which private school has the most "mean girls"?

Anonymous
I have spent quite a bit of time reading what is available in "parenting" literature on the "mean girl" phenomenon and spent some time in the trenches as a female who attend one all-girls school for 4 years, and now as a mom of an 8 year old son and 6 year old daughter. It is interesting stuff, especially because there is a widely held and accepted belief that girls do better in all-female school environments. I do not disagree with this but do think its the best enviroment for all girls.

I have been amazed at the gender differences I see in my children and theirs peers. I say this as one who, prior to becoming a parent, adhered to the "gender differences are purely socialized" theory. Now, my son is probably a bit more "gentle" than many of his peers but he still has overt male tendecies and gravitated to cars, trucks, airplanes, construction, etc.. as a young toddler even though I provided him with feather boas and sparkly wands and baby dolls. My daughter on the other hand has a deep nurturing streak but has little interest in dolls, preferring stuffed animals, much like me as a child, and is a super confident, intensely athletic and fearless child, most unlike me as a girl. She and some of her friends displayed some "mean girl" tendecies in preschool (yes, I was shocked) and it was definetly a power/control thing in the classroom. The boys were largely unaware or pawns in the girls' shenanigans. Luckily, I was very friendly with all the moms of the girls involved and we handled it as both a mom "group" and then individually with our daughters. Now, I can state with deep confidence that all but perhaps one of the mothers was never a mean girl herself, nor a queen bee type mother. The girls were not inheriting this tendecy nor observing it in their mothers' socializations, rather, they were very strong, smart, confident girls and were testing out their newfound independence and strength. They were justing doing it in a rather nasty way. What made it all work out was that all of the mothers addressed it as a whole.

I have noted that oftentimes, mothers who were "mean girls" themselves in school, often have some of the best advice and perspective when this comes out in their daughters. They usually learned their lesson in high-school or college when the tables were flipped on them. Much like the famous 1800s saying that "reformed Rakes make the best husbands" so do school day "mean girls" often make the best mothers of girls. I have found that women who are "mean girls" as grown-ups were rarely the queen bees as girls. Rather they observed or even were the victims of the type and decided to us it as grown-ups once they found themselves in a more "powerful" position. These moms are not going to breed inherently "mean girls" but are much less likely to discourage the behavior and may even encourage it in their daughters when it raises its ugly head. That I find to be the most dangerous type of adult woman and the most dangerous type of mean-girl.
Anonymous
The daughter of a colleague left Holton a few years ago due to mean girl behavior (she was the victim of it, not the mean girl). I think I recall that it was so bad she left mid year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Interesting point 11:47 -- I have noticed people on DCUM always talk about Darfur or something -- when they are plenty of needy people right in our own backyeard here.


Oh Jesus Christ! Get over yourself. If someone assists the needy it does not matter where that giving is done. Giving does not have to be done exclusively within US borders.
Anonymous
... (PP from above) You are not going to find they type more in one place than any other. Strong smart girls do not = "mean girls" and strong smart moms usually are quite effective at dealing with the behavior, whichever end their daughter is on. I would guess that if you want to figure out if a school has a large amount of drama within the student body, caused largely by mean girl related behavior, the key is to look at the female half of the parent body. Smart, savvy, women who have achieved some success or fulfillment in their own right are probably less likely to be queen-bee moms. Its the ones who have been frustrated by other aspects of their life that will turn to school politics as a way to control and intimidate. And, more importantly, if you find a good group of moms yourself, a group of moms who may be very diffrent in other ways, but all believe and encourage kindness and directness, you can all work to keep the girls in line and to relegate the queen bee mom to obscurity and prevent the phenomenon from starting with her daugter as well. Also, look at the academic (and, if you can find someone who knows, the social) history of the heads of the schools within the school, and of individual teachers, to help determine how the administration will handle it. It takes a team of strong women to teach the next generation and that is not hard to find in Washington. You really just have to be willing to reach out to the other moms and trust your gut.
Anonymous


Oh Jesus Christ! Get over yourself. If someone assists the needy it does not matter where that giving is done. Giving does not have to be done exclusively within US borders.

I wouldn't swear in the name of Jesus when it comes to helping someone. And, no kidding regarding your post.
Anonymous
St. albans has a lot of mean girls
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I have noted that oftentimes, mothers who were "mean girls" themselves in school, often have some of the best advice and perspective when this comes out in their daughters. They usually learned their lesson in high-school or college when the tables were flipped on them. Much like the famous 1800s saying that "reformed Rakes make the best husbands" so do school day "mean girls" often make the best mothers of girls. I have found that women who are "mean girls" as grown-ups were rarely the queen bees as girls. Rather they observed or even were the victims of the type and decided to us it as grown-ups once they found themselves in a more "powerful" position. These moms are not going to breed inherently "mean girls" but are much less likely to discourage the behavior and may even encourage it in their daughters when it raises its ugly head. That I find to be the most dangerous type of adult woman and the most dangerous type of mean-girl.


wow wow wow
You are one crazy person
Anonymous
pp-- I don't get why you think what they person wrote is crazy. It looks sane to me. Maybe you're the one who doesn't get it
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:St. albans has a lot of mean girls


?? mean GIRLS??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Oh Jesus Christ! Get over yourself. If someone assists the needy it does not matter where that giving is done. Giving does not have to be done exclusively within US borders.


I wouldn't swear in the name of Jesus when it comes to helping someone. And, no kidding regarding your post.

I think she was just invoking His assistance, LOL!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:St. albans has a lot of mean girls

Nice one. Funniest thing I've read here in a while!
Anonymous
You need to get out more pp.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If I get any whiff of my daughter being a mean girl she will be on the first flight to Africa or India to get some perspective and work in an orphanage or other such charitable effort.


Because she can't get some perspective right here?


Yes, point certainly taken. I guess Africa/India for dramatic underscoring. But very aware I need only go 10 miles from my home. Thanks. (sincerely).

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:... (PP from above) You are not going to find they type more in one place than any other. Strong smart girls do not = "mean girls" and strong smart moms usually are quite effective at dealing with the behavior, whichever end their daughter is on. I would guess that if you want to figure out if a school has a large amount of drama within the student body, caused largely by mean girl related behavior, the key is to look at the female half of the parent body. Smart, savvy, women who have achieved some success or fulfillment in their own right are probably less likely to be queen-bee moms. Its the ones who have been frustrated by other aspects of their life that will turn to school politics as a way to control and intimidate. And, more importantly, if you find a good group of moms yourself, a group of moms who may be very diffrent in other ways, but all believe and encourage kindness and directness, you can all work to keep the girls in line and to relegate the queen bee mom to obscurity and prevent the phenomenon from starting with her daugter as well. Also, look at the academic (and, if you can find someone who knows, the social) history of the heads of the schools within the school, and of individual teachers, to help determine how the administration will handle it. It takes a team of strong women to teach the next generation and that is not hard to find in Washington. You really just have to be willing to reach out to the other moms and trust your gut.


This resonates with me. Good advice. Thank you.
Anonymous


I have noted that oftentimes, mothers who were "mean girls" themselves in school, often have some of the best advice and perspective when this comes out in their daughters. They usually learned their lesson in high-school or college when the tables were flipped on them. Much like the famous 1800s saying that "reformed Rakes make the best husbands" so do school day "mean girls" often make the best mothers of girls. I have found that women who are "mean girls" as grown-ups were rarely the queen bees as girls. Rather they observed or even were the victims of the type and decided to us it as grown-ups once they found themselves in a more "powerful" position. These moms are not going to breed inherently "mean girls" but are much less likely to discourage the behavior and may even encourage it in their daughters when it raises its ugly head. That I find to be the most dangerous type of adult woman and the most dangerous type of mean-girl.



Really??? I mean really? This sounds like a 'mean girl': "I was mean in HS but now I am perfect, but the girls I used to pick on, well, they are mean now. I still know I am superior! " Hysterical.
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