Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you made unnecessarily awkward. People are allowed to meet up without you. If you had just been friendly and not made an issue of it, you might have been invited to the next one.
mom-clique mom has entered the group chat.
you might have been invited to the next one.
Jr. high all over again.
Seems very Jr high to be offended and send a snarky text. Normal person would have waved, said hi, moved on.
This.
Normal person would have invited OP to join in the fun with the table of people.
Don’t you remember why op was there in the first place? She had a meeting.
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you made unnecessarily awkward. People are allowed to meet up without you. If you had just been friendly and not made an issue of it, you might have been invited to the next one.
mom-clique mom has entered the group chat.
you might have been invited to the next one.
Jr. high all over again.
Seems very Jr high to be offended and send a snarky text. Normal person would have waved, said hi, moved on.
This.
Normal person would have invited OP to join in the fun with the table of people.
Normal people would assume OP had other plans…she wasn’t just free range at a winery on a Friday.
Anonymous wrote:The mean girl pta vibe is heavy handed here. The defensive posture in favor of this group and antagonistic approach to op is wild.
+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.
Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited
It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.
+10000
It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.
Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?
If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.
If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?
If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.
That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.
If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.
This scenario exists only in your head.
I am sure, given the viciousness of the thread, that it happens to anyone who is individual enough to stop walking on eggshells around the Queen Bees of their friend group.
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you made unnecessarily awkward. People are allowed to meet up without you. If you had just been friendly and not made an issue of it, you might have been invited to the next one.
mom-clique mom has entered the group chat.
you might have been invited to the next one.
Jr. high all over again.
Seems very Jr high to be offended and send a snarky text. Normal person would have waved, said hi, moved on.
This.
Normal person would have invited OP to join in the fun with the table of people.
Normal people would assume OP had other plans…she wasn’t just free range at a winery on a Friday.
Anonymous wrote:The mean girl pta vibe is heavy handed here. The defensive posture in favor of this group and antagonistic approach to op is wild.
+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.
Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited
It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.
+10000
It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.
Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?
If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.
If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?
If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.
That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.
If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.
This scenario exists only in your head.
I am sure, given the viciousness of the thread, that it happens to anyone who is individual enough to stop walking on eggshells around the Queen Bees of their friend group.
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you made unnecessarily awkward. People are allowed to meet up without you. If you had just been friendly and not made an issue of it, you might have been invited to the next one.
mom-clique mom has entered the group chat.
you might have been invited to the next one.
Jr. high all over again.
Seems very Jr high to be offended and send a snarky text. Normal person would have waved, said hi, moved on.
This.
Normal person would have invited OP to join in the fun with the table of people.
Normal people would assume OP had other plans…she wasn’t just free range at a winery on a Friday.
Explain?
Like if you and your friends were at a restaurant having lunch, and a mom you know also walked in…wouldn’t you assume she had lunch plans with someone else and couldn’t join you?
Anonymous wrote:Is this a private school, by any chance, OP?
OP—No. Fringe rural LCPS.
Is it your belief that if those other 2 families in your neighborhood ever do anything , even an activity that perhaps neither organized but were invited to, that they must include you?
How many knots are you going to twist yourself into to be "right" that OP is "wrong" about this?
You are so married to the idea that it is NEVER okay for a woman to feel left out or excluded, that when a woman says she felt that way, you are going to tear it apart until she admits she's the one in the wrong.
Why do you think you are like this? Why is it so hard for you to just think "yeah, I can see how that might have been uncomfortable for you"?
You’re weirdly worked up about one person’s comment. Take a break from the thread if you’re taking it that personally.
Nope, not worked up, just baffled by the commitment to the idea that OP is unreasonable here. I've never been in OP's exact position but I get why it was awkward and weird and didn't immediately jump to the conclusion she is overreacting.
Well, you seem oddly invested in the idea that these women went out of their way to exclude OP because she, along with many other schools parents, wasn’t invited. OP never did say if she was planning to invite every one of these women to the event she is planning at the same winery.
I never said I thought that these women went out of their way to exclude OP. I think probably it was either an accident (a text chain about the gathering and the people who might have invited OP either forgot to include her or were added to the group late enough that they didn't invite anyone) or maybe this is how OP found out that she wasn't as close to these particular women (meaning the group from her neighborhood she is actually friends with) as she thought.
I just agree that the incident would be kind of awkward and believe OP that it felt awkward in the moment. And I don't think it's weird she felt that way, as I can imagine a similar situation where I would also feel awkward. That's all. I don't think it was some giant conspiracy to exclude OP, but she *was* excluded (whether simply by accident or maybe a bit more purposefully, but probably not maliciously) and it's reasonable that she would feel the sting of that when it happened.
I think the people who are calling OP crazy or delusional or acting like it's totally unreasonable to feel as she did are protesting a little too much. You can empathize with OP without casting the other women involved as vicious mean girls.
But the incident wasn’t awkward and there was no need for anyone to feel awkward. No one did anything wrong.
She could have handled it like bumping into someone at the grocery store because this is essentially what this is. She happened to see a couple friends out doing something that didn’t concern her. A smile and wave is a normal response. Why be weird about it?
No, you are the one projecting facts onto this. OP said it was awkward, but you asserts it was not. She was there, you were not. She describes it as being normal at first when it was 4 or 5 women, but then a bunch more arrived and it became awkward. This makes sense to me, that as more women arrived it became increasingly weird that they were all getting together and OP didn't know anything about it. That is what OP describes and thus that is what I assume happened. Why are you so convinced her perception of this incident is incorrect? You weren't there so her word is all we have.
I'm not inventing any facts and just going on what OP is saying, I can empathize. You are imposing your own baggage onto it because you are determined to prove that OP misinterpreted a situation about which you only have OP's description. Why? You're tilting at windmills here and I don't get it.
NP. But…why would it be awkward for *people she’s not friends with* to get together without her? She doesn’t even know like 80% of the women there.
This. It is objectively not awkward to be excluded from a group of people you barely know. Add in the fact she seems gleeful about sending a follow up snark text and the resulting bus stop drama sounds like textbook BPD. I don’t take OP as a very reliable narrator.
This comment makes no sense. She knew about a third of the group reasonably well. It doesn't sound like the others were strangers, either, because otherwise how would she recognize them? If it was just two friends and then a bunch of total strangers, I would assume my friends were hanging out with the ladies from their barre class. But OP knew it was a group of moms from the school, likely because she knew 5 of them and had met the other 10.
The whole "these weren't her friends, they were strangers" narrative is something being pushed on OP but it's not what she said at all.
Not PP, but she is only actual friends with 2 of the 15. It’s insane to me that if I saw 2 friends, 3 acquaintances, and 10 women I didn’t know at all out to lunch together, that that would count as me being singled out and excluded.
OP here—I live in a small subdivision maybe 15 houses. Most of the moms (except for one) are moms from my kids classes. There was one mom that was not, but I know her as well. We had coffee together a couple of times.
Why are you trickling out information like this? You never said the moms’ kids were in the same classes as your kids.
NP, but I'm guessing it's because when OP posted the thread, her explicit goal was to solicit experiences from other moms who had experienced being left out of "cliques" and the like (I agree with people who don't think this was a clique but I do know what it's like to feel left out of a mom group so whatever).
It's only because a bizarrely obsessive group of posters started viciously ripping OP to shreds, putting words in her mouth, and accusing her of being delusional and unreasonable, that she has offered some additional detail. I don't think OP meant to make this an moratorium on her experience (which no one on this thread knows the nuanced details of but her), it just became that because some posters are weirdly obsessed with it. I don't know why, as we will never actually know enough to know if OP was "right" in feeling excluded. It might not even be knowable because we'd have to know the intentions and decisions of all 15 women. We don't. We won't. Let it go.
I just reread the first few pages, and I’m not seeing anything vicious. Maybe a little snarky and rude, but that’s the norm here. On the other side, we have posters calling the 15 anonymous women “b-witches,” “alcoholics” and “drinkers” simply for having the gall to get together, but I guess you’re ok with that.
This! OP attempted to stir up some sexist drama by accusing a group of female friends of being in the wrong simply for getting together in a group on a Friday afternoon and cattily requesting other posters share their “mom clique” stories. You don’t see dads getting ripped on like this for organizing an activity with a group of men and not inviting every person they know who may like to be included.
These 15 women did nothing wrong. They get together at a winery on a Friday afternoon and are being accused of being drunks, lazy SAHMs, exclusive b-itches, etc.
Sorry, but OP’s little tirade is very selfish and anti woman. Those women owe her nothing after getting shamed and guilted by her just for enjoying their Friday with friends. OP is gross.
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you made unnecessarily awkward. People are allowed to meet up without you. If you had just been friendly and not made an issue of it, you might have been invited to the next one.
mom-clique mom has entered the group chat.
you might have been invited to the next one.
Jr. high all over again.
Seems very Jr high to be offended and send a snarky text. Normal person would have waved, said hi, moved on.
This.
Normal person would have invited OP to join in the fun with the table of people.
Normal people would assume OP had other plans…she wasn’t just free range at a winery on a Friday.
Well she was there to plan a party which she never said included these 15 people or not.
Anonymous wrote:Is this a private school, by any chance, OP?
OP—No. Fringe rural LCPS.
Is it your belief that if those other 2 families in your neighborhood ever do anything , even an activity that perhaps neither organized but were invited to, that they must include you?
How many knots are you going to twist yourself into to be "right" that OP is "wrong" about this?
You are so married to the idea that it is NEVER okay for a woman to feel left out or excluded, that when a woman says she felt that way, you are going to tear it apart until she admits she's the one in the wrong.
Why do you think you are like this? Why is it so hard for you to just think "yeah, I can see how that might have been uncomfortable for you"?
You’re weirdly worked up about one person’s comment. Take a break from the thread if you’re taking it that personally.
Nope, not worked up, just baffled by the commitment to the idea that OP is unreasonable here. I've never been in OP's exact position but I get why it was awkward and weird and didn't immediately jump to the conclusion she is overreacting.
Well, you seem oddly invested in the idea that these women went out of their way to exclude OP because she, along with many other schools parents, wasn’t invited. OP never did say if she was planning to invite every one of these women to the event she is planning at the same winery.
I never said I thought that these women went out of their way to exclude OP. I think probably it was either an accident (a text chain about the gathering and the people who might have invited OP either forgot to include her or were added to the group late enough that they didn't invite anyone) or maybe this is how OP found out that she wasn't as close to these particular women (meaning the group from her neighborhood she is actually friends with) as she thought.
I just agree that the incident would be kind of awkward and believe OP that it felt awkward in the moment. And I don't think it's weird she felt that way, as I can imagine a similar situation where I would also feel awkward. That's all. I don't think it was some giant conspiracy to exclude OP, but she *was* excluded (whether simply by accident or maybe a bit more purposefully, but probably not maliciously) and it's reasonable that she would feel the sting of that when it happened.
I think the people who are calling OP crazy or delusional or acting like it's totally unreasonable to feel as she did are protesting a little too much. You can empathize with OP without casting the other women involved as vicious mean girls.
But the incident wasn’t awkward and there was no need for anyone to feel awkward. No one did anything wrong.
She could have handled it like bumping into someone at the grocery store because this is essentially what this is. She happened to see a couple friends out doing something that didn’t concern her. A smile and wave is a normal response. Why be weird about it?
No, you are the one projecting facts onto this. OP said it was awkward, but you asserts it was not. She was there, you were not. She describes it as being normal at first when it was 4 or 5 women, but then a bunch more arrived and it became awkward. This makes sense to me, that as more women arrived it became increasingly weird that they were all getting together and OP didn't know anything about it. That is what OP describes and thus that is what I assume happened. Why are you so convinced her perception of this incident is incorrect? You weren't there so her word is all we have.
I'm not inventing any facts and just going on what OP is saying, I can empathize. You are imposing your own baggage onto it because you are determined to prove that OP misinterpreted a situation about which you only have OP's description. Why? You're tilting at windmills here and I don't get it.
NP. But…why would it be awkward for *people she’s not friends with* to get together without her? She doesn’t even know like 80% of the women there.
This. It is objectively not awkward to be excluded from a group of people you barely know. Add in the fact she seems gleeful about sending a follow up snark text and the resulting bus stop drama sounds like textbook BPD. I don’t take OP as a very reliable narrator.
This comment makes no sense. She knew about a third of the group reasonably well. It doesn't sound like the others were strangers, either, because otherwise how would she recognize them? If it was just two friends and then a bunch of total strangers, I would assume my friends were hanging out with the ladies from their barre class. But OP knew it was a group of moms from the school, likely because she knew 5 of them and had met the other 10.
The whole "these weren't her friends, they were strangers" narrative is something being pushed on OP but it's not what she said at all.
Not PP, but she is only actual friends with 2 of the 15. It’s insane to me that if I saw 2 friends, 3 acquaintances, and 10 women I didn’t know at all out to lunch together, that that would count as me being singled out and excluded.
OP here—I live in a small subdivision maybe 15 houses. Most of the moms (except for one) are moms from my kids classes. There was one mom that was not, but I know her as well. We had coffee together a couple of times.
Why are you trickling out information like this? You never said the moms’ kids were in the same classes as your kids.
NP, but I'm guessing it's because when OP posted the thread, her explicit goal was to solicit experiences from other moms who had experienced being left out of "cliques" and the like (I agree with people who don't think this was a clique but I do know what it's like to feel left out of a mom group so whatever).
It's only because a bizarrely obsessive group of posters started viciously ripping OP to shreds, putting words in her mouth, and accusing her of being delusional and unreasonable, that she has offered some additional detail. I don't think OP meant to make this an moratorium on her experience (which no one on this thread knows the nuanced details of but her), it just became that because some posters are weirdly obsessed with it. I don't know why, as we will never actually know enough to know if OP was "right" in feeling excluded. It might not even be knowable because we'd have to know the intentions and decisions of all 15 women. We don't. We won't. Let it go.
I just reread the first few pages, and I’m not seeing anything vicious. Maybe a little snarky and rude, but that’s the norm here. On the other side, we have posters calling the 15 anonymous women “b-witches,” “alcoholics” and “drinkers” simply for having the gall to get together, but I guess you’re ok with that.
A few posts, yes, but I've read the entire thread and even though I don't totally agree with OP's take on this situation, and really think she shouldn't have sent that text, I've wound up on her side because I do think people have been vicious to her. People have repeatedly called her delusional, self-absorbed, self-obsessed, etc. I did see the comments you are talking about but they are one off comments -- the people attacking (yes, attacking) OP have been relentless for over 20 pages. It is very weird and actually pretty ironic given the subject of the thread. I don't know that the women at the winery were a "clique," but I do feel comfortable saying some of the posters on this thread are mean-a$$ b***es.
OP started a thread to smack talk on other women and people are calling out her BS.
Anonymous wrote:Is this a private school, by any chance, OP?
OP—No. Fringe rural LCPS.
I knew this was Loudoun. I mean, not hard to decode by stopping by a winery on a Friday and bumping into a bunch of people you know, but also the mom clique vibes.
Do these moms not work and you do? That's a big factor in the mom clique at our ES.
OP—I work full time. I know one mom in my neighborhood works from home. The rest are SAHM.
LOL! You think maybe they didn't invite you because they know you work full time and probably wouldn't be able to go out for wine on a weekday afternoon?? I don't get invited to daytime things either, but I don't assume it is because the SAHMs are in a clique and are actively trying to exclude me. Geez!!
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you made unnecessarily awkward. People are allowed to meet up without you. If you had just been friendly and not made an issue of it, you might have been invited to the next one.
mom-clique mom has entered the group chat.
you might have been invited to the next one.
Jr. high all over again.
Seems very Jr high to be offended and send a snarky text. Normal person would have waved, said hi, moved on.
This.
Normal person would have invited OP to join in the fun with the table of people.
Normal people would assume OP had other plans…she wasn’t just free range at a winery on a Friday.
Anonymous wrote:Is this a private school, by any chance, OP?
OP—No. Fringe rural LCPS.
Is it your belief that if those other 2 families in your neighborhood ever do anything , even an activity that perhaps neither organized but were invited to, that they must include you?
How many knots are you going to twist yourself into to be "right" that OP is "wrong" about this?
You are so married to the idea that it is NEVER okay for a woman to feel left out or excluded, that when a woman says she felt that way, you are going to tear it apart until she admits she's the one in the wrong.
Why do you think you are like this? Why is it so hard for you to just think "yeah, I can see how that might have been uncomfortable for you"?
You’re weirdly worked up about one person’s comment. Take a break from the thread if you’re taking it that personally.
Nope, not worked up, just baffled by the commitment to the idea that OP is unreasonable here. I've never been in OP's exact position but I get why it was awkward and weird and didn't immediately jump to the conclusion she is overreacting.
Well, you seem oddly invested in the idea that these women went out of their way to exclude OP because she, along with many other schools parents, wasn’t invited. OP never did say if she was planning to invite every one of these women to the event she is planning at the same winery.
I never said I thought that these women went out of their way to exclude OP. I think probably it was either an accident (a text chain about the gathering and the people who might have invited OP either forgot to include her or were added to the group late enough that they didn't invite anyone) or maybe this is how OP found out that she wasn't as close to these particular women (meaning the group from her neighborhood she is actually friends with) as she thought.
I just agree that the incident would be kind of awkward and believe OP that it felt awkward in the moment. And I don't think it's weird she felt that way, as I can imagine a similar situation where I would also feel awkward. That's all. I don't think it was some giant conspiracy to exclude OP, but she *was* excluded (whether simply by accident or maybe a bit more purposefully, but probably not maliciously) and it's reasonable that she would feel the sting of that when it happened.
I think the people who are calling OP crazy or delusional or acting like it's totally unreasonable to feel as she did are protesting a little too much. You can empathize with OP without casting the other women involved as vicious mean girls.
But the incident wasn’t awkward and there was no need for anyone to feel awkward. No one did anything wrong.
She could have handled it like bumping into someone at the grocery store because this is essentially what this is. She happened to see a couple friends out doing something that didn’t concern her. A smile and wave is a normal response. Why be weird about it?
No, you are the one projecting facts onto this. OP said it was awkward, but you asserts it was not. She was there, you were not. She describes it as being normal at first when it was 4 or 5 women, but then a bunch more arrived and it became awkward. This makes sense to me, that as more women arrived it became increasingly weird that they were all getting together and OP didn't know anything about it. That is what OP describes and thus that is what I assume happened. Why are you so convinced her perception of this incident is incorrect? You weren't there so her word is all we have.
I'm not inventing any facts and just going on what OP is saying, I can empathize. You are imposing your own baggage onto it because you are determined to prove that OP misinterpreted a situation about which you only have OP's description. Why? You're tilting at windmills here and I don't get it.
NP. But…why would it be awkward for *people she’s not friends with* to get together without her? She doesn’t even know like 80% of the women there.
This. It is objectively not awkward to be excluded from a group of people you barely know. Add in the fact she seems gleeful about sending a follow up snark text and the resulting bus stop drama sounds like textbook BPD. I don’t take OP as a very reliable narrator.
This comment makes no sense. She knew about a third of the group reasonably well. It doesn't sound like the others were strangers, either, because otherwise how would she recognize them? If it was just two friends and then a bunch of total strangers, I would assume my friends were hanging out with the ladies from their barre class. But OP knew it was a group of moms from the school, likely because she knew 5 of them and had met the other 10.
The whole "these weren't her friends, they were strangers" narrative is something being pushed on OP but it's not what she said at all.
Not PP, but she is only actual friends with 2 of the 15. It’s insane to me that if I saw 2 friends, 3 acquaintances, and 10 women I didn’t know at all out to lunch together, that that would count as me being singled out and excluded.
OP here—I live in a small subdivision maybe 15 houses. Most of the moms (except for one) are moms from my kids classes. There was one mom that was not, but I know her as well. We had coffee together a couple of times.
Why are you trickling out information like this? You never said the moms’ kids were in the same classes as your kids.
NP, but I'm guessing it's because when OP posted the thread, her explicit goal was to solicit experiences from other moms who had experienced being left out of "cliques" and the like (I agree with people who don't think this was a clique but I do know what it's like to feel left out of a mom group so whatever).
It's only because a bizarrely obsessive group of posters started viciously ripping OP to shreds, putting words in her mouth, and accusing her of being delusional and unreasonable, that she has offered some additional detail. I don't think OP meant to make this an moratorium on her experience (which no one on this thread knows the nuanced details of but her), it just became that because some posters are weirdly obsessed with it. I don't know why, as we will never actually know enough to know if OP was "right" in feeling excluded. It might not even be knowable because we'd have to know the intentions and decisions of all 15 women. We don't. We won't. Let it go.
I just reread the first few pages, and I’m not seeing anything vicious. Maybe a little snarky and rude, but that’s the norm here. On the other side, we have posters calling the 15 anonymous women “b-witches,” “alcoholics” and “drinkers” simply for having the gall to get together, but I guess you’re ok with that.
This! OP attempted to stir up some sexist drama by accusing a group of female friends of being in the wrong simply for getting together in a group on a Friday afternoon and cattily requesting other posters share their “mom clique” stories. You don’t see dads getting ripped on like this for organizing an activity with a group of men and not inviting every person they know who may like to be included.
These 15 women did nothing wrong. They get together at a winery on a Friday afternoon and are being accused of being drunks, lazy SAHMs, exclusive b-itches, etc.
Sorry, but OP’s little tirade is very selfish and anti woman. Those women owe her nothing after getting shamed and guilted by her just for enjoying their Friday with friends. OP is gross.
Anonymous wrote:The mean girl pta vibe is heavy handed here. The defensive posture in favor of this group and antagonistic approach to op is wild.
+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.
Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited
It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.
+10000
It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.
Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?
If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.
If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?
If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.
That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.
If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.
But you wouldn’t have invited your friend in the first place? Ok.
Ah, but I would have. Maybe friend thought OP had been invited. Given the cards dealt, and OP showing up, yes I would have waved and asked her to join the table. It is apparent from the over whelming responses here that many moms on this thread are grown up mean girls. Just own it and stop deflecting onto OP.
Anonymous wrote:The mean girl pta vibe is heavy handed here. The defensive posture in favor of this group and antagonistic approach to op is wild.
+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.
Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited
It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.
+10000
It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.
Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?
If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.
If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?
If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.
That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.
If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.
But you wouldn’t have invited your friend in the first place? Ok.
Ah, but I would have. Maybe friend thought OP had been invited. Given the cards dealt, and OP showing up, yes I would have waved and asked her to join the table. It is apparent from the over whelming responses here that many moms on this thread are grown up mean girls. Just own it and stop deflecting onto OP.
+1 exactly
Some of you are so thirsty to be invited places that you call anyone with more friends and social plans than you a mean girl. Get over yourself.
Anonymous wrote:The mean girl pta vibe is heavy handed here. The defensive posture in favor of this group and antagonistic approach to op is wild.
+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.
Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited
It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.
+10000
It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.
Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?
If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.
If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?
If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.
That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.
If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.
But you wouldn’t have invited your friend in the first place? Ok.
Ah, but I would have. Maybe friend thought OP had been invited. Given the cards dealt, and OP showing up, yes I would have waved and asked her to join the table. It is apparent from the over whelming responses here that many moms on this thread are grown up mean girls. Just own it and stop deflecting onto OP.
+1 exactly
Some of you are so thirsty to be invited places that you call anyone with more friends and social plans than you a mean girl. Get over yourself.
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You wish.