Question for Atheists

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Once you are dead, you’re dead. I’m not overly fearful so I don’t need some fantasy story to ease anxiety.

I wrote the next post after this one without even having read this one. Out thoughts crossed. I'm 99.9% sure this is true, and so what if it isn't? The accounts I've read of what heaven is like makes it sound pretty unappealing anyway.

And what accounts are those? The only person who has been to heaven and back to earth is Jesus. Have you read accounts of heaven from his words in the Bible?

Fake news.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Once you are dead, you’re dead. I’m not overly fearful so I don’t need some fantasy story to ease anxiety.

I wrote the next post after this one without even having read this one. Out thoughts crossed. I'm 99.9% sure this is true, and so what if it isn't? The accounts I've read of what heaven is like makes it sound pretty unappealing anyway.

And what accounts are those? The only person who has been to heaven and back to earth is Jesus. Have you read accounts of heaven from his words in the Bible?

Yes, actually I have. And no human being has ever ascended bodily into heaven and come back to tell about it. And tell me exactly how Matthew, Mark and Luke could possibly have known this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think about it at all and don't care. Do birds and cats and dogs think about this stuff when they're close to death? No, because there's nothing for them to think about.

Do I think it would be lovely for there to be an afterlife with everything you want? Of course. But I highly doubt it. I don't think there's a hell, either. What kind of god created us to be pawns in his game? That's demented.

I don't use heaven/hell as my incentive to be a decent human. I'm a decent human because it matters in THIS life - which to me is all we have. And it counts, now.

Animals do not have souls like humans do. They have no capacity to reason or even to love/ hate in the way that humans do.

God did not create hell. Man did that himself, by turning from God.

Fake news. Humans are animals. And emote similarly to other primates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the end, on your deathbed, will you hope that you are right about your atheism or hope that you are wrong?

Nonsense question. Atheism is simply a lack of belief.

Will you wonder if you were “wrong” about Valhalla on your deathbed, OP?

Oh no! Was I wrong about Hades?

[Anonymous]

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I’ve yet to meet an atheist IRL who hopes that s/he is wrong. So I’m asking here.

That probably describes someone who’s agnostic rather than atheist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Once you are dead, you’re dead. I’m not overly fearful so I don’t need some fantasy story to ease anxiety.

I wrote the next post after this one without even having read this one. Out thoughts crossed. I'm 99.9% sure this is true, and so what if it isn't? The accounts I've read of what heaven is like makes it sound pretty unappealing anyway.

Yes, heaven sounds deadly dull.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think about it at all and don't care. Do birds and cats and dogs think about this stuff when they're close to death? No, because there's nothing for them to think about.

Do I think it would be lovely for there to be an afterlife with everything you want? Of course. But I highly doubt it. I don't think there's a hell, either. What kind of god created us to be pawns in his game? That's demented.

I don't use heaven/hell as my incentive to be a decent human. I'm a decent human because it matters in THIS life - which to me is all we have. And it counts, now.

Animals do not have souls like humans do. They have no capacity to reason or even to love/ hate in the way that humans do.

God did not create hell. Man did that himself, by turning from God.

1) What is a soul? What proof do you have that humans have souls, but animals do not?

2) I would disagree on the whole love/hate/reason thing. Many humans display a pround lack of reason, indifference to love and hate.

3) God is not the creator of everything then? Are humans a form of god, if they can create such significant things as hell?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the end, on your deathbed, will you hope that you are right about your atheism or hope that you are wrong?

Nonsense question. Atheism is simply a lack of belief.

Will you wonder if you were “wrong” about Valhalla on your deathbed, OP?

Actually it’s not. If you don’t believe in God, you believe in something else- most likely yourself and your own virtue.

So believers only believe in god, not themself or their own virtue? They’re mutually exclusive?

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A Christian believer knows that s/he is a sinner who cannot save himself. Trust me, you don’t want me believing in my own virtue, nor do I want to believe in yours. Anyone with a modicum of self - reflection knows how dark the human heart and soul can be.

[Anonymous]

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I’ve yet to meet an atheist IRL who hopes that s/he is wrong. So I’m asking here.

That probably describes someone who’s agnostic rather than atheist.

Most atheists are also agnostic. Ask one.

[Anonymous]

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I’ve yet to meet an atheist IRL who hopes that s/he is wrong. So I’m asking here.

That probably describes someone who’s agnostic rather than atheist.

Most atheists are also agnostic. Ask one.

Exactly. Which, to OPs question, indicates that they are just hoping that they are right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the end, on your deathbed, will you hope that you are right about your atheism or hope that you are wrong?

Nonsense question. Atheism is simply a lack of belief.

Will you wonder if you were “wrong” about Valhalla on your deathbed, OP?

Actually it’s not. If you don’t believe in God, you believe in something else- most likely yourself and your own virtue.

So believers only believe in god, not themself or their own virtue? They’re mutually exclusive?

.

A Christian believer knows that s/he is a sinner who cannot save himself. Trust me, you don’t want me believing in my own virtue, nor do I want to believe in yours. Anyone with a modicum of self - reflection knows how dark the human heart and soul can be.

There are some very dark people out there, but they're ill. It's not the lack of religion/god that's led them down that path. If the only thing stopping you from being a crappy human is your religion, then your core is already pretty dark in its innate natural state. Not everyone is like that. Plenty of us are decent as our innate and default state.

[Anonymous]

I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the end, on your deathbed, will you hope that you are right about your atheism or hope that you are wrong?

Nonsense question. Atheism is simply a lack of belief.

Will you wonder if you were “wrong” about Valhalla on your deathbed, OP?

Actually it’s not. If you don’t believe in God, you believe in something else- most likely yourself and your own virtue.

So believers only believe in god, not themself or their own virtue? They’re mutually exclusive?

.

A Christian believer knows that s/he is a sinner who cannot save himself. Trust me, you don’t want me believing in my own virtue, nor do I want to believe in yours. Anyone with a modicum of self - reflection knows how dark the human heart and soul can be.

There are some very dark people out there, but they're ill. It's not the lack of religion/god that's led them down that path. If the only thing stopping you from being a crappy human is your religion, then your core is already pretty dark in its innate natural state. Not everyone is like that. Plenty of us are decent as our innate and default state.

Nope. Sorry. It doesn’t work that way. Humans are born selfish and self seeking above all else. Why do you think we have to be trained and socialized, hopefully by good parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Why would I hope I'm wrong? Because of the thought of an afterlife? The thought of absolutely nothing happening with my soul after I die is very comforting to me. Way more than the thought of going to heaven. So yes, I suppose I hope I'm right.

So let me get this straight- you hope that there is no afterlife and therefore no eventual reunion with loved ones who have already died?

You hope that ultimately there is no meaning to life and that good and evil are subjective and up to personal whims? You “hope” that there is no ultimate justice- that Hitler and Mother Theresa experience the same fate?

Because that’s what you’re saying.

[Anonymous]

I'm not even going to think about it. that's like saying on your deathbed do you hope you were right that when you die you aren't going to turn into a unicorn and fly to the moon.