I'm not a Swiftie but I generally enjoy Taylor's music. I couldn't even get through this whole album. I thought it was boring, honestly. |
There were pages of posts about how her success if driven by her talent alone. People truly believe she has the greatest success because she is the greatest talent. No idea what pages it was but it went on a for a few pages with people denying it is her team and her brand that has led to her success and that is all just based on pure talent. She has more success than other musicians because she has more talent. |
I know, can you believe that people don't understand DCUM is a Taylor Swift fan site and opinions that even mildly criticize her or even just try to contextualize her within the broader culture aren't allowed? Sycophancy only, everyone knows this-- obviously a 55 page thread on an artist will simply be filled with positive reviews and compliments, with no disagreements or other discussion. /sarcasm |
You realize it’s just an opinion right? That she is successful is a fact. People can quibble over what percentage is talent, marketing, branding and all the other factors but there’s not an exact formula. If there was it would be easily repeated. |
People don’t have to agree with your dissension. That’s how this all works. If you can’t stand it feel free to find another place to argue. |
I don't think people are expecting agreement, just voicing opinions. You all are the ones saying it's somehow wrong or unfair or off topic to compare Swift to other musicians are discuss what people don't like about her music in this thread. I don't even dislike Swift-- I like several songs on this album and find her impressive generally. But I get do bored with the insistance by some fans that she must not be criticized. Everyone can be criticized. Critical comments are on topic. Engage or ignore, but it's childish to throw a fit over the fact that people are taking time to write reasoned criticisms. That's well within bounds. |
Oh, but have you ever been affected by dark, deep and hidden longing? I have, and those feelings surrounding impossible love can last a looong, looong time and are so hard to get over. I wouldn’t be surprised if Matty is still in love with her but has chosen to keep his distance for both of their sakes and careers. It would be the ultimate sign of love actually. Because the alternative is the shit storm the sanctimonious fans and media created last spring, and that was going to end badly. So if you love someone deeply and it will either just end now or end badly later, you choose the easier way out at the expense of your heart. Ask me how I know. |
Lol yeah when I was a teenager |
...that is her music. |
No, those are just the only songs you know or care anything about because you want to use them as some sort of proof that nobody should like her or her music. |
Oh ok currently over 100 pages of relationship chat about her but uhh her music is Soo much more than that. Apparently. Lol. |
Woops I meant over 400. |
You understand a DCUM thread does not define who she actually is, right? Especially considering 95% of the people posting on threads about her on this forum openly do not know anything about her music and base all their opinions on their perception of her as someone who just has bad relationships. |
It's like you need her to possess depths that she doesn't have to justify all the time spent focused on her. |
I love how So Long, London starts, remind me of the creepy music at my Catholic Church or all the mobster movies that always have creepy catholic music. I like all the allusions ... Sisyphus... drilling the safe.... but I especially love the line "how much sad did you think I had" I love Peter's obvious allusion to Peter pan syndrome and he is the leader of lost boys. I love the line promises ocean deep but never to keep. |