Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous
Please, seek help.
Anonymous
https://www.rt.com/russia/595266-ukraine-west-pushed-russia/

Good read about how Russia has been reorienting itself in a non-western way.

"It is important to note that the Russian elites, which since the 1990s have been closely tied to the West, have had to make a hard choice recently between their country and their assets. Those who decided to stay have had to become more “national” in their outlook and action. Meanwhile, Putin has launched a campaign to form a new elite around the Ukraine war veterans. The expected turnover of Russian elites, and the transformation from a cosmopolitan group of self-serving individuals into a more traditional coterie of privileged servants of the state and its leader would make sure that the foreign policy revolution is complete."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine what happens tomorrow when the bill passes. Who will Putin blame for failure? Oh, that's right.

If I was a SVR noc in the US, I'd be sweating pure vodka out of my sweet pitoot tonight. Stopping that Ukraine aide bill must've been their #1 top priority.

Hope Boris and Natasha made their deals with the FBI, by now? No telling what happens when they're "recalled to Moscow."


The bill hasn't even passed, but the war-shill funding has been completely restored already. It really was quiet when you guys were without funding.


Ahem. You were saying? When it rains, it pours.

"Ukraine war latest: US secretly provides Ukraine with 100 ATACMS; Denmark announces additional military aid for Kyiv"

Of course the long walks in the woods won't happen right away. Like Prigozhin, it may take a few months until their guard is down.

"Poland 'ready' to host NATO members’ nuclear weapons to counter Russia, president says"

Isn't this the Russian SVR's responsibility to make sure this doesn't happen? Seems as if the SVR is failing a lot these days.

How does Putin reward failure again? Do tell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine what happens tomorrow when the bill passes. Who will Putin blame for failure? Oh, that's right.

If I was a SVR noc in the US, I'd be sweating pure vodka out of my sweet pitoot tonight. Stopping that Ukraine aide bill must've been their #1 top priority.

Hope Boris and Natasha made their deals with the FBI, by now? No telling what happens when they're "recalled to Moscow."


The bill hasn't even passed, but the war-shill funding has been completely restored already. It really was quiet when you guys were without funding.


Ahem. You were saying? When it rains, it pours.

"Ukraine war latest: US secretly provides Ukraine with 100 ATACMS; Denmark announces additional military aid for Kyiv"

Of course the long walks in the woods won't happen right away. Like Prigozhin, it may take a few months until their guard is down.

"Poland 'ready' to host NATO members’ nuclear weapons to counter Russia, president says"

Isn't this the Russian SVR's responsibility to make sure this doesn't happen? Seems as if the SVR is failing a lot these days.

How does Putin reward failure again? Do tell.


It really is interesting how some aid was provided before the bill, and other aid was staged and ready to go. Almost like voting on matters of war is just to placate the rubes?
Anonymous
Russia is b#tt F#cking Ukraine right now.

We are laundering billions of borrowed money from China to the military industrial complex.
Anonymous
We spend on weapons, our children's education falters. Sad.
Anonymous
We knew this in general, but Putin offered Ukraine a pretty favorable deal in Istanbul. German paper Welt reported the details and RT translates: https://www.rt.com/russia/596659-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022/

"According to Welt, Ukraine would have committed to “permanent neutrality,” would have agreed not to allow foreign weapons and troops into the country, and would have pledged not to “receive, produce or acquire” nuclear weapons. Kiev would also reportedly have guaranteed not to hold military drills with other countries.

In return, Russia would have pledged not to attack Ukraine again, while agreeing that Kiev could receive security guarantees from the US, UK, France, and China. If Ukraine came under attack, its guarantors would support its right to self-defense within three days, with the relevant agreements being ratified by each participating state, making them legally binding.

Welt also claimed that the treaty had excluded Russia’s Crimean Peninsula, as well as parts of Donbass, from any security guarantees granted to Ukraine."

Ukraine chose to roll the iron dice instead and look what it got them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We knew this in general, but Putin offered Ukraine a pretty favorable deal in Istanbul. German paper Welt reported the details and RT translates: https://www.rt.com/russia/596659-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022/

"According to Welt, Ukraine would have committed to “permanent neutrality,” would have agreed not to allow foreign weapons and troops into the country, and would have pledged not to “receive, produce or acquire” nuclear weapons. Kiev would also reportedly have guaranteed not to hold military drills with other countries.

In return, Russia would have pledged not to attack Ukraine again, while agreeing that Kiev could receive security guarantees from the US, UK, France, and China. If Ukraine came under attack, its guarantors would support its right to self-defense within three days, with the relevant agreements being ratified by each participating state, making them legally binding.

Welt also claimed that the treaty had excluded Russia’s Crimean Peninsula, as well as parts of Donbass, from any security guarantees granted to Ukraine."

Ukraine chose to roll the iron dice instead and look what it got them.


They really should have gone with this agreement. I hate seeing so much death on both sides.

The only winners of this are the defense contractors in the US.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We knew this in general, but Putin offered Ukraine a pretty favorable deal in Istanbul. German paper Welt reported the details and RT translates: https://www.rt.com/russia/596659-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022/

"According to Welt, Ukraine would have committed to “permanent neutrality,” would have agreed not to allow foreign weapons and troops into the country, and would have pledged not to “receive, produce or acquire” nuclear weapons. Kiev would also reportedly have guaranteed not to hold military drills with other countries.

In return, Russia would have pledged not to attack Ukraine again, while agreeing that Kiev could receive security guarantees from the US, UK, France, and China. If Ukraine came under attack, its guarantors would support its right to self-defense within three days, with the relevant agreements being ratified by each participating state, making them legally binding.

Welt also claimed that the treaty had excluded Russia’s Crimean Peninsula, as well as parts of Donbass, from any security guarantees granted to Ukraine."

Ukraine chose to roll the iron dice instead and look what it got them.


They really should have gone with this agreement. I hate seeing so much death on both sides.

The only winners of this are the defense contractors in the US.


Oh, yes. Putin, the former KGB spy, is well-known for telling the truth and making stand-up promises like the SALT agreements. Yup.

Back to the important stuff. This is one clip you all need to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4slwRGL-icc

The first 2/3rds is a rant by Alexei Zhuravlyov who's finally coming to grips with the fact that Russia can't achieve a decisive military victory since it's unable to amass sufficient troop strength. I've never seen him this unhinged before. Something must be happening in the background?

The last 1/3 of the video is an interesting exchange about nuclear war with Skabeeva implying that Russia has deployed strategic nuclear weapons in countries other than Russia?

It's an interesting statement to make.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We knew this in general, but Putin offered Ukraine a pretty favorable deal in Istanbul. German paper Welt reported the details and RT translates: https://www.rt.com/russia/596659-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022/

"According to Welt, Ukraine would have committed to “permanent neutrality,” would have agreed not to allow foreign weapons and troops into the country, and would have pledged not to “receive, produce or acquire” nuclear weapons. Kiev would also reportedly have guaranteed not to hold military drills with other countries.

In return, Russia would have pledged not to attack Ukraine again, while agreeing that Kiev could receive security guarantees from the US, UK, France, and China. If Ukraine came under attack, its guarantors would support its right to self-defense within three days, with the relevant agreements being ratified by each participating state, making them legally binding.

Welt also claimed that the treaty had excluded Russia’s Crimean Peninsula, as well as parts of Donbass, from any security guarantees granted to Ukraine."

Ukraine chose to roll the iron dice instead and look what it got them.


They really should have gone with this agreement. I hate seeing so much death on both sides.

The only winners of this are the defense contractors in the US.


Oh, yes. Putin, the former KGB spy, is well-known for telling the truth and making stand-up promises like the SALT agreements. Yup.

Back to the important stuff. This is one clip you all need to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4slwRGL-icc

The first 2/3rds is a rant by Alexei Zhuravlyov who's finally coming to grips with the fact that Russia can't achieve a decisive military victory since it's unable to amass sufficient troop strength. I've never seen him this unhinged before. Something must be happening in the background?

The last 1/3 of the video is an interesting exchange about nuclear war with Skabeeva implying that Russia has deployed strategic nuclear weapons in countries other than Russia?

It's an interesting statement to make.


lol like the west is so known for its integrity? Okay.

Better a bad peace than a good war.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We knew this in general, but Putin offered Ukraine a pretty favorable deal in Istanbul. German paper Welt reported the details and RT translates: https://www.rt.com/russia/596659-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022/

"According to Welt, Ukraine would have committed to “permanent neutrality,” would have agreed not to allow foreign weapons and troops into the country, and would have pledged not to “receive, produce or acquire” nuclear weapons. Kiev would also reportedly have guaranteed not to hold military drills with other countries.

In return, Russia would have pledged not to attack Ukraine again, while agreeing that Kiev could receive security guarantees from the US, UK, France, and China. If Ukraine came under attack, its guarantors would support its right to self-defense within three days, with the relevant agreements being ratified by each participating state, making them legally binding.

Welt also claimed that the treaty had excluded Russia’s Crimean Peninsula, as well as parts of Donbass, from any security guarantees granted to Ukraine."

Ukraine chose to roll the iron dice instead and look what it got them.


They really should have gone with this agreement. I hate seeing so much death on both sides.

The only winners of this are the defense contractors in the US.


Oh, yes. Putin, the former KGB spy, is well-known for telling the truth and making stand-up promises like the SALT agreements. Yup.

Back to the important stuff. This is one clip you all need to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4slwRGL-icc

The first 2/3rds is a rant by Alexei Zhuravlyov who's finally coming to grips with the fact that Russia can't achieve a decisive military victory since it's unable to amass sufficient troop strength. I've never seen him this unhinged before. Something must be happening in the background?

The last 1/3 of the video is an interesting exchange about nuclear war with Skabeeva implying that Russia has deployed strategic nuclear weapons in countries other than Russia?

It's an interesting statement to make.


lol like the west is so known for its integrity? Okay.

Better a bad peace than a good war.


Not when RT announces every week how Ukraine will be cleansed once it's subjugated. Here's a playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4z9bHLDFJg&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo7bpdyPlWscpvx2O8qSu0T1

The Ukrainians know this. For them, it's better to die fighting than surrender.

But believe whatever you'd like. I'm watching the clock. I think it's 14 months to go.

You think Russia is going to 'win'? I'm curious. What do you think?

Anonymous
How much of Ukraine have international investors acquired so far?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We knew this in general, but Putin offered Ukraine a pretty favorable deal in Istanbul. German paper Welt reported the details and RT translates: https://www.rt.com/russia/596659-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022/

"According to Welt, Ukraine would have committed to “permanent neutrality,” would have agreed not to allow foreign weapons and troops into the country, and would have pledged not to “receive, produce or acquire” nuclear weapons. Kiev would also reportedly have guaranteed not to hold military drills with other countries.

In return, Russia would have pledged not to attack Ukraine again, while agreeing that Kiev could receive security guarantees from the US, UK, France, and China. If Ukraine came under attack, its guarantors would support its right to self-defense within three days, with the relevant agreements being ratified by each participating state, making them legally binding.

Welt also claimed that the treaty had excluded Russia’s Crimean Peninsula, as well as parts of Donbass, from any security guarantees granted to Ukraine."

Ukraine chose to roll the iron dice instead and look what it got them.


They really should have gone with this agreement. I hate seeing so much death on both sides.

The only winners of this are the defense contractors in the US.


Oh, yes. Putin, the former KGB spy, is well-known for telling the truth and making stand-up promises like the SALT agreements. Yup.

Back to the important stuff. This is one clip you all need to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4slwRGL-icc

The first 2/3rds is a rant by Alexei Zhuravlyov who's finally coming to grips with the fact that Russia can't achieve a decisive military victory since it's unable to amass sufficient troop strength. I've never seen him this unhinged before. Something must be happening in the background?

The last 1/3 of the video is an interesting exchange about nuclear war with Skabeeva implying that Russia has deployed strategic nuclear weapons in countries other than Russia?

It's an interesting statement to make.


lol like the west is so known for its integrity? Okay.

Better a bad peace than a good war.


Not when RT announces every week how Ukraine will be cleansed once it's subjugated. Here's a playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4z9bHLDFJg&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo7bpdyPlWscpvx2O8qSu0T1

The Ukrainians know this. For them, it's better to die fighting than surrender.

But believe whatever you'd like. I'm watching the clock. I think it's 14 months to go.

You think Russia is going to 'win'? I'm curious. What do you think?



If Ukrainians really preferred fighting, there wouldn’t be a very public price list to get out of getting mobilized.
Anonymous
When Afghanistan ended the military industrial complex needed Ukraine.

The founding fathers really had no clue how capitalism work destroy their project.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When Afghanistan ended the military industrial complex needed Ukraine.

The founding fathers really had no clue how capitalism work destroy their project.


How ironic you would bring up Afghanistan to argue the merits of Marxism.
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