MAP scores.. is this weird?

Anonymous
So my 4th grade DC took MAP M today. Everyone in his class had big jumps in their scores. Like from 201(fall) to 234(winter), 211 (fall) to 238 (winter), etc. Their entire compact math class had huge jumps. Is this normal?
Anonymous
OP here.. before you ask how my kid knows this, the teacher was talking about it loudly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So my 4th grade DC took MAP M today. Everyone in his class had big jumps in their scores. Like from 201(fall) to 234(winter), 211 (fall) to 238 (winter), etc. Their entire compact math class had huge jumps. Is this normal?


201, 211 are low for 4th grade. How did they even get to compact math class?
Anonymous
The scores will go up over time but they will be the same percentile.
Anonymous
OP I wonder if our kids are at the same school. My child was also talking about everyone’s big jumps in scores, and naming the kid who had the biggest jump.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP I wonder if our kids are at the same school. My child was also talking about everyone’s big jumps in scores, and naming the kid who had the biggest jump.


Must be. It just seems weird to me for so many kids to have such big jumps.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The scores will go up over time but they will be the same percentile.


That is not true. 211 and 238 are not the same percentiles
Anonymous
That’s terrific! It would make sense that going through content faster in the 4/5 class would move them up a significant percentile.
Anonymous
Well now we have proof how everyone is 99th percentile.
Anonymous
My first grader had a 205 in the fall …
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My first grader had a 205 in the fall …


Your first grader took Map-P- a very basic test. Map-M starts in 3rd.

Yes, compacted students often have huge jumps as they are teaching extra material at a faster pace. Also, fall scores are often a dip from spring, so we often compare over a year and not just between two sessions. For example, one of my 5th grade students was at 231 in the spring, 220 in the fall, and 240 now in the winter. That’s not a 20 point jump even though that what it looks like if you just isolate the last two tests.
Anonymous
You should compare to 1 year ago, not to one season ago. 230ish is what 4th grade compacted should be.
So if those scores are accurate, it shows kids who weren't accelerating at home before this year, maybe had summer learning loss, but caught up quickly in the fall.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My first grader had a 205 in the fall …


Your first grader took Map-P- a very basic test. Map-M starts in 3rd.

Yes, compacted students often have huge jumps as they are teaching extra material at a faster pace. Also, fall scores are often a dip from spring, so we often compare over a year and not just between two sessions. For example, one of my 5th grade students was at 231 in the spring, 220 in the fall, and 240 now in the winter. That’s not a 20 point jump even though that what it looks like if you just isolate the last two tests.


The test scales are calibrated for a smooth transition between tests.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My first grader had a 205 in the fall …


Your first grader took Map-P- a very basic test. Map-M starts in 3rd.

Yes, compacted students often have huge jumps as they are teaching extra material at a faster pace. Also, fall scores are often a dip from spring, so we often compare over a year and not just between two sessions. For example, one of my 5th grade students was at 231 in the spring, 220 in the fall, and 240 now in the winter. That’s not a 20 point jump even though that what it looks like if you just isolate the last two tests.


The test scales are calibrated for a smooth transition between tests.


Are you actually boasting about a FIRST grader? You might need to add more things in your life. This is about a 4th grader with a specific question and not about your little snowflake.
Anonymous
Are you implying the teacher helped them cheat or what is the point of this?
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