VA in-state options for 3.4 u/w (3.8 w) GPA

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I'd say that GMU and MWC are reaches with a 3.4 UW. Longwood, CNU (may also be a reach), JMU, VT.


Huh?

OP, depending on major, she should be able to get into any school in VA except maybe UVA and W&M.

My DD graduated from an FCPS HS last year. The school doesn't even report an u/w GPA and we found that many colleges just use the weighted GPA "as is" for admission and scholarship consideration (this is confirmed in the "from the counselor" notes on Naviance for many schools). Assuming that your HS is the same, use the 3.8 when considering her chances for admission at the various VA publics, not the 3.4. Heck, my kid got into much better schools than GMU, MWC, Longwood and CNU with a WEIGHTED 3.4. This is DCUM and a lot of posters think a GPA under 4.5 is a sure sign of failure in life.


So FCPS weighted GPA us the number used for in state applications/admissions?!?


From the looks of Naviance, yes. But other districts may not. This is all noted in the school profile sent to all colleges. Colleges are used to getting both weighted and unweighted and adjust accordingly. It's not a big deal.


So if my high school sophomore has a 2.8 unweighted/3.0 weighted GPA after freshman year/5 honors courses in an FCPS high school, and is scoring As and Bs as a sophomore (3 honors courses) so far this year (possible 3.06 u/w and 3.3 weighted at end of sophomore year), so the best he can hope for after junior year (3 APs 1 honors) is 3.34 u/w and 3.67 weighted, are the in-state options limited to Radford and ODU due to the possible 3.34 u/w GPA? Or do we use the weighted GPA to look at in-state options, knowing other districts may not use weighted GPA?


Maybe consider the community college route instead?
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Anonymous wrote:I have to second the PP's comment about oddities with JMU/VT admissions. If anyone has any insight, I would be curious as to what is going on there. At DD's FCPS, everyone says its harder to get into JMU with the exception of VT/Engineering, abd that you need nearly 4.0. Is that true?


All these schools have Common Data Sets that have this information. Compare and contrast.


Please explain how to use Common Data Set statistics with Naviance to evaluate if JMU is an option or not for college admissions.

Here are the stats from Naviance from DS' FCPS high school.



Here are stats from the 2015-2016 Common Data Set for JMU:





source: http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/cds/2015/CDS2015_C.pdf

So does a student with a 3.4 unweighted GPA (as the OP of this thread stated) have a reasonable chance of admission to JMU? Or does a student, applying in Senior year, really need something closer to the "average" GPA of 3.87 (unweighted) as shown in Naviance?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to second the PP's comment about oddities with JMU/VT admissions. If anyone has any insight, I would be curious as to what is going on there. At DD's FCPS, everyone says its harder to get into JMU with the exception of VT/Engineering, abd that you need nearly 4.0. Is that true?


All these schools have Common Data Sets that have this information. Compare and contrast.


Please explain how to use Common Data Set statistics with Naviance to evaluate if JMU is an option or not for college admissions.

Here are the stats from Naviance from DS' FCPS high school.



Here are stats from the 2015-2016 Common Data Set for JMU:





source: http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/cds/2015/CDS2015_C.pdf

So does a student with a 3.4 unweighted GPA (as the OP of this thread stated) have a reasonable chance of admission to JMU? Or does a student, applying in Senior year, really need something closer to the "average" GPA of 3.87 (unweighted) as shown in Naviance?


Looks to me that a 3.4 and SATs above 1300 should get you in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to second the PP's comment about oddities with JMU/VT admissions. If anyone has any insight, I would be curious as to what is going on there. At DD's FCPS, everyone says its harder to get into JMU with the exception of VT/Engineering, abd that you need nearly 4.0. Is that true?


All these schools have Common Data Sets that have this information. Compare and contrast.


Please explain how to use Common Data Set statistics with Naviance to evaluate if JMU is an option or not for college admissions.

Here are the stats from Naviance from DS' FCPS high school.



Here are stats from the 2015-2016 Common Data Set for JMU:





source: http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/cds/2015/CDS2015_C.pdf

So does a student with a 3.4 unweighted GPA (as the OP of this thread stated) have a reasonable chance of admission to JMU? Or does a student, applying in Senior year, really need something closer to the "average" GPA of 3.87 (unweighted) as shown in Naviance?


Looks to me that a 3.4 and SATs above 1300 should get you in.


Thank you. Are you referring to an unweighted 3.4?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to second the PP's comment about oddities with JMU/VT admissions. If anyone has any insight, I would be curious as to what is going on there. At DD's FCPS, everyone says its harder to get into JMU with the exception of VT/Engineering, abd that you need nearly 4.0. Is that true?


All these schools have Common Data Sets that have this information. Compare and contrast.


Please explain how to use Common Data Set statistics with Naviance to evaluate if JMU is an option or not for college admissions.

Here are the stats from Naviance from DS' FCPS high school.



Here are stats from the 2015-2016 Common Data Set for JMU:





source: http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/cds/2015/CDS2015_C.pdf

So does a student with a 3.4 unweighted GPA (as the OP of this thread stated) have a reasonable chance of admission to JMU? Or does a student, applying in Senior year, really need something closer to the "average" GPA of 3.87 (unweighted) as shown in Naviance?


Looks to me that a 3.4 and SATs above 1300 should get you in.


Thank you. Are you referring to an unweighted 3.4?


Actually weighted, but looking at it, it's probably closer to a 3.5 weighted. For a 3.8 weighted (from OP) it looks like a decent acceptance rate starts around 1150 on the SAT.
Anonymous
^^Thank you!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Safety: CNU, UMW, ODU, GMU, VCU, RAD
Target: JMU and VT, voice a preference
Reach: UVA and WM

The safeties of CNU, UMW, GMU can be quirky. There's no earthy reason she should not get in, but they are watching "yield" and want to accept kids that will actually go and once in awhile may not accept a kids who they think will not enroll. Maybe to guard against that, apply to 2 Safeties. Also, again I believe it's a yield concern for the colleges, your DC may need to have the stomach for being on a waitlist for Targets and Reaches. It just takes time for the colleges to know how many will accept their offer of admission. Make sure the counselor knows DC's wants and preferences. Be very clear. Have DC be very clear in all communication.


Great advice!
Anonymous
Went to VA Tech Junior day this weekend. They indicated they had a very strong application can't pool this year and decisions just went out. Are people seeing the usual admit results??surprises? We like everything but the devotion to football. Really liked the price.
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Anonymous wrote:How about considering some out of state state schools? Some aren't any more expensive than in state.


Slippery Rock in PA

Maybe Ohio University in Athens, OH?

That's about it, I believe.


It looks like a good number of the PA state schools (similar to Slippery Rock) have similar tuition rates.
Anonymous
I'm a big fan of the Common Data Set. Glad that is being mentioned. All parents and their students should look it up and study it for information - - that and the Undergraduate Catalogue to know what each major requires concerning classes and gpa to be admitted to major. HOWEVER, looking at the Common Data Set is almost irrelevant coming from a Northern Virginia high school. ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHAT GPA IS TAKES TO GET IN FROM YOUR HIGH SCHOOL.
Anonymous
Yeah, I hate when people outside of NoVa quote published admission percentages for Va college. It means nothing if your from NoVa trying to get in.
Anonymous
"your" should have been "you're" of course .. typing too fast.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a big fan of the Common Data Set. Glad that is being mentioned. All parents and their students should look it up and study it for information - - that and the Undergraduate Catalogue to know what each major requires concerning classes and gpa to be admitted to major. HOWEVER, looking at the Common Data Set is almost irrelevant coming from a Northern Virginia high school. ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHAT GPA IS TAKES TO GET IN FROM YOUR HIGH SCHOOL.


Probably why the PP included the info from Naviance.
Anonymous
Is the unweighted/weighted GPA people use to determine if a college is a match vs. a reach the GPA at the end of Junior year? I read somewhere that the Naviance reported GPA is from Senior year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is the unweighted/weighted GPA people use to determine if a college is a match vs. a reach the GPA at the end of Junior year? I read somewhere that the Naviance reported GPA is from Senior year.


I assumed it was Senior year since that is when students report their acceptances and denials.
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