travis is only attracted to Taylor’s fame and money. Look at how Travis interacts with Taylor versus how he interacted with his ex Kayla.

Yep

Where's Nicole now? Back into obscurity until she finds another rich athlete to glob onto. Many WAGs hang all over their boyfriend/husband to show all us regulars whose property they are. Taylor doesn't need and/or may not want that level of PDA. You are the same women using a few seconds of video to say Travis's old relationship is totally real, but same few seconds to say Taylor's is fake. Grasping at straws.

Sending cute dog pics and videos to Travis until they’re able to reunite after this circus is over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But what I don't get PP is literally what's in it for Taylor Swift. I fully get how Travis Kelce could benefit from this (literally anyone she dated would be less famous, have less clout, have less publicity, literally anyone), but Taylor Swift? She needs absolutely zero help selling music, selling out stadiums, having exposure by simply walking outside of her apartment (she seems left alone when at other residences I guess). What does she gain from this? She needs literally nothing in her life that anyone can give her, other than a relationship. She can't buy that, and that's why I think this is real.

Eh, that's not the mentality of someone like Taylor Swift.

One thing about people who are extremely successful is that there is always more, there's always another goal or another level they can reach. I think the Kelce relationship has helped her. It helped her turn the page on Alwyn and Healy, which were both somewhat negative gossip stories for her (Alwyn less so but it was still viewed as a "failed relationship"). I think the timing of her relationship with Kelce helped her get selected for Time's person of the year feature, which is the kind of "honor" that people at this level can actually be quite obsessive about.

After a relationship with a reclusive British guy, and then a short-lived fling with someone who turned out to be kind of a $hitheel, what better way to burnish her image as America's Success Barbie than to have a very public relationship with a superstar athlete. And not just any athlete, but a football player. After all, the NFL is the Taylor Swift of American sports -- no matter what people say about it or how some haters complain, it just gets more and more popular. It's a juggernaut. From Taylor's perspective, the appeal of uniting multiple extremely successful brands and seeing how it explodes the internet, is probably fun. If you don't think Taylor knows how her her relationship with Kelce has boosted sales of his jersey, interest in the Chiefs and football generally, even potentially ad dollars for the NFL (did the league flex more Chiefs games to prime time knowing Taylor would drive interest? Did advertisers pay extra to be positioned next to bumpers featuring Taylor? I'd be curious to know), you're crazy. She knows. People at this level know and they care.

You think someone becomes Taylor Swift at this level and things "well, that was fun, I've done it all -- time to ride off into the sunset with a hunk." No way. She's still climbing. She wants to know how high she can get and she's not done yet.

[Anonymous]

This is just a fun fling for her. The coverage of it, the adoration, it's all just fun and they're prob having great new relationship sex...but she's too smart for him. It won't last. She'll get bored of him. She doesn't need his fame or his money. Eventually when the hottness of the new relationship wears off, she'll realize they don't have much in common. She's actually a really smart person, and given what I've heard from him in past years, he's a great guy, amazing athlete, but I'm sure there isn't a lot of scintillating conversation happening between them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But what I don't get PP is literally what's in it for Taylor Swift. I fully get how Travis Kelce could benefit from this (literally anyone she dated would be less famous, have less clout, have less publicity, literally anyone), but Taylor Swift? She needs absolutely zero help selling music, selling out stadiums, having exposure by simply walking outside of her apartment (she seems left alone when at other residences I guess). What does she gain from this? She needs literally nothing in her life that anyone can give her, other than a relationship. She can't buy that, and that's why I think this is real.

Eh, that's not the mentality of someone like Taylor Swift.

One thing about people who are extremely successful is that there is always more, there's always another goal or another level they can reach. I think the Kelce relationship has helped her. It helped her turn the page on Alwyn and Healy, which were both somewhat negative gossip stories for her (Alwyn less so but it was still viewed as a "failed relationship"). I think the timing of her relationship with Kelce helped her get selected for Time's person of the year feature, which is the kind of "honor" that people at this level can actually be quite obsessive about.

After a relationship with a reclusive British guy, and then a short-lived fling with someone who turned out to be kind of a $hitheel, what better way to burnish her image as America's Success Barbie than to have a very public relationship with a superstar athlete. And not just any athlete, but a football player. After all, the NFL is the Taylor Swift of American sports -- no matter what people say about it or how some haters complain, it just gets more and more popular. It's a juggernaut. From Taylor's perspective, the appeal of uniting multiple extremely successful brands and seeing how it explodes the internet, is probably fun. If you don't think Taylor knows how her her relationship with Kelce has boosted sales of his jersey, interest in the Chiefs and football generally, even potentially ad dollars for the NFL (did the league flex more Chiefs games to prime time knowing Taylor would drive interest? Did advertisers pay extra to be positioned next to bumpers featuring Taylor? I'd be curious to know), you're crazy. She knows. People at this level know and they care.

You think someone becomes Taylor Swift at this level and things "well, that was fun, I've done it all -- time to ride off into the sunset with a hunk." No way. She's still climbing. She wants to know how high she can get and she's not done yet.

I disagree 10000% that she needed Travis Kelce to get Time Magazine's Person of the Year. She achieved billionaire status through a ridiculously, ongoing successful worldwide tour and a movie, etc. She needed no one to get her there, just like all of her other achievements. They are achieved on her own, and it's her coattails people are riding, not the other way around (as you noted yourself above). I can see your point that she wanted to rebound from the douche she dated after Joe Alwyn, who I know nothing about other than his ties to her, but we all rebound from relationships. This is nothing but human behavior. I don't think she's done climbing, either. But if anyone is riding off with anyone, it's him with her, not the other way around. I just don't see her riding on anyone's coattails for anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But what I don't get PP is literally what's in it for Taylor Swift. I fully get how Travis Kelce could benefit from this (literally anyone she dated would be less famous, have less clout, have less publicity, literally anyone), but Taylor Swift? She needs absolutely zero help selling music, selling out stadiums, having exposure by simply walking outside of her apartment (she seems left alone when at other residences I guess). What does she gain from this? She needs literally nothing in her life that anyone can give her, other than a relationship. She can't buy that, and that's why I think this is real.

This has generated record-breaking female viewers and impressions for NFL among target (prime) female audience, to the tune of over $330 million thus far. You don't think Swift and her ruthless dad are getting a piece? NFL generates over $20 billion a year. NFL also just randomly scored the rights to her music to use on socials and TV? Come on, everyone is in on this charade. The public is being duped.

[Anonymous]

They are in their 30's and hope for the same things we all want: marriage and children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is just a fun fling for her. The coverage of it, the adoration, it's all just fun and they're prob having great new relationship sex...but she's too smart for him. It won't last. She'll get bored of him. She doesn't need his fame or his money. Eventually when the hottness of the new relationship wears off, she'll realize they don't have much in common. She's actually a really smart person, and given what I've heard from him in past years, he's a great guy, amazing athlete, but I'm sure there isn't a lot of scintillating conversation happening between them.

It's not a fling, it's fake. We can all tell because there is zero chemistry. It's all performative theater kid cringe. Kelce is either closeted or he's gotta be chomping at the bit to cheat on her, presumably with a Black woman since that's all he's dated.

[Anonymous]

So refreshing to see a successful woman being torn down, dismissed and the credit for her success being given to the man she's dating..... by other women. THIS is why men will always run the world, because women can't stand cheering on another women or at the very least giving her credit for creating her own success.

[Anonymous]

Taylor Swift "dating" Travis Kelce is faker than Kylie Jenner "dating" Timothée Chalamet.

Bread, circuses, and fake celebrity relationships for the stupid masses to lap up and distract themselves with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But what I don't get PP is literally what's in it for Taylor Swift. I fully get how Travis Kelce could benefit from this (literally anyone she dated would be less famous, have less clout, have less publicity, literally anyone), but Taylor Swift? She needs absolutely zero help selling music, selling out stadiums, having exposure by simply walking outside of her apartment (she seems left alone when at other residences I guess). What does she gain from this? She needs literally nothing in her life that anyone can give her, other than a relationship. She can't buy that, and that's why I think this is real.

Eh, that's not the mentality of someone like Taylor Swift.

One thing about people who are extremely successful is that there is always more, there's always another goal or another level they can reach. I think the Kelce relationship has helped her. It helped her turn the page on Alwyn and Healy, which were both somewhat negative gossip stories for her (Alwyn less so but it was still viewed as a "failed relationship"). I think the timing of her relationship with Kelce helped her get selected for Time's person of the year feature, which is the kind of "honor" that people at this level can actually be quite obsessive about.

After a relationship with a reclusive British guy, and then a short-lived fling with someone who turned out to be kind of a $hitheel, what better way to burnish her image as America's Success Barbie than to have a very public relationship with a superstar athlete. And not just any athlete, but a football player. After all, the NFL is the Taylor Swift of American sports -- no matter what people say about it or how some haters complain, it just gets more and more popular. It's a juggernaut. From Taylor's perspective, the appeal of uniting multiple extremely successful brands and seeing how it explodes the internet, is probably fun. If you don't think Taylor knows how her her relationship with Kelce has boosted sales of his jersey, interest in the Chiefs and football generally, even potentially ad dollars for the NFL (did the league flex more Chiefs games to prime time knowing Taylor would drive interest? Did advertisers pay extra to be positioned next to bumpers featuring Taylor? I'd be curious to know), you're crazy. She knows. People at this level know and they care.

You think someone becomes Taylor Swift at this level and things "well, that was fun, I've done it all -- time to ride off into the sunset with a hunk." No way. She's still climbing. She wants to know how high she can get and she's not done yet.

I disagree 10000% that she needed Travis Kelce to get Time Magazine's Person of the Year. She achieved billionaire status through a ridiculously, ongoing successful worldwide tour and a movie, etc. She needed no one to get her there, just like all of her other achievements. They are achieved on her own, and it's her coattails people are riding, not the other way around (as you noted yourself above). I can see your point that she wanted to rebound from the douche she dated after Joe Alwyn, who I know nothing about other than his ties to her, but we all rebound from relationships. This is nothing but human behavior. I don't think she's done climbing, either. But if anyone is riding off with anyone, it's him with her, not the other way around. I just don't see her riding on anyone's coattails for anything.

You misunderstand me. I don't think she needed Travis Kelce to get Person of the Year. She doesn't "need" anyone.

I'm saying she is using Kelce and this "relationship" to accomplish certain publicity goals, namely to turn coverage of her love life from a negative to a positive, give her ample opportunities to be seen interacting with "regular people" (i.e. Kelce's family and friends) which make her seem more relatable and down to earth, as well as to flex the muscle of her marketing power in a new arena (pro sports).

It's not that she was like "oh no if I don't become this football players girlfriend, no one will think I'm successful." She's a marketing genius. Before the Kelce relationship, she was widely lauded as an enormous creative and financial success BUT had a reputation for dating "bad" guys. I think the Healy/Ice Spice incident was a problem for her (she went to great lengths to correct it) and she wanted to turn the page on that story. She has used Kelce to do that, quite successfully.

She's in charge. That doesn't mean the relationship is real and not a publicity stunt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift "dating" Travis Kelce is faker than Kylie Jenner "dating" Timothée Chalamet.

Bread, circuses, and fake celebrity relationships for the stupid masses to lap up and distract themselves with.

Kylie Jenner and Chalamet make perfect sense together. I have no idea why people scream fake on that one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are in their 30's and hope for the same things we all want: marriage and children.

I actually do believe there's a decent chance they get married and she has a baby at the end of her tour. If you watch her interact with kids who are fans, she seems like a sweet person who genuinely likes kids. Her BFF Blake Lively is a mom of four that she is close with. Travis could retire from football and want the same life as his brother. This situation reminds me of the Sex and the City line about men who are ready to get married being taxi cabs with their light on - they pick up the next eligible rider. I see that for both of them here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% fake and they have zero charisma. Two theater kids pretending to be in love with each other. American consumers are gullible saps.

Down to Travis gifting Taylor a cheap CZ tennis bracelet that was gifted by a jeweler seeking publicity.

Part of the problem is you don't even know the facts, surprise, surprise

Facts: Golfer Michelle Wie, who knows Kelce, let him know she had a LUXURY friendship bracelet collaboration with an small, women-owned jeweler in Lancaster, PA. He then ordered 2 bracelets, one for Taylor and one for himself. They're gold with a shit-ton of diamonds. The jeweler now is overwhelmed with business - why is this bad that a small business has benefitted from Taylor wearing their piece?

https://lancasteronline.com/features/entertainment/a-lancaster-county-jeweler-made-taylor-swifts-viral-tnt-friendship-bracelet-update/article_25260a58-bf7a-11ee-9824-6f45229a57ff.html

Dufrene and Wove collaborators Abbie Shedleski, computer animated designer, and Liz Beard, head goldsmith, say they had to keep the secret from their Swiftie children. Beard photographed her daughter in the bracelet before shipping it off to Kelce, she says, so that she could later surprise her daughter that it now belonged to Swift.

The bracelet was designed with the significance of Swift fans' friendship bracelets -- they're often made and traded at her concerts. Swift's bracelet, which features diamond-lettered beads, cost $6,360, says Dufrene.

"We elevated the friendship bracelet look with diamonds and 14-carat gold," Dufrene says. "What's better than that?"

Kelce bought a bracelet from Wove to match Swift's bracelet. The main difference is that the beads and diamonds are a little larger in Kelce's bracelet. Dufrene declined to disclose the price for the custom project.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a weird thing to comment on - "chemistry" between two people, like they owe you that performance. But then when they are in fact showing affection, or support, it's not right either. She's too "extra" or he's "extra" or she's showing up wearing the wrong thing, like she's there for your consumption to be entertained properly, but then 24 seconds is too long for you.

She will never please some of you, and in this regard (a relationship) she doesn't have to please any of you, only herself and the person she's in a relationship with. Even my mother for crying out loud said "she's just trying to be normal while everyone else around her isn't." She hid her relationship for 6 years. She's simply not hiding anymore.

Agree!