ACPS is using 65+ sq ft/student for hybrid spacing--well above CDC recommended spacing

[Anonymous]

I’m all for it! 6 feet was the minimum, and research since the recommendation to keep at least 6 feet apart has shown that the virus lingers in the air at distances greater than 6 feet.


+1 I see someone is already mocking you but please know that there are other reasonable parents like us who completely support a calm and rational approach to the reopening of schools. We'd much rather be safe than sorry.


+1 Absolutely!!!

No one is mocking anyone. However, it is not going to be possible to go back at all, under hybrid or other, if spacing constraints beyond those recommended by the CDC are imposed. It is completely fine if people are not comfortable with that for their own kids, and they do not have to send them - virtual remains an option. However, it is unreasonable to advocate for imposing requirements beyond those recommended by the CDC on other people's kids. Frankly, it does not affect you, because your kids would remain in virtual if the additional requirements are imposed, just as you would have the right to elect for them to do if the additional requirements were not imposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ah a FOIA. That's so sweet. I used to be like you. Honestly, it's a much better use of your time to fill in the giant cracks in your kids' ACPS education. Not one school board member or ACPS functionary will care. And if you complain too much for other parents' taste...the mean girls will come for you. Let it go. The kids aren't going back this calendar year.

A FOIA takes 7 minutes. Filling in the cracks in my child's education takes at least 9 months so far, thanks to the spineless turds at ACPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ah a FOIA. That's so sweet. I used to be like you. Honestly, it's a much better use of your time to fill in the giant cracks in your kids' ACPS education. Not one school board member or ACPS functionary will care. And if you complain too much for other parents' taste...the mean girls will come for you. Let it go. The kids aren't going back this calendar year.

A FOIA takes 7 minutes. Filling in the cracks in my child's education takes at least 9 months so far, thanks to the spineless turds at ACPS.

I found out in March that I've got years of cracks to fill in. It was the world's weirdest blessing to find out but I envy you just the nine months!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m all for it! 6 feet was the minimum, and research since the recommendation to keep at least 6 feet apart has shown that the virus lingers in the air at distances greater than 6 feet.


+1 I see someone is already mocking you but please know that there are other reasonable parents like us who completely support a calm and rational approach to the reopening of schools. We'd much rather be safe than sorry.


+1 Absolutely!!!

No one is mocking anyone. However, it is not going to be possible to go back at all, under hybrid or other, if spacing constraints beyond those recommended by the CDC are imposed. It is completely fine if people are not comfortable with that for their own kids, and they do not have to send them - virtual remains an option. However, it is unreasonable to advocate for imposing requirements beyond those recommended by the CDC on other people's kids. Frankly, it does not affect you, because your kids would remain in virtual if the additional requirements are imposed, just as you would have the right to elect for them to do if the additional requirements were not imposed.

Actually it DOES affect me if your actions cause a teacher to become ill, or a family member to become ill, or for any of them to die. Allowing the kind of negligent and careless behavior that you are suggesting by opening schools for face-to-face learning negatively affects the entire community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I’m all for it! 6 feet was the minimum, and research since the recommendation to keep at least 6 feet apart has shown that the virus lingers in the air at distances greater than 6 feet.


+1 I see someone is already mocking you but please know that there are other reasonable parents like us who completely support a calm and rational approach to the reopening of schools. We'd much rather be safe than sorry.


+1 Absolutely!!!


No one is mocking anyone. However, it is not going to be possible to go back at all, under hybrid or other, if spacing constraints beyond those recommended by the CDC are imposed. It is completely fine if people are not comfortable with that for their own kids, and they do not have to send them - virtual remains an option. However, it is unreasonable to advocate for imposing requirements beyond those recommended by the CDC on other people's kids. Frankly, it does not affect you, because your kids would remain in virtual if the additional requirements are imposed, just as you would have the right to elect for them to do if the additional requirements were not imposed.


Actually it DOES affect me if your actions cause a teacher to become ill, or a family member to become ill, or for any of them to die. Allowing the kind of negligent and careless behavior that you are suggesting by opening schools for face-to-face learning negatively affects the entire community.

Actually, ACPS teachers will likely be vaccinated by the time that students go back, but they don't have to go back to teach, even if they are vaccinated. ACPS will allow them to continue to teach from home, and will hire classroom monitors. For someone who is feigning such concern, you don't seem very tied into what the district's actual plan for hybrid learning would be.

Finally, presumably, the CDC and state health department know better than you what is required in terms of distancing, so I will go with their recommendation over your hysteria.

[Anonymous]

The spacing metrics are the key to not reopening this school year. We could have a very low positivity rate but with the unnecessary constraints they’ve opted to create, ACPS will always be able to fall back on insufficient building and staff capacity. It’s actually quite shameful. Even with the additional spacing they could have brought back special needs students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m all for it! 6 feet was the minimum, and research since the recommendation to keep at least 6 feet apart has shown that the virus lingers in the air at distances greater than 6 feet.


+1 I see someone is already mocking you but please know that there are other reasonable parents like us who completely support a calm and rational approach to the reopening of schools. We'd much rather be safe than sorry.


+1 Absolutely!!!

No one is mocking anyone. However, it is not going to be possible to go back at all, under hybrid or other, if spacing constraints beyond those recommended by the CDC are imposed. It is completely fine if people are not comfortable with that for their own kids, and they do not have to send them - virtual remains an option. However, it is unreasonable to advocate for imposing requirements beyond those recommended by the CDC on other people's kids. Frankly, it does not affect you, because your kids would remain in virtual if the additional requirements are imposed, just as you would have the right to elect for them to do if the additional requirements were not imposed.

The CDC recommendation is, and always has been, AT LEAST six feet. Not exactly 6 feet. That practical recommendation was made in recognition of the fact that it’s not always going to be possible to stay more than six feet away from others in all environments, but that people should be mindful to stay at least six feet apart. Six feet is approximately how far droplets fly from someone’s mouth when speaking, coughing, etc. the fact that the virus lingers in the air renders the six-feet recommendation less helpful.

[Anonymous]

News flash: CDC recommends 6 feet, WHEN POSSIBLE. Not more than 6 feet, always. Words matter people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:News flash: CDC recommends 6 feet, WHEN POSSIBLE. Not more than 6 feet, always. Words matter people.

News flash: read the CDC recommendation before making silly statements! It’s at least six feet.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m all for it! 6 feet was the minimum, and research since the recommendation to keep at least 6 feet apart has shown that the virus lingers in the air at distances greater than 6 feet.


+1 I see someone is already mocking you but please know that there are other reasonable parents like us who completely support a calm and rational approach to the reopening of schools. We'd much rather be safe than sorry.


+1 Absolutely!!!

No one is mocking anyone. However, it is not going to be possible to go back at all, under hybrid or other, if spacing constraints beyond those recommended by the CDC are imposed. It is completely fine if people are not comfortable with that for their own kids, and they do not have to send them - virtual remains an option. However, it is unreasonable to advocate for imposing requirements beyond those recommended by the CDC on other people's kids. Frankly, it does not affect you, because your kids would remain in virtual if the additional requirements are imposed, just as you would have the right to elect for them to do if the additional requirements were not imposed.

Actually it DOES affect me if your actions cause a teacher to become ill, or a family member to become ill, or for any of them to die. Allowing the kind of negligent and careless behavior that you are suggesting by opening schools for face-to-face learning negatively affects the entire community.

+1,000. Idiots with their "you do you and I'll do me" BS during a pandemic. No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash: CDC recommends 6 feet, WHEN POSSIBLE. Not more than 6 feet, always. Words matter people.

News flash: read the CDC recommendation before making silly statements! It’s at least six feet.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html

Correctly interpreting policy guidelines sometimes requires reading more than one sentence:

"Social Distancing to the extent possible: Maintain a distance of at least 6 feet between people."

Also, VDH guidance which further expands the concept and even suggests 3 feet is fine if masks are being used (which they will be):

"VDH recommends that all schools, regardless of the level of transmission risk in a school, should:
● Implement strategies for all individuals within a school to maintain six feet of physical distance from each other, to the greatest extent possible.

o The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommends “keeping desks at least 3 feet apart, and ideally 6 feet apart.” Maintaining less than six feet of distance should only be considered if all students are wearing masks correctly and do not have symptoms of illness."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash: CDC recommends 6 feet, WHEN POSSIBLE. Not more than 6 feet, always. Words matter people.

News flash: read the CDC recommendation before making silly statements! It’s at least six feet.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html

Correctly interpreting policy guidelines sometimes requires reading more than one sentence:

"Social Distancing to the extent possible: Maintain a distance of at least 6 feet between people."

Also, VDH guidance which further expands the concept and even suggests 3 feet is fine if masks are being used (which they will be):

"VDH recommends that all schools, regardless of the level of transmission risk in a school, should:
● Implement strategies for all individuals within a school to maintain six feet of physical distance from each other, to the greatest extent possible.

o The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommends “keeping desks at least 3 feet apart, and ideally 6 feet apart.” Maintaining less than six feet of distance should only be considered if all students are wearing masks correctly and do not have symptoms of illness."

Right. To the extent possible. At least 6 feet. Are you saying it’s not possible for ACPS to do more than the bare minimum when it comes to distancing guidelines? I sure hope not.

[Anonymous]

Yep that's exactly what I'm saying. There is limited ability to space out at 6 ft, because it drastically impacts capacity. And because the AAP, VDH, and yes, the CDC say that schools should be finding all possible ways to get as many students back in the classroom, the phrase "to the extent possible" is what gives.

Look, I get it. Even with vaccinated staff, you want to hunker down in a cave for the rest of your life. Then choose virtual and let the others get their kids a proper education.

[Anonymous]

Dr. Gregory Hutchings and his Mayor Justin Wilson say schools should not be open until the dual pandemics of racism and COVID are addressed to their satisfaction. Don’t believe me? Go ahead and ask them.

8 feet vs. 6 feet got nothing to do with anything.

[Anonymous]

I’m all for it! 6 feet was the minimum, and research since the recommendation to keep at least 6 feet apart has shown that the virus lingers in the air at distances greater than 6 feet.


+1 I see someone is already mocking you but please know that there are other reasonable parents like us who completely support a calm and rational approach to the reopening of schools. We'd much rather be safe than sorry.


+1 Absolutely!!!


No one is mocking anyone. However, it is not going to be possible to go back at all, under hybrid or other, if spacing constraints beyond those recommended by the CDC are imposed. It is completely fine if people are not comfortable with that for their own kids, and they do not have to send them - virtual remains an option. However, it is unreasonable to advocate for imposing requirements beyond those recommended by the CDC on other people's kids. Frankly, it does not affect you, because your kids would remain in virtual if the additional requirements are imposed, just as you would have the right to elect for them to do if the additional requirements were not imposed.


Actually it DOES affect me if your actions cause a teacher to become ill, or a family member to become ill, or for any of them to die. Allowing the kind of negligent and careless behavior that you are suggesting by opening schools for face-to-face learning negatively affects the entire community.


+1,000. Idiots with their "you do you and I'll do me" BS during a pandemic. No.

Then you can petition the CDC, VA Dept of Health, and AAP to adopt your postion, but to date, they have not. Frankly, I think the pandemic has brought out the worst in people in multiple ways - people who refuse to comply with legitimate regulations, reguirements, and recommendations; and people who impose their own view of what is correct when it is not supported by any official body, and show how they are the best social distancers ever, beyond anything that any official body recommends.