Wake Forest, Emory, or Tulane

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Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any reason to go to Emory than the rankings. Telling.

Emory is a miserable place filled with geeks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It seems the Emory boosters want to argue endlessly what is the most prestigious school but can’t offer any other compelling reason to attend, which is quite sad.

Shouldn't need much else.when paying that much money, but it's in a Top 10 city, with plenty of internships and jobs, there's many other colleges around, it's ranked top 15 for many subjects like nursing, public health, business. It has the 2nd best placement in the southeast for finance etc...

Key word: “southeast”.

[Anonymous]

So clearly this Emory booster’s kid didn’t get into their Ivy apps and so PP is trying to convince themselves (and everyone else) that Emory is just as good. So much defensiveness. Emory is a GREAT school….if you want to live in Atlanta and spend your life in traffic and dodging bullets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

Is playing the rankings in this case accepting only people from the top of their HS class, keeping class sizes small, and having alumni love the school and giving money? Hiring teachers with the highest degree in their field? Ok, please “play”…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems the Emory boosters want to argue endlessly what is the most prestigious school but can’t offer any other compelling reason to attend, which is quite sad.

Shouldn't need much else.when paying that much money, but it's in a Top 10 city, with plenty of internships and jobs, there's many other colleges around, it's ranked top 15 for many subjects like nursing, public health, business. It has the 2nd best placement in the southeast for finance etc...

Key word: “southeast”.

There's heavy competition, Virginia is technically the south too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

Is playing the rankings in this case accepting only people from the top of their HS class, keeping class sizes small, and having alumni love the school and giving money? Hiring teachers with the highest degree in their field? Ok, please “play”…

You don’t think Ivy and legitimately top schools don’t have alumni giving, the absolute top kids in the class and top professors?

Let’s get real…I would say Tulane is where Ivy rejects go, but that offends Ivy rejects.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

Is playing the rankings in this case accepting only people from the top of their HS class, keeping class sizes small, and having alumni love the school and giving money? Hiring teachers with the highest degree in their field? Ok, please “play”…

You don’t think Ivy and legitimately top schools don’t have alumni giving, the absolute top kids in the class and top professors?

Let’s get real…I would say Tulane is where Ivy rejects go, but that offends Ivy rejects.

Why so down on Tulane? Clearly the PP wasn’t implying that Tulane had something over the Ivy League in these areas. She was just making some points about Tulane.

Btw DD a few years ago chose Tulane over Emory. Mostly because the cost ended up being much lower, but also she noticed a huge difference in the vibe at the two schools. No doubt Emory is a great school, but DD needed a more collaborative happy place to thrive. She has great relationships with professors in both of her majors at Tulane, is active in leadership in her sorority and has had great internship opportunities. So, choosing a school based on fit rather than rank worked out well for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Emory
2. Wake
3. Tulane

This unless the kid prefers one over the others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

Is playing the rankings in this case accepting only people from the top of their HS class, keeping class sizes small, and having alumni love the school and giving money? Hiring teachers with the highest degree in their field? Ok, please “play”…

You don’t think Ivy and legitimately top schools don’t have alumni giving, the absolute top kids in the class and top professors?

Let’s get real…I would say Tulane is where Ivy rejects go, but that offends Ivy rejects.

The opposite. Those things were taken OUT of consideration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

Is playing the rankings in this case accepting only people from the top of their HS class, keeping class sizes small, and having alumni love the school and giving money? Hiring teachers with the highest degree in their field? Ok, please “play”…

You don’t think Ivy and legitimately top schools don’t have alumni giving, the absolute top kids in the class and top professors?

Let’s get real…I would say Tulane is where Ivy rejects go, but that offends Ivy rejects.

Dartmouth dropped 6 places to #18. Many of these other schools have a lot of research happening with graduate students teaching classes and a lot more Pell grant recipients. If this ranking makes you feel great about Emory, which is a grim school to attend and is highly unrepresented outside of the Atlanta/Charlotte area, then enjoy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

Is playing the rankings in this case accepting only people from the top of their HS class, keeping class sizes small, and having alumni love the school and giving money? Hiring teachers with the highest degree in their field? Ok, please “play”…

You don’t think Ivy and legitimately top schools don’t have alumni giving, the absolute top kids in the class and top professors?

Let’s get real…I would say Tulane is where Ivy rejects go, but that offends Ivy rejects.

Dartmouth dropped 6 places to #18. Many of these other schools have a lot of research happening with graduate students teaching classes and a lot more Pell grant recipients. If this ranking makes you feel great about Emory, which is a grim school to attend and is highly unrepresented outside of the Atlanta/Charlotte area, then enjoy!

I know several Emory grads that loved their time there and work in NYC. How could it be grim?

There are probably too many kids from the Northeast (one might argue) at Emory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

Is playing the rankings in this case accepting only people from the top of their HS class, keeping class sizes small, and having alumni love the school and giving money? Hiring teachers with the highest degree in their field? Ok, please “play”…

You don’t think Ivy and legitimately top schools don’t have alumni giving, the absolute top kids in the class and top professors?

Let’s get real…I would say Tulane is where Ivy rejects go, but that offends Ivy rejects.

Dartmouth dropped 6 places to #18. Many of these other schools have a lot of research happening with graduate students teaching classes and a lot more Pell grant recipients. If this ranking makes you feel great about Emory, which is a grim school to attend and is highly unrepresented outside of the Atlanta/Charlotte area, then enjoy!

I know several Emory grads that loved their time there and work in NYC. How could it be grim?

There are probably too many kids from the Northeast (one might argue) at Emory.

Dp, just a low energy campus. On our tour, the tour guide said that everyone was proud of their nerdiness and highlight of week was the food truck day. GA Tech, which we visited same day, looked buzzing in comparison, which is really saying something . Lots of tik tok/youtube videos with unhappy current attendees. That said, there must be at least a few kids having fun, and the campus is pretty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake didn’t suddenly get “worse”. The variables changed. The school spent the past close to 30 years between 25 and 30 on the USNWR list. Small class sizes and not being taught by TAs are pretty important factors for many prospective students/families.

Then why did only like 3 schools see such dramatic falls? I think out of the top 100, the three that dropped the most were Wake, Tulane and W&M.

Are you telling us those are the only three schools that fit this criteria?

Not sure what you are talking about, nearly every private school moved down and nearly every public university went up.The new criteria favors large schools and schools with the most economic and ethnic diversity. Wake is neither of those things. And frankly, most people don’t think school quality depends on how many pell grant or first gen kids you have and their particular outcomes, but it is a huge factor in the current rankings.

Hmm…Emory, most Ivy schools, Stanford, JHU…didn’t go anywhere or went up.

Tulane was notorious for playing the rankings on the way up…now you are supposed to ignore the rankings on the way down?

Is playing the rankings in this case accepting only people from the top of their HS class, keeping class sizes small, and having alumni love the school and giving money? Hiring teachers with the highest degree in their field? Ok, please “play”…

You don’t think Ivy and legitimately top schools don’t have alumni giving, the absolute top kids in the class and top professors?

Let’s get real…I would say Tulane is where Ivy rejects go, but that offends Ivy rejects.

Why so down on Tulane? Clearly the PP wasn’t implying that Tulane had something over the Ivy League in these areas. She was just making some points about Tulane.

Btw DD a few years ago chose Tulane over Emory. Mostly because the cost ended up being much lower, but also she noticed a huge difference in the vibe at the two schools. No doubt Emory is a great school, but DD needed a more collaborative happy place to thrive. She has great relationships with professors in both of her majors at Tulane, is active in leadership in her sorority and has had great internship opportunities. So, choosing a school based on fit rather than rank worked out well for her.

NP. My DS is a freshman at Tulane and loves it. As you noted, the vibe is collaborative and friendly and he has enjoyed his classes and his professors. It's been a wonderful experience for him.