Can we talk about the National Guard, when it was deployed and by whom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We do know that numerous people at the Capitol tried contacting the Pentagon repeatedly to get them to respond and it took 3 or 4 hours for the Pentagon to finally agree - apparently that may have been Pence.

Trump himself NEVER asked the Pentagon to defend the Capitol.

I do think we need a detailed accounting of every one of those conversations along with a detailed accounting of who at the Pentagon kept saying "no."

Yup. Hold them accountable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do know that numerous people at the Capitol tried contacting the Pentagon repeatedly to get them to respond and it took 3 or 4 hours for the Pentagon to finally agree - apparently that may have been Pence.

Trump himself NEVER asked the Pentagon to defend the Capitol.

I do think we need a detailed accounting of every one of those conversations along with a detailed accounting of who at the Pentagon kept saying "no."

Yup. Hold them accountable.

"As the 29th Chief of the National Guard Bureau and member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I provide input into every decision impacting our Joint Force and advise the Secretary of Defense on all matters involving the National Guard and the capabilities the National Guard of the 50 states, 3 territories, and District of Columbia..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do know that numerous people at the Capitol tried contacting the Pentagon repeatedly to get them to respond and it took 3 or 4 hours for the Pentagon to finally agree - apparently that may have been Pence.

Trump himself NEVER asked the Pentagon to defend the Capitol.

I do think we need a detailed accounting of every one of those conversations along with a detailed accounting of who at the Pentagon kept saying "no."

Yup. Hold them accountable.

"As the 29th Chief of the National Guard Bureau and member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I provide input into every decision impacting our Joint Force and advise the Secretary of Defense on all matters involving the National Guard and the capabilities the National Guard of the 50 states, 3 territories, and District of Columbia..."

General Daniel Hokanson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do know that numerous people at the Capitol tried contacting the Pentagon repeatedly to get them to respond and it took 3 or 4 hours for the Pentagon to finally agree - apparently that may have been Pence.

Trump himself NEVER asked the Pentagon to defend the Capitol.

I do think we need a detailed accounting of every one of those conversations along with a detailed accounting of who at the Pentagon kept saying "no."

Yup. Hold them accountable.

"As the 29th Chief of the National Guard Bureau and member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I provide input into every decision impacting our Joint Force and advise the Secretary of Defense on all matters involving the National Guard and the capabilities the National Guard of the 50 states, 3 territories, and District of Columbia..."

General Daniel Hokanson

"Input" - let's hear what his input was but remember that he has no authority.

I believe his role has more to do with overseas deployment of the NG

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do know that numerous people at the Capitol tried contacting the Pentagon repeatedly to get them to respond and it took 3 or 4 hours for the Pentagon to finally agree - apparently that may have been Pence.

Trump himself NEVER asked the Pentagon to defend the Capitol.

I do think we need a detailed accounting of every one of those conversations along with a detailed accounting of who at the Pentagon kept saying "no."

Yup. Hold them accountable.

"As the 29th Chief of the National Guard Bureau and member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I provide input into every decision impacting our Joint Force and advise the Secretary of Defense on all matters involving the National Guard and the capabilities the National Guard of the 50 states, 3 territories, and District of Columbia..."

General Daniel Hokanson

"Input" - let's hear what his input was but remember that he has no authority.

I believe his role has more to do with overseas deployment of the NG

"and advise the Secretary of Defense etc." What was his advice? To who? When? How? Who in the National Guard was giving him legal advice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What the gaslighters are ignoring is that even if Trump said something to someone about National Guard for Jan. 6, he was talking about National Guard to keep counter-protesters away from his crowd at the Ellipse. His Ellipse event was the only protest permitted and scheduled. The attack on the Capitol was his outlaw conspiracy, not a scheduled protest.

A series of permits were issued by US Capitol Police to various front groups affiliated with Ali Alexander/Stop the Steal/Moms for America. The president of Moms for America was a leading organizer for Stop the Teal. Confirmed speakers listed on the application included Alexander, Andy Biggs and Mo Brooks. Another speaker: CJ Pearson, a former campaign aide for Ted Cruz who has been identified as an “alternate elector” designee for Georgia (despite being a resident of Alabama). Confirmed speakers also included Paul Gosar and Marge Greene. This was the nexus for Trump’s plan to walk to the Capitol.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/jasonleopold/the-capitol-police-said-jan-6-unrest-on-capitol-grounds

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21059849/leopold-capitol-police-protest-permits-january-6-common-law-release.pdf

The permitted assembly area for the One Nation Under God assembly just happened to be the same area to which Josh Hawley directed his solidarity gesture. Just a coincidence I’m sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the gaslighters are ignoring is that even if Trump said something to someone about National Guard for Jan. 6, he was talking about National Guard to keep counter-protesters away from his crowd at the Ellipse. His Ellipse event was the only protest permitted and scheduled. The attack on the Capitol was his outlaw conspiracy, not a scheduled protest.

A series of permits were issued by US Capitol Police to various front groups affiliated with Ali Alexander/Stop the Steal/Moms for America. The president of Moms for America was a leading organizer for Stop the Teal. Confirmed speakers listed on the application included Alexander, Andy Biggs and Mo Brooks. Another speaker: CJ Pearson, a former campaign aide for Ted Cruz who has been identified as an “alternate elector” designee for Georgia (despite being a resident of Alabama). Confirmed speakers also included Paul Gosar and Marge Greene. This was the nexus for Trump’s plan to walk to the Capitol.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/jasonleopold/the-capitol-police-said-jan-6-unrest-on-capitol-grounds

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21059849/leopold-capitol-police-protest-permits-january-6-common-law-release.pdf

The permitted assembly area for the One Nation Under God assembly just happened to be the same area to which Josh Hawley directed his solidarity gesture. Just a coincidence I’m sure.

Six small permits, each for up to 50 participants so a maximum of 300 people were permitted to sit, stand, hold signs in specified areas outside the Capitol. That all.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:"Appointment.- There is a Chief of the National Guard Bureau, ... appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
...
An officer appointed as Chief of the National Guard Bureau serves at the pleasure of the President for a term of four years."

"...the chief is a military adviser to the National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, the secretary of defense, and the president on matters pertaining to the National Guard."

Chief of the National Guard Bureau:
General Daniel R. Hokanson

There are checks and balances. Do you honestly think the President can call and deploy the National Guard at his/her whim? Note in this article about the summer riot in DC, that Trump did not send in the national guard - the individual states did.

https://www.airforcemag.com/ten-states-send-guardsmen-to-assist-law-enforcement-in-d-c/

Another article that speaks of the difference between deploying the National Guard in DC and Federal buildings, as opposed to other situations:

“Simply put, the National Guard only shows up to D.C. when they’ve been invited, and the Capitol Police did not extend that invitation until after the breach, according to a source with knowledge of the process, who was not authorized to speak about it on the record.”

“ DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol.
Further, once they got there, Guard troops who had been acting in a traffic control capacity, not as law enforcement, would not have been able or authorized to forcibly push back rioters or help clear the building, a task that fell to the Capitol Police and the FBI tactical forces they requested to help out.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/07/this-is-why-the-national-guard-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/

This has been gone over in detail. The DC National Guard is unique in that it is under the direct command of the President and not controlled by DC.

This is not so. the article above details authority

It does not for DC. That is in reference to the MD, VA, etc NG not DCNG. DC has zero control over its own National Guard.

No! That's not how it works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Appointment.- There is a Chief of the National Guard Bureau, ... appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
...
An officer appointed as Chief of the National Guard Bureau serves at the pleasure of the President for a term of four years."

"...the chief is a military adviser to the National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, the secretary of defense, and the president on matters pertaining to the National Guard."

Chief of the National Guard Bureau:
General Daniel R. Hokanson

There are checks and balances. Do you honestly think the President can call and deploy the National Guard at his/her whim? Note in this article about the summer riot in DC, that Trump did not send in the national guard - the individual states did.

https://www.airforcemag.com/ten-states-send-guardsmen-to-assist-law-enforcement-in-d-c/

Another article that speaks of the difference between deploying the National Guard in DC and Federal buildings, as opposed to other situations:

“Simply put, the National Guard only shows up to D.C. when they’ve been invited, and the Capitol Police did not extend that invitation until after the breach, according to a source with knowledge of the process, who was not authorized to speak about it on the record.”

“ DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol.
Further, once they got there, Guard troops who had been acting in a traffic control capacity, not as law enforcement, would not have been able or authorized to forcibly push back rioters or help clear the building, a task that fell to the Capitol Police and the FBI tactical forces they requested to help out.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/07/this-is-why-the-national-guard-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/

This has been gone over in detail. The DC National Guard is unique in that it is under the direct command of the President and not controlled by DC.

This is not so. the article above details authority

It does not for DC. That is in reference to the MD, VA, etc NG not DCNG. DC has zero control over its own National Guard.

No! That's not how it works.

Lol
The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the District of Columbia National Guard. Command is exercised through the secretary of defense and the commanding general, Joint Force Headquarters (JFHQ), District of Columbia National Guard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Appointment.- There is a Chief of the National Guard Bureau, ... appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
...
An officer appointed as Chief of the National Guard Bureau serves at the pleasure of the President for a term of four years."

"...the chief is a military adviser to the National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, the secretary of defense, and the president on matters pertaining to the National Guard."

Chief of the National Guard Bureau:
General Daniel R. Hokanson

There are checks and balances. Do you honestly think the President can call and deploy the National Guard at his/her whim? Note in this article about the summer riot in DC, that Trump did not send in the national guard - the individual states did.

https://www.airforcemag.com/ten-states-send-guardsmen-to-assist-law-enforcement-in-d-c/

Another article that speaks of the difference between deploying the National Guard in DC and Federal buildings, as opposed to other situations:

“Simply put, the National Guard only shows up to D.C. when they’ve been invited, and the Capitol Police did not extend that invitation until after the breach, according to a source with knowledge of the process, who was not authorized to speak about it on the record.”

“ DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol.
Further, once they got there, Guard troops who had been acting in a traffic control capacity, not as law enforcement, would not have been able or authorized to forcibly push back rioters or help clear the building, a task that fell to the Capitol Police and the FBI tactical forces they requested to help out.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/07/this-is-why-the-national-guard-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/

This has been gone over in detail. The DC National Guard is unique in that it is under the direct command of the President and not controlled by DC.

This is not so. the article above details authority

It does not for DC. That is in reference to the MD, VA, etc NG not DCNG. DC has zero control over its own National Guard.

No! That's not how it works.

Lol
The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the District of Columbia National Guard. Command is exercised through the secretary of defense and the commanding general, Joint Force Headquarters (JFHQ), District of Columbia National Guard.

Sure, sure. You know better than the people who were in command there. Whatever you say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Appointment.- There is a Chief of the National Guard Bureau, ... appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
...
An officer appointed as Chief of the National Guard Bureau serves at the pleasure of the President for a term of four years."

"...the chief is a military adviser to the National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, the secretary of defense, and the president on matters pertaining to the National Guard."

Chief of the National Guard Bureau:
General Daniel R. Hokanson

There are checks and balances. Do you honestly think the President can call and deploy the National Guard at his/her whim? Note in this article about the summer riot in DC, that Trump did not send in the national guard - the individual states did.

https://www.airforcemag.com/ten-states-send-guardsmen-to-assist-law-enforcement-in-d-c/

Another article that speaks of the difference between deploying the National Guard in DC and Federal buildings, as opposed to other situations:

“Simply put, the National Guard only shows up to D.C. when they’ve been invited, and the Capitol Police did not extend that invitation until after the breach, according to a source with knowledge of the process, who was not authorized to speak about it on the record.”

“ DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol.
Further, once they got there, Guard troops who had been acting in a traffic control capacity, not as law enforcement, would not have been able or authorized to forcibly push back rioters or help clear the building, a task that fell to the Capitol Police and the FBI tactical forces they requested to help out.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/07/this-is-why-the-national-guard-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/

This has been gone over in detail. The DC National Guard is unique in that it is under the direct command of the President and not controlled by DC.

This is not so. the article above details authority

It does not for DC. That is in reference to the MD, VA, etc NG not DCNG. DC has zero control over its own National Guard.

No! That's not how it works.

Lol
The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the District of Columbia National Guard. Command is exercised through the secretary of defense and the commanding general, Joint Force Headquarters (JFHQ), District of Columbia National Guard.

Sure, sure. You know better than the people who were in command there. Whatever you say.

PP is correct. Who’s saying different and what specifically are they saying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Appointment.- There is a Chief of the National Guard Bureau, ... appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
...
An officer appointed as Chief of the National Guard Bureau serves at the pleasure of the President for a term of four years."

"...the chief is a military adviser to the National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, the secretary of defense, and the president on matters pertaining to the National Guard."

Chief of the National Guard Bureau:
General Daniel R. Hokanson

There are checks and balances. Do you honestly think the President can call and deploy the National Guard at his/her whim? Note in this article about the summer riot in DC, that Trump did not send in the national guard - the individual states did.

https://www.airforcemag.com/ten-states-send-guardsmen-to-assist-law-enforcement-in-d-c/

Another article that speaks of the difference between deploying the National Guard in DC and Federal buildings, as opposed to other situations:

“Simply put, the National Guard only shows up to D.C. when they’ve been invited, and the Capitol Police did not extend that invitation until after the breach, according to a source with knowledge of the process, who was not authorized to speak about it on the record.”

“ DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol.
Further, once they got there, Guard troops who had been acting in a traffic control capacity, not as law enforcement, would not have been able or authorized to forcibly push back rioters or help clear the building, a task that fell to the Capitol Police and the FBI tactical forces they requested to help out.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/07/this-is-why-the-national-guard-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/

This has been gone over in detail. The DC National Guard is unique in that it is under the direct command of the President and not controlled by DC.

This is not so. the article above details authority

It does not for DC. That is in reference to the MD, VA, etc NG not DCNG. DC has zero control over its own National Guard.

No! That's not how it works.

Lol
The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the District of Columbia National Guard. Command is exercised through the secretary of defense and the commanding general, Joint Force Headquarters (JFHQ), District of Columbia National Guard.

Sure, sure. You know better than the people who were in command there. Whatever you say.

PP is correct. Who’s saying different and what specifically are they saying?

Obvious collusion. High time for a real J6 investigation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Appointment.- There is a Chief of the National Guard Bureau, ... appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
...
An officer appointed as Chief of the National Guard Bureau serves at the pleasure of the President for a term of four years."

"...the chief is a military adviser to the National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, the secretary of defense, and the president on matters pertaining to the National Guard."

Chief of the National Guard Bureau:
General Daniel R. Hokanson

There are checks and balances. Do you honestly think the President can call and deploy the National Guard at his/her whim? Note in this article about the summer riot in DC, that Trump did not send in the national guard - the individual states did.

https://www.airforcemag.com/ten-states-send-guardsmen-to-assist-law-enforcement-in-d-c/

Another article that speaks of the difference between deploying the National Guard in DC and Federal buildings, as opposed to other situations:

“Simply put, the National Guard only shows up to D.C. when they’ve been invited, and the Capitol Police did not extend that invitation until after the breach, according to a source with knowledge of the process, who was not authorized to speak about it on the record.”

“ DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol.
Further, once they got there, Guard troops who had been acting in a traffic control capacity, not as law enforcement, would not have been able or authorized to forcibly push back rioters or help clear the building, a task that fell to the Capitol Police and the FBI tactical forces they requested to help out.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/07/this-is-why-the-national-guard-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/

This has been gone over in detail. The DC National Guard is unique in that it is under the direct command of the President and not controlled by DC.

This is not so. the article above details authority

It does not for DC. That is in reference to the MD, VA, etc NG not DCNG. DC has zero control over its own National Guard.

No! That's not how it works.

Lol
The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the District of Columbia National Guard. Command is exercised through the secretary of defense and the commanding general, Joint Force Headquarters (JFHQ), District of Columbia National Guard.

Sure, sure. You know better than the people who were in command there. Whatever you say.

PP is correct. Who’s saying different and what specifically are they saying?

Obvious collusion. High time for a real J6 investigation.

That didn’t answer the question.