TJ admissions change from Merit to Essay impact to Asian American Students

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Anonymous wrote:Some do not want their kids to go to TJ, while others desperately want to be there...

why even apply?

So that more brilliant, deserving and meritorious Asian-American kids don't get in. It's called Equity.

More brilliant, deserving than whom? So other race(s) are not brilliant and deserving? I'm Asian, and I think your statment is WRONG! Every race has brilliant & deserving students, not just us - Asian.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is race blind now. It’s not really equity. It’s boosting some and dampening others.

AAP appears to be going through that process

It's race-blind as a matter of law. If you have knowledge they aren't strictly following this, you have the grounds for a multimillion-dollar lawsuit.

Some kook can post any nonsense like this on DCUM because they're sour grapes. but courts require proof and there is none.

There exists a lengthy history of systemic racism against Asian Americans in the U.S., dating back to 1790. These discriminatory acts, laws, and official policies were intentionally designed to limit the opportunities of Asian Americans. While the FCPS school board approved the admission policy, it is blatantly discriminatory against Asian students.

https://exhibits.stanford.edu/riseup/feature/timeline-of-systemic-racism-against-aapi

In the landmark case of Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886), the Supreme Court ruled against the city of San Francisco for discriminating against Chinese immigrants in the enforcement of a laundry licensing law. Most of the city's wooden building laundry owners were Asian. The law required laundries in wooden buildings to obtain a permit, which was arbitrarily denied to Chinese-owned laundries while easily granted to others. Yick Wo, a Chinese immigrant, was convicted for operating a laundry without a permit and challenged the law's unequal application. The Supreme Court unanimously held that the law was unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, stating that while the law itself may be neutral, its discriminatory enforcement made it unconstitutional. This case marked an important precedent in protecting the rights of minorities against discriminatory government actions.

Now, lower math Algebra 1 is the single criteria being used to exclude Asian students, knowing well 1200+ denied Asian students have a higher level Geometry/Alg 2 math.

U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit:
“low-income Asian American students, as well as Asian American students attending middle schools theretofore poorly represented at TJ, saw far more offers of admission to TJ than they had in earlier years.”

https://www.advancingjustice-aajc.org/press-release/federal-appeals-court-upholds-constitutionality-thomas-jefferson-high-school


“SCOTUS rejected the argument by the Pacific Legal Foundation, who represents the Coalition for TJ, that the revised admissions criteria — including admitting the top 1.5% of eligible 8th graders from each middle school, eliminating the admissions test and $100 application fee, and considering the socioeconomic status of student applicants — unlawfully put Asian American students at a disadvantage. In fact, the race-blind changes were implemented to correct a biased and unfair admissions process that favored socioeconomically advantaged communities in Fairfax County. After the revisions to the admissions policy went into effect, the percentage of economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% to 25.09%, with Asian Americans being the largest racial group benefiting from this increase. The number of Latino applicants increased by 42%, and the number of Black applicants increased by 70%, resulting in more admitted Black and Latino students. “

https://www.advancingjustice-aajc.org/press-release/supreme-court-declines-review-federal-appellate-courts-decision-rejecting-legal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):
17-18: 1,216
18-19: 1,251
19-20: 1,293
20-21: 1,303
21-22: 1,264 **
22-23: 1,293 **
23-24: 1,275 **

It’s may not be obvious from above, but aside from 2020 & 2019, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than any other year in the school’s history.





So to recap, after the admissions change, there are more Asian students at TJ than all but two prior school years.

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Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?

You’ve narrowed the y-axis to make the change look more significant that it actually was.

The average % of Asian students in the admitted class was 68% before the change and now it’s 58%. So 10% drop. And, looking at absolute numbers, the number of Asian students per admitted class went from 330 to 321.

There are NINE fewer Asian students per admitted class on average.

And out of the hundreds of kids per class, there are about 9 fewer Asian students per class than before the change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some do not want their kids to go to TJ, while others desperately want to be there...

why even apply?

My child and family didn't know enough about it but is interested in stem.The application and tour was enough to help plan a good syllabus at the base school and also give my child some confidence that they could handle hard high school classes and what a good high school stem course load might look like. Once we heard the homework was another 2 hours a night every night plus a 40 minute drive each way there were too many impacts to the daily schedule to make it work for 4 years but it was still a great experience just to apply and we loved the school and have a lot of respect for it. Not Asian and hopefully the space went to some child who really wants to go there. My child got in on merit, all As, honors classes, stem extracurricular. There was no reason not to at least apply.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some do not want their kids to go to TJ, while others desperately want to be there...

why even apply?

People have the right to apply. Accepting the offer or not is their choice. Who are you to ask that question?

[Anonymous]

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Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?

You’ve narrowed the y-axis to make the change look more significant that it actually was.

The average % of Asian students in the admitted class was 68% before the change and now it’s 58%. So 10% drop. And, looking at absolute numbers, the number of Asian students per admitted class went from 330 to 321.

There are NINE fewer Asian students per admitted class on average.

And out of the hundreds of kids per class, there are about 9 fewer Asian students per class than before the change.

That's it? We are just discussing 10 Asians that aren't getting in each year because of the change?

[Anonymous]

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Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?

You’ve narrowed the y-axis to make the change look more significant that it actually was.

The average % of Asian students in the admitted class was 68% before the change and now it’s 58%. So 10% drop. And, looking at absolute numbers, the number of Asian students per admitted class went from 330 to 321.

There are NINE fewer Asian students per admitted class on average.

And out of the hundreds of kids per class, there are about 9 fewer Asian students per class than before the change.

That's it? We are just discussing 10 Asians that aren't getting in each year because of the change?

Yeah it’s wierd that the school is growing by 400 students and none of that growth includes Asians. Seems strange.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?

You’ve narrowed the y-axis to make the change look more significant that it actually was.

The average % of Asian students in the admitted class was 68% before the change and now it’s 58%. So 10% drop. And, looking at absolute numbers, the number of Asian students per admitted class went from 330 to 321.

There are NINE fewer Asian students per admitted class on average.

And out of the hundreds of kids per class, there are about 9 fewer Asian students per class than before the change.

That's it? We are just discussing 10 Asians that aren't getting in each year because of the change?

Yeah it’s wierd that the school is growing by 400 students and none of that growth includes Asians. Seems strange.

Is the Asian population growing in Fairfax County? Otherwise who cares?

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2022 data
https://thebullelephant.com/tjhsst-admission-stats-class-of-2022/

Why doesnt FCPS disclose the applicant count by race now, like they always did before admissions change? All data points to the fact that Asians acceptance rate is lower compared to students of other races. Is the concern it would get exposed?

At the time of selection, it's unknown since it's race-blind, which is a matter of law in the US.

That didn't stop a whole lot of colleges, or FCPS in the 90s.

There is a long history of racism against Asian Americans in the U.S., FCPS is make effort to make sure it continues.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/the-long-history-of-racism-against-asian-americans-in-the-u-s

Luckily FCPS favors Asians since they make up the largest cohort by a huge margin for these programs. Asians make up maybe 15% of the coutny's population but take up over 60% of the seats in TJ. The facts make it clear that there's if anything a pro-Asian bias in this process.

Do TJ students get more money per pupil than other students?

[Anonymous]

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Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?
Along with the admissions change, the total number of seats were expanded by 100 seats, but Asian students were solely excluded from participating in the expanded seat assignment. There are consistently 1000+ declined Asian applicants each year, largest among all ethnicities, and none of them are allowed to receive a single seat from the expanded seat quota.

discriminatory TJ admission policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?
Along with the admissions change, the total number of seats were expanded by 100 seats, but Asian students were solely excluded from participating in the expanded seat assignment. There are consistently 1000+ declined Asian applicants each year, largest among all ethnicities, and none of them are allowed to receive a single seat from the expanded seat quota.

discriminatory TJ admission policy

^^ these numbers are wrong. Scroll back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?

You’ve narrowed the y-axis to make the change look more significant that it actually was.

The average % of Asian students in the admitted class was 68% before the change and now it’s 58%. So 10% drop. And, looking at absolute numbers, the number of Asian students per admitted class went from 330 to 321.

There are NINE fewer Asian students per admitted class on average.

And out of the hundreds of kids per class, there are about 9 fewer Asian students per class than before the change.

That's it? We are just discussing 10 Asians that aren't getting in each year because of the change?

Yeah it’s wierd that the school is growing by 400 students and none of that growth includes Asians. Seems strange.

Your math is terrible.

[Anonymous]

The innumerate posters are giving some insight into why their kids didn’t get an offer to TJ…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?
Along with the admissions change, the total number of seats were expanded by 100 seats, but Asian students were solely excluded from participating in the expanded seat assignment. There are consistently 1000+ declined Asian applicants each year, largest among all ethnicities, and none of them are allowed to receive a single seat from the expanded seat quota.

discriminatory TJ admission policy

sanctioned too. equity politics benefits the politicians at the expense of bottom students suffering