Question for Atheists

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Anonymous wrote:In the end, on your deathbed, will you hope that you are right about your atheism or hope that you are wrong?

That would be the last thing on my mind if I am dying.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

So let me get this straight- you hope that there is no afterlife and therefore no eventual reunion with loved ones who have already died?

You hope that ultimately there is no meaning to life and that good and evil are subjective and up to personal whims? You “hope” that there is no ultimate justice- that Hitler and Mother Theresa experience the same fate?

Because that’s what you’re saying.

I do not think there is anything for any of us after we die. But I accept that I do not know that for sure.

I would rather that there is no “ultimate justice” if the option is the justice of a God who says it doesn’t matter if you were Hitler or Mother Teresa - just that you believe that a guy that lived 2000 years ago rose from the dead. Because that means that the universe is controlled by a cosmic bully.

OP here. God it’s very clear that there is ultimate justice. That’s the whole point. To hope you’re right as an atheist means you have to be OK with the idea that there is NOT eternal justice and everyone ends up the same, no matter how they lived their life.

But the rules for ultimate justice as the Christians see it (even worse how some of the other monotheistic religions see it) is to accept Jesus, which has nothing to do with being a good person. I would rather by far that everyone ends up the same than the rules being determined by something so arbitrary.

How is it arbitrary when God himself says, “come to me” - or, don’t. Your choice.

How do you make a choice of what god to believe and using what rules? God has rules on how to “come to him”. Is it reasonable for any divine being to give you the power of reason and then to say “if you don’t suspend your reason, you will burn in hell for all eternity”. Or worse, to say “yes I know you are born to a Christian family who is lovely and lives a godly lifestyle. Unfortunately for you, the one true religion is Islam and so cannot achieve heaven.”

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Anonymous wrote:In the end, on your deathbed, will you hope that you are right about your atheism or hope that you are wrong?

Same could be said about you too.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

So let me get this straight- you hope that there is no afterlife and therefore no eventual reunion with loved ones who have already died?

You hope that ultimately there is no meaning to life and that good and evil are subjective and up to personal whims? You “hope” that there is no ultimate justice- that Hitler and Mother Theresa experience the same fate?

Because that’s what you’re saying.

I do not think there is anything for any of us after we die. But I accept that I do not know that for sure.

I would rather that there is no “ultimate justice” if the option is the justice of a God who says it doesn’t matter if you were Hitler or Mother Teresa - just that you believe that a guy that lived 2000 years ago rose from the dead. Because that means that the universe is controlled by a cosmic bully.

OP here. God it’s very clear that there is ultimate justice. That’s the whole point. To hope you’re right as an atheist means you have to be OK with the idea that there is NOT eternal justice and everyone ends up the same, no matter how they lived their life.

But the rules for ultimate justice as the Christians see it (even worse how some of the other monotheistic religions see it) is to accept Jesus, which has nothing to do with being a good person. I would rather by far that everyone ends up the same than the rules being determined by something so arbitrary.

How is it arbitrary when God himself says, “come to me” - or, don’t. Your choice.

When did he say that, exactly? And to whom?

Jesus says this many times. Matthew 4:19 for example. Come, follow me.

So on your deathbed do you worry that you picked the wrong religion and the Jews were right after all and the messiah hasn’t yet come?

Or perhaps that the Hindus are right and you are going to be trapped in a cycle of rebirth because you focused on “accepting Jesus” rather than trying to maximize your good deeds (karma)?

Or do you hope that you will go at peace with yourself and your choices in this life? Because that is my hope for both me and for you.

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Sounds like you’ve rejected the teachings of the Qur’an, OP. Hope you like it hot.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, do you ask believers if they “hope” they are wrong? I think I’m right — in fact, I would say I know I am — so it doesn’t make much sense to ask if I hope I’m wrong.

But if one insists, I would actually say I fervently hope to be right in my atheism. To learn with certainty that there is a god who has chosen to unleash such suffering so capriciously on so many of his flock, like children who die terrible deaths of cancer or malnourishment, would be so morally devastating to me. A god who could stop suffering but chose not to, for whatever reason, would be a level of disappointment and disgust that I hope not to face.

As for what god will “do to me” for not believing, if given the chance I would simply remind him that my non-belief came from the very mental faculties with which he chose to endow me. It would have been disrespectful not to follow my brain and my observations where they led me, so if he wants to punish that while rewarding those Pascal’s Wager people who “knew better” but callously decided to pretend to believe because they thought it might pay out like a lottery ticket, that would be yet another example of his wickedness.

This.

Ditto

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Anonymous wrote:The most bigoted person I have every met is my church going neighbor. We used to be friends till she bashed gay people and people of other races. But she loves her bible study and church. Awful.

+1 million. The most harmful, unloving, hurtful people I know are a family of evangelical christians that shunned their own son because he was severely depressed and not "working to his full potential". He was 21. They kicked him out, didn't allow any contact with him for 2 years. And this is only one example of the beliefs fundamentalist/evangelicals can hold. Their moral compass is broken

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Anonymous wrote:The most bigoted person I have every met is my church going neighbor. We used to be friends till she bashed gay people and people of other races. But she loves her bible study and church. Awful.

+1 million. The most harmful, unloving, hurtful people I know are a family of evangelical christians that shunned their own son because he was severely depressed and not "working to his full potential". He was 21. They kicked him out, didn't allow any contact with him for 2 years. And this is only one example of the beliefs fundamentalist/evangelicals can hold. Their moral compass is broken

The person who did huge harm to our family did it out of justification she was Catholic/Christian and it was her calling. Ironic a doctor as well.

Being religious doesn't make you a good person, it's just a justification for your behavior. Being a good person is about your life choices and how you treat others and conduct yourself. I would think if there is a God, how you conduct yourself and how you treat others is equally if not more important than anything.

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Anonymous wrote:The most bigoted person I have every met is my church going neighbor. We used to be friends till she bashed gay people and people of other races. But she loves her bible study and church. Awful.

+1 million. The most harmful, unloving, hurtful people I know are a family of evangelical christians that shunned their own son because he was severely depressed and not "working to his full potential". He was 21. They kicked him out, didn't allow any contact with him for 2 years. And this is only one example of the beliefs fundamentalist/evangelicals can hold. Their moral compass is broken

The person who did huge harm to our family did it out of justification she was Catholic/Christian and it was her calling. Ironic a doctor as well.

Being religious doesn't make you a good person, it's just a justification for your behavior. Being a good person is about your life choices and how you treat others and conduct yourself. I would think if there is a God, how you conduct yourself and how you treat others is equally if not more important than anything.

I'm the PP you quoted. I agree. This family also justifies their shunning and other horrific beliefs by their very literal interpretation of one version of the bible and their by saying that it's the "loving" thing to do to someone who is not obeying their lord. They told me "unconditional love is wrong. We need to be judged to be more christ like and get closer to god". It's sick. Like I said, their moral compass is broken.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

So let me get this straight- you hope that there is no afterlife and therefore no eventual reunion with loved ones who have already died?

You hope that ultimately there is no meaning to life and that good and evil are subjective and up to personal whims? You “hope” that there is no ultimate justice- that Hitler and Mother Theresa experience the same fate?

Because that’s what you’re saying.

I do not think there is anything for any of us after we die. But I accept that I do not know that for sure.

I would rather that there is no “ultimate justice” if the option is the justice of a God who says it doesn’t matter if you were Hitler or Mother Teresa - just that you believe that a guy that lived 2000 years ago rose from the dead. Because that means that the universe is controlled by a cosmic bully.

OP here. God it’s very clear that there is ultimate justice. That’s the whole point. To hope you’re right as an atheist means you have to be OK with the idea that there is NOT eternal justice and everyone ends up the same, no matter how they lived their life.

But the rules for ultimate justice as the Christians see it (even worse how some of the other monotheistic religions see it) is to accept Jesus, which has nothing to do with being a good person. I would rather by far that everyone ends up the same than the rules being determined by something so arbitrary.

How is it arbitrary when God himself says, “come to me” - or, don’t. Your choice.

When did he say that, exactly? And to whom?

Jesus says this many times. Matthew 4:19 for example. Come, follow me.

haha, you left out the part of that verse where Jesus says "I'll make you a fisher of people." In other words, proselytize and try to convert them. Doesn't sound at all like he was saying "or don't"). Try again

There are many examples. Matthew 11:28. John 14:6

Jesus was God himself in the flesh, calling all of us to Him.

How do you know this? How can you determine that it is true and all other bronze age myth books are false?

Because Jesus is alive.

Look at it this way. Have you ever heard anyone say, “You know, my life was turned around because of Bronze Age mythology.” Or, “I have a peace that passes all understanding, thanks to my faith in the gods of the Bronze Age.”

That doesn’t answer the question of: how can you determine this particular myth is true?

? Myths aren't true. If they were true, they wouldn't be myths.

You think this is a clever response? It is not.

You really don't understand the question? Or are you just avoiding a question you have no answer to whatsoever?

I think it is the latter.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

So let me get this straight- you hope that there is no afterlife and therefore no eventual reunion with loved ones who have already died?

You hope that ultimately there is no meaning to life and that good and evil are subjective and up to personal whims? You “hope” that there is no ultimate justice- that Hitler and Mother Theresa experience the same fate?

Because that’s what you’re saying.

I do not think there is anything for any of us after we die. But I accept that I do not know that for sure.

I would rather that there is no “ultimate justice” if the option is the justice of a God who says it doesn’t matter if you were Hitler or Mother Teresa - just that you believe that a guy that lived 2000 years ago rose from the dead. Because that means that the universe is controlled by a cosmic bully.

OP here. God it’s very clear that there is ultimate justice. That’s the whole point. To hope you’re right as an atheist means you have to be OK with the idea that there is NOT eternal justice and everyone ends up the same, no matter how they lived their life.

But the rules for ultimate justice as the Christians see it (even worse how some of the other monotheistic religions see it) is to accept Jesus, which has nothing to do with being a good person. I would rather by far that everyone ends up the same than the rules being determined by something so arbitrary.

How is it arbitrary when God himself says, “come to me” - or, don’t. Your choice.

When did he say that, exactly? And to whom?

Jesus says this many times. Matthew 4:19 for example. Come, follow me.

haha, you left out the part of that verse where Jesus says "I'll make you a fisher of people." In other words, proselytize and try to convert them. Doesn't sound at all like he was saying "or don't"). Try again

There are many examples. Matthew 11:28. John 14:6

Jesus was God himself in the flesh, calling all of us to Him.

How do you know this? How can you determine that it is true and all other bronze age myth books are false?

Because Jesus is alive.

Look at it this way. Have you ever heard anyone say, “You know, my life was turned around because of Bronze Age mythology.” Or, “I have a peace that passes all understanding, thanks to my faith in the gods of the Bronze Age.”

That doesn’t answer the question of: how can you determine this particular myth is true?

? Myths aren't true. If they were true, they wouldn't be myths.

You think this is a clever response? It is not.

You really don't understand the question? Or are you just avoiding a question you have no answer to whatsoever?

I think it is the latter.

?? At least be logical. That pp you asked can't tell you if "this myth is true." Obviously if it's a myth it isn't true. If it's true, it isn't a myth. You could ask if the comments attributed to Jesus in Matthew can be proven to have been uttered by him, but of course we know that can't be proven because none of the authors of the gospels were there at the time. Atheist myself, but at least play fair.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

So let me get this straight- you hope that there is no afterlife and therefore no eventual reunion with loved ones who have already died?

You hope that ultimately there is no meaning to life and that good and evil are subjective and up to personal whims? You “hope” that there is no ultimate justice- that Hitler and Mother Theresa experience the same fate?

Because that’s what you’re saying.

I do not think there is anything for any of us after we die. But I accept that I do not know that for sure.

I would rather that there is no “ultimate justice” if the option is the justice of a God who says it doesn’t matter if you were Hitler or Mother Teresa - just that you believe that a guy that lived 2000 years ago rose from the dead. Because that means that the universe is controlled by a cosmic bully.

OP here. God it’s very clear that there is ultimate justice. That’s the whole point. To hope you’re right as an atheist means you have to be OK with the idea that there is NOT eternal justice and everyone ends up the same, no matter how they lived their life.

But the rules for ultimate justice as the Christians see it (even worse how some of the other monotheistic religions see it) is to accept Jesus, which has nothing to do with being a good person. I would rather by far that everyone ends up the same than the rules being determined by something so arbitrary.

How is it arbitrary when God himself says, “come to me” - or, don’t. Your choice.

When did he say that, exactly? And to whom?

Jesus says this many times. Matthew 4:19 for example. Come, follow me.

haha, you left out the part of that verse where Jesus says "I'll make you a fisher of people." In other words, proselytize and try to convert them. Doesn't sound at all like he was saying "or don't"). Try again

There are many examples. Matthew 11:28. John 14:6

Jesus was God himself in the flesh, calling all of us to Him.

How do you know this? How can you determine that it is true and all other bronze age myth books are false?

Because Jesus is alive.

Look at it this way. Have you ever heard anyone say, “You know, my life was turned around because of Bronze Age mythology.” Or, “I have a peace that passes all understanding, thanks to my faith in the gods of the Bronze Age.”

That doesn’t answer the question of: how can you determine this particular myth is true?

? Myths aren't true. If they were true, they wouldn't be myths.

You think this is a clever response? It is not.

You really don't understand the question? Or are you just avoiding a question you have no answer to whatsoever?

I think it is the latter.

?? At least be logical. That pp you asked can't tell you if "this myth is true." Obviously if it's a myth it isn't true. If it's true, it isn't a myth. You could ask if the comments attributed to Jesus in Matthew can be proven to have been uttered by him, but of course we know that can't be proven because none of the authors of the gospels were there at the time. Atheist myself, but at least play fair.

No, you're just wrong, it's not as simple as you would like it to be to fit your narrative and avoid the actual question.

Myths can, and often, have some truth behind them. King Arthur, great floods, Jesus, Jesse James and more all possibly/likely have some historical truth.

https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-10-historical-myths-that-turned-out-to-be-true/the-golden-fleece

This is separate from the fact that I was clearly speaking in vernacular and everyone, including you, knew what was meant: Is this a myth or is this true and not a myth. But you grab on to a petulant strawman to avoid answering the question.

Because you can't answer the question. Because it is likely myth.

So answer the question or leave it the f alone. Your BS is exhausting.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

So let me get this straight- you hope that there is no afterlife and therefore no eventual reunion with loved ones who have already died?

You hope that ultimately there is no meaning to life and that good and evil are subjective and up to personal whims? You “hope” that there is no ultimate justice- that Hitler and Mother Theresa experience the same fate?

Because that’s what you’re saying.

I do not think there is anything for any of us after we die. But I accept that I do not know that for sure.

I would rather that there is no “ultimate justice” if the option is the justice of a God who says it doesn’t matter if you were Hitler or Mother Teresa - just that you believe that a guy that lived 2000 years ago rose from the dead. Because that means that the universe is controlled by a cosmic bully.

OP here. God it’s very clear that there is ultimate justice. That’s the whole point. To hope you’re right as an atheist means you have to be OK with the idea that there is NOT eternal justice and everyone ends up the same, no matter how they lived their life.

But the rules for ultimate justice as the Christians see it (even worse how some of the other monotheistic religions see it) is to accept Jesus, which has nothing to do with being a good person. I would rather by far that everyone ends up the same than the rules being determined by something so arbitrary.

How is it arbitrary when God himself says, “come to me” - or, don’t. Your choice.

When did he say that, exactly? And to whom?

Jesus says this many times. Matthew 4:19 for example. Come, follow me.

haha, you left out the part of that verse where Jesus says "I'll make you a fisher of people." In other words, proselytize and try to convert them. Doesn't sound at all like he was saying "or don't"). Try again

There are many examples. Matthew 11:28. John 14:6

Jesus was God himself in the flesh, calling all of us to Him.

How do you know this? How can you determine that it is true and all other bronze age myth books are false?

Because Jesus is alive.

Look at it this way. Have you ever heard anyone say, “You know, my life was turned around because of Bronze Age mythology.” Or, “I have a peace that passes all understanding, thanks to my faith in the gods of the Bronze Age.”

That doesn’t answer the question of: how can you determine this particular myth is true?

? Myths aren't true. If they were true, they wouldn't be myths.

You think this is a clever response? It is not.

You really don't understand the question? Or are you just avoiding a question you have no answer to whatsoever?

I think it is the latter.

?? At least be logical. That pp you asked can't tell you if "this myth is true." Obviously if it's a myth it isn't true. If it's true, it isn't a myth. You could ask if the comments attributed to Jesus in Matthew can be proven to have been uttered by him, but of course we know that can't be proven because none of the authors of the gospels were there at the time. Atheist myself, but at least play fair.

No, you're just wrong, it's not as simple as you would like it to be to fit your narrative and avoid the actual question.

Myths can, and often, have some truth behind them. King Arthur, great floods, Jesus, Jesse James and more all possibly/likely have some historical truth.

https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-10-historical-myths-that-turned-out-to-be-true/the-golden-fleece

This is separate from the fact that I was clearly speaking in vernacular and everyone, including you, knew what was meant: Is this a myth or is this true and not a myth. But you grab on to a petulant strawman to avoid answering the question.

Because you can't answer the question. Because it is likely myth.

So answer the question or leave it the f alone. Your BS is exhausting.

well, be careful there. We had a big kerfuffle around here awhile back, and threads were locked and deleted, when people were calling religion a "myth."
Maybe you weren't around here then. Some took offense and reported it. I'd never call the stories in the gospel a myth

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

So let me get this straight- you hope that there is no afterlife and therefore no eventual reunion with loved ones who have already died?

You hope that ultimately there is no meaning to life and that good and evil are subjective and up to personal whims? You “hope” that there is no ultimate justice- that Hitler and Mother Theresa experience the same fate?

Because that’s what you’re saying.

I do not think there is anything for any of us after we die. But I accept that I do not know that for sure.

I would rather that there is no “ultimate justice” if the option is the justice of a God who says it doesn’t matter if you were Hitler or Mother Teresa - just that you believe that a guy that lived 2000 years ago rose from the dead. Because that means that the universe is controlled by a cosmic bully.

OP here. God it’s very clear that there is ultimate justice. That’s the whole point. To hope you’re right as an atheist means you have to be OK with the idea that there is NOT eternal justice and everyone ends up the same, no matter how they lived their life.

But the rules for ultimate justice as the Christians see it (even worse how some of the other monotheistic religions see it) is to accept Jesus, which has nothing to do with being a good person. I would rather by far that everyone ends up the same than the rules being determined by something so arbitrary.

How is it arbitrary when God himself says, “come to me” - or, don’t. Your choice.

When did he say that, exactly? And to whom?

Jesus says this many times. Matthew 4:19 for example. Come, follow me.

haha, you left out the part of that verse where Jesus says "I'll make you a fisher of people." In other words, proselytize and try to convert them. Doesn't sound at all like he was saying "or don't"). Try again

There are many examples. Matthew 11:28. John 14:6

Jesus was God himself in the flesh, calling all of us to Him.

How do you know this? How can you determine that it is true and all other bronze age myth books are false?

Because Jesus is alive.

Look at it this way. Have you ever heard anyone say, “You know, my life was turned around because of Bronze Age mythology.” Or, “I have a peace that passes all understanding, thanks to my faith in the gods of the Bronze Age.”

That doesn’t answer the question of: how can you determine this particular myth is true?

? Myths aren't true. If they were true, they wouldn't be myths.

You think this is a clever response? It is not.

You really don't understand the question? Or are you just avoiding a question you have no answer to whatsoever?

I think it is the latter.

?? At least be logical. That pp you asked can't tell you if "this myth is true." Obviously if it's a myth it isn't true. If it's true, it isn't a myth. You could ask if the comments attributed to Jesus in Matthew can be proven to have been uttered by him, but of course we know that can't be proven because none of the authors of the gospels were there at the time. Atheist myself, but at least play fair.

No, you're just wrong, it's not as simple as you would like it to be to fit your narrative and avoid the actual question.

Myths can, and often, have some truth behind them. King Arthur, great floods, Jesus, Jesse James and more all possibly/likely have some historical truth.

https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-10-historical-myths-that-turned-out-to-be-true/the-golden-fleece

This is separate from the fact that I was clearly speaking in vernacular and everyone, including you, knew what was meant: Is this a myth or is this true and not a myth. But you grab on to a petulant strawman to avoid answering the question.

Because you can't answer the question. Because it is likely myth.

So answer the question or leave it the f alone. Your BS is exhausting.

well, be careful there. We had a big kerfuffle around here awhile back, and threads were locked and deleted, when people were calling religion a "myth."
Maybe you weren't around here then. Some took offense and reported it. I'd never call the stories in the gospel a myth

Would you call stories of Odin & Valhalla a myth?

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of sick f*** tortures people, forces suffering, famine, molestation and other hardships. Just to say "na na, you didnt believe in me, off to hell with you, byeeeeeeee"?

Lol I'm relieved that I don't believe in such nonsense.

An all-powerful being simply wanting to f~~~ with people out of boredom seems a lot more plausible than many other aspects of christianity lore.

Realistically, if there were some sort of alien overlord, it's much more likely that they'd toy with us for their own pleasure rather than do all this magic stuff christians believe. We are the ants in the ant farm.