Does DACA and open immigration = leaders giving up on urban & flyover USA?

[Anonymous]

Essentially our leaders, both political and multi-nationals, don't believe urban and flyover masses have no potential for upward mobility. Their theory is we have to bring in a new wave of immigrants who have more ambition and hunger to succeed?

Money and resources aren't infinite--any dollar we spend on immigrants is a dollar we're not spending on new schools, training, scholarships, etc. in/for urban & flyover Americans. There's a genuine media, political, and multi national obsession in this country with immigration, but zero obsession with urban or flyover America, outside of perhaps gun violence in inner-cities.

[Anonymous]

Your underlying premise is wrong.

[Anonymous]

I got a great idea. Let's spend billions on educating lots of youn motivated talent and then deport them!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I got a great idea. Let's spend billions on educating lots of youn motivated talent and then deport them!

If they're so educated and motivated, wouldn't Mexico and Central America be clamoring to repatriate them? Instead I saw the former president of Mexico was lobbying for them to stay in the US. Seemed weird, to me.

If I was Mexican potus, and these are talented American-educated youth, I'd propose housing stipend and relocation expenses, etc. Something bold.

[Anonymous]

DACA is not open immigration. And no, of course our government is not giving up on "flyover country". Most of them are from there. I am, too.

[Anonymous]

We broke our lower and working classes so we decided to import new ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DACA is not open immigration. And no, of course our government is not giving up on "flyover country". Most of them are from there. I am, too.

Thread is about DACA *and* immigration. Every dollar dedicated to newcomers is a dollar not spent the 80-100M here struggling for generations. I think our leaders are giving up on this people. They truly believe they're hopeless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DACA is not open immigration. And no, of course our government is not giving up on "flyover country". Most of them are from there. I am, too.

Thread is about DACA *and* immigration. Every dollar dedicated to newcomers is a dollar not spent the 80-100M here struggling for generations. I think our leaders are giving up on this people. They truly believe they're hopeless.

Why would Abbott think they're hopeless? He doesn't.

Are you in flyover country? Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DACA is not open immigration. And no, of course our government is not giving up on "flyover country". Most of them are from there. I am, too.

Thread is about DACA *and* immigration. Every dollar dedicated to newcomers is a dollar not spent the 80-100M here struggling for generations. I think our leaders are giving up on this people. They truly believe they're hopeless.

I am from flyover country. No one gave up on us. A bunch of us did start taking an obscene amount of drugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DACA is not open immigration. And no, of course our government is not giving up on "flyover country". Most of them are from there. I am, too.

Thread is about DACA *and* immigration. Every dollar dedicated to newcomers is a dollar not spent the 80-100M here struggling for generations. I think our leaders are giving up on this people. They truly believe they're hopeless.

Why would Abbott think they're hopeless? He doesn't.

Are you in flyover country? Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about.

Adding, I think Abbott is a criminal and an idiot. But I don't think he's as dumb as you seem to think he is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DACA is not open immigration. And no, of course our government is not giving up on "flyover country". Most of them are from there. I am, too.

Thread is about DACA *and* immigration. Every dollar dedicated to newcomers is a dollar not spent the 80-100M here struggling for generations. I think our leaders are giving up on this people. They truly believe they're hopeless.

I am from flyover country. No one gave up on us. A bunch of us did start taking an obscene amount of drugs.

Is that you, JD Vance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DACA is not open immigration. And no, of course our government is not giving up on "flyover country". Most of them are from there. I am, too.

Thread is about DACA *and* immigration. Every dollar dedicated to newcomers is a dollar not spent the 80-100M here struggling for generations. I think our leaders are giving up on this people. They truly believe they're hopeless.

I am from flyover country. No one gave up on us. A bunch of us did start taking an obscene amount of drugs.

Is that you, JD Vance?

God I hate that guy. Such a poseur. And obviously looking to run for office. He sucks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We broke our lower and working classes so we decided to import new ones.

It's a new debtor class. That's all. Bankers want millions of immigrants to load up on consumer debt, keep the bubble perpetually expanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We broke our lower and working classes so we decided to import new ones.

It's a new debtor class. That's all. Bankers want millions of immigrants to load up on consumer debt, keep the bubble perpetually expanding.

Omg. Yeah, that actually makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Essentially our leaders, both political and multi-nationals, don't believe urban and flyover masses have no potential for upward mobility. Their theory is we have to bring in a new wave of immigrants who have more ambition and hunger to succeed?

Money and resources aren't infinite--any dollar we spend on immigrants is a dollar we're not spending on new schools, training, scholarships, etc. in/for urban & flyover Americans. There's a genuine media, political, and multi national obsession in this country with immigration, but zero obsession with urban or flyover America, outside of perhaps gun violence in inner-cities.

Do you mean "leaders don't believe urban and flyover masses have any potential"?

If I understand your premise correctly, you're about 60-75 years too late with your concern about investment in human capital. When women and minorities started into and up within the workforce, around WWII, the priority shifted from finding and training the best and brightest to maintaining middle and lower classes. The bottleneck on upward mobility has been squeezing shut for decades.

Schools, training, scholarships, etc. cost money and public funds have gone from a trickle to a dribble to a slow drip. But you should really be looking at leaders at state and local levels - especially in flyover states (koff koff - especially red states) where education hovers near the bottom of spending priorities. Look at how hostile our culture is to teachers. Any wonder the quality of teaching is so low?