Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

[Anonymous]

This Ukraine conflict has been the perfect situation for Russia to figure out NATO gear in a manageable way. Not sure who thought feeding small amounts of gear into the war at irregular intervals was a good idea, but the results are predictable.

The latest victim is the Abrams https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a

Add this to the JDAM-ER, GLSDB, and Storm Shadows among other lesser systems.

Good thing NATO still has its manufacturing capability to replace all these "solved" weapons systems, right?

[Anonymous]

I doubt the Russians will attack Europe. If you know your history, he's doing the same thing he did in Georgia when they were making ovetures to NATO in 2008. Putin said if you do that I will take half your territory (the parts with Russian sympathies and ethnic Russians) and he did exactly that. Now years later, Ukraine comes along and Putin warns the same thing and does the exact same thing, with those areas with Russian sympathies + warm water ports. If you know your Russian history, for literally 1000 years the Russians want to have buffer states between themselves and the rest of Europe.

You can read it on wikipedia, but you rarely hear the US talking heads make mention of Putin doing the same thing in 2008.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This Ukraine conflict has been the perfect situation for Russia to figure out NATO gear in a manageable way. Not sure who thought feeding small amounts of gear into the war at irregular intervals was a good idea, but the results are predictable.

The latest victim is the Abrams https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a

Add this to the JDAM-ER, GLSDB, and Storm Shadows among other lesser systems.

Good thing NATO still has its manufacturing capability to replace all these "solved" weapons systems, right?

Good thing none of those are current gen weapons the US would use against a peer adversary. Most of that stuff you listed is 3-4 generations behind.

We are learning more about their defenses and countermeasures than they are from our antiquated tech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt the Russians will attack Europe. If you know your history, he's doing the same thing he did in Georgia when they were making ovetures to NATO in 2008. Putin said if you do that I will take half your territory (the parts with Russian sympathies and ethnic Russians) and he did exactly that. Now years later, Ukraine comes along and Putin warns the same thing and does the exact same thing, with those areas with Russian sympathies + warm water ports. If you know your Russian history, for literally 1000 years the Russians want to have buffer states between themselves and the rest of Europe.

You can read it on wikipedia, but you rarely hear the US talking heads make mention of Putin doing the same thing in 2008.

Well, Russia clearly misjudged there. Since the invasion of Ukraine, NATO has expanded to include Sweden and Finland, which has an 800 mile border with Russia. Kind of a costly miscalculation, not to mention losing 400,000 soldiers, much of the Black Sea fleet, and more than half their military hardware. I suspect Russia won't be pursuing any additional three day Special Military Operations for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This Ukraine conflict has been the perfect situation for Russia to figure out NATO gear in a manageable way. Not sure who thought feeding small amounts of gear into the war at irregular intervals was a good idea, but the results are predictable.

The latest victim is the Abrams https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a

Add this to the JDAM-ER, GLSDB, and Storm Shadows among other lesser systems.

Good thing NATO still has its manufacturing capability to replace all these "solved" weapons systems, right?

Good thing none of those are current gen weapons the US would use against a peer adversary. Most of that stuff you listed is 3-4 generations behind.

We are learning more about their defenses and countermeasures than they are from our antiquated tech.

Anything GPS targeted seems to be largely neutralized, add the Excalibur round to the list:

Increasingly, what is left that may work are incredibly expensive and in short supply. And if Ukraine and the neo-cons get their way, Russia will get to solve those on the cheap too.

The real question is whether the US defense industry can adapt quickly, because you can guarantee Russia is sharing this information with other countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This Ukraine conflict has been the perfect situation for Russia to figure out NATO gear in a manageable way. Not sure who thought feeding small amounts of gear into the war at irregular intervals was a good idea, but the results are predictable.

The latest victim is the Abrams https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a

Add this to the JDAM-ER, GLSDB, and Storm Shadows among other lesser systems.

Good thing NATO still has its manufacturing capability to replace all these "solved" weapons systems, right?

Good thing none of those are current gen weapons the US would use against a peer adversary. Most of that stuff you listed is 3-4 generations behind.

We are learning more about their defenses and countermeasures than they are from our antiquated tech.

Anything GPS targeted seems to be largely neutralized, add the Excalibur round to the list:

Increasingly, what is left that may work are incredibly expensive and in short supply. And if Ukraine and the neo-cons get their way, Russia will get to solve those on the cheap too.

The real question is whether the US defense industry can adapt quickly, because you can guarantee Russia is sharing this information with other countries.

Blocking GPS signals is relatively easy since they are so weak. This vulnerability is well known. You just need broadband noise in the same frequency spectrum as the GPS signals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This Ukraine conflict has been the perfect situation for Russia to figure out NATO gear in a manageable way. Not sure who thought feeding small amounts of gear into the war at irregular intervals was a good idea, but the results are predictable.

The latest victim is the Abrams https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a

Add this to the JDAM-ER, GLSDB, and Storm Shadows among other lesser systems.

Good thing NATO still has its manufacturing capability to replace all these "solved" weapons systems, right?

Good thing none of those are current gen weapons the US would use against a peer adversary. Most of that stuff you listed is 3-4 generations behind.

We are learning more about their defenses and countermeasures than they are from our antiquated tech.

Anything GPS targeted seems to be largely neutralized, add the Excalibur round to the list:

Increasingly, what is left that may work are incredibly expensive and in short supply. And if Ukraine and the neo-cons get their way, Russia will get to solve those on the cheap too.

The real question is whether the US defense industry can adapt quickly, because you can guarantee Russia is sharing this information with other countries.

So all those weapon and system we give Israel never Find there way to Russia? lol

[Anonymous]

Once again, the tech you are seeing deployed in Israel and Ukraine is nothing compared to current generation. We are getting rid of old stockpiles and purchasing more of the current/next gen weapons systems. The sky is not falling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once again, the tech you are seeing deployed in Israel and Ukraine is nothing compared to current generation. We are getting rid of old stockpiles and purchasing more of the current/next gen weapons systems. The sky is not falling.

We're getting rid of tried and true systems that exist in greater quantity and hoping a small number of whiz bang systems can win wars. While shrinking our military and letting defense contractors consolidate.

We should really be turning down the rhetoric, rather than trying to pick fights on three fronts at once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once again, the tech you are seeing deployed in Israel and Ukraine is nothing compared to current generation. We are getting rid of old stockpiles and purchasing more of the current/next gen weapons systems. The sky is not falling.

Is that why Zelensky is a failure? We aren’t gifting him our good stuff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, the tech you are seeing deployed in Israel and Ukraine is nothing compared to current generation. We are getting rid of old stockpiles and purchasing more of the current/next gen weapons systems. The sky is not falling.

We're getting rid of tried and true systems that exist in greater quantity and hoping a small number of whiz bang systems can win wars. While shrinking our military and letting defense contractors consolidate.

We should really be turning down the rhetoric, rather than trying to pick fights on three fronts at once.

Tried and true? These are stockpile systems that have been sitting in depots for ages. We have enough next gen weapons systems to wipe any near peer threat off the face of the earth in the blink of an eye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, the tech you are seeing deployed in Israel and Ukraine is nothing compared to current generation. We are getting rid of old stockpiles and purchasing more of the current/next gen weapons systems. The sky is not falling.

We're getting rid of tried and true systems that exist in greater quantity and hoping a small number of whiz bang systems can win wars. While shrinking our military and letting defense contractors consolidate.

We should really be turning down the rhetoric, rather than trying to pick fights on three fronts at once.

Tried and true? These are stockpile systems that have been sitting in depots for ages. We have enough next gen weapons systems to wipe any near peer threat off the face of the earth in the blink of an eye.

Such as?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, the tech you are seeing deployed in Israel and Ukraine is nothing compared to current generation. We are getting rid of old stockpiles and purchasing more of the current/next gen weapons systems. The sky is not falling.

Is that why Zelensky is a failure? We aren’t gifting him our good stuff?

We are not giving them our cutting edge stuff, we are giving them plenty of our good stuff. Our good stuff is being decimated by cheap drones and remarkably agile and creative Russian soldiers.

Zelenskyy is losing because he is a corrupt politician sending his people like lamb to the slaughter. Ukraine does not have enough soldiers to win this, no matter what technology they get now. The average Ukrainian knows they are being sacrificed so US can weaken Russia. It’s tragic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, the tech you are seeing deployed in Israel and Ukraine is nothing compared to current generation. We are getting rid of old stockpiles and purchasing more of the current/next gen weapons systems. The sky is not falling.

Is that why Zelensky is a failure? We aren’t gifting him our good stuff?

We are not giving them our cutting edge stuff, we are giving them plenty of our good stuff. Our good stuff is being decimated by cheap drones and remarkably agile and creative Russian soldiers.

Zelenskyy is losing because he is a corrupt politician sending his people like lamb to the slaughter. Ukraine does not have enough soldiers to win this, no matter what technology they get now. The average Ukrainian knows they are being sacrificed so US can weaken Russia. It’s tragic.

They are fighting because Russia invaded.
The end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, the tech you are seeing deployed in Israel and Ukraine is nothing compared to current generation. We are getting rid of old stockpiles and purchasing more of the current/next gen weapons systems. The sky is not falling.

Is that why Zelensky is a failure? We aren’t gifting him our good stuff?

We are not giving them our cutting edge stuff, we are giving them plenty of our good stuff. Our good stuff is being decimated by cheap drones and remarkably agile and creative Russian soldiers.

Zelenskyy is losing because he is a corrupt politician sending his people like lamb to the slaughter. Ukraine does not have enough soldiers to win this, no matter what technology they get now. The average Ukrainian knows they are being sacrificed so US can weaken Russia. It’s tragic.

Depopulation is the goal.