TJ admissions change from Merit to Essay impact to Asian American Students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one, including Asians, want to go to a school that is 75% Asian.

My kid is waitlisted and ready to go, and if given an offer, would be more than delighted to work with TJ Asian peers, as they did on their middle school Math Counts, Science Olympiad, and VEX robotics teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one, including Asians, want to go to a school that is 75% Asian.

My kid is waitlisted and ready to go, and if given an offer, would be more than delighted to work with TJ Asian peers, as they did on their middle school Math Counts, Science Olympiad, and VEX robotics teams.

Thank you for not being racist. Hope your kid gets an offer!

[Anonymous]

That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

[Anonymous]

DEI is critical for equality. That’s why corporations are implementing program to be more inclusive.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About 60% is a pretty strong majority for a population that is only 20% of the school area.

Interestingly, NBA has 72.4% African American representation with only 12% overall population. But no one dares to pull a stunt like TJ admissions to reduce that NBA representation to mid 50%, which would be outrageous and illegal. But at TJ it's normal admissions policy.

Bruh TJ is a SCHOOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DEI is critical for equality. That’s why corporations are implementing program to be more inclusive.

In the past 2 years, the craze for DEI in corporate America has deflated a lot. When money was cheap, they could have an army of middle-level managers who do nothing but attending meetings and talking about equity. Now, all focus on productivity, cutting costs, and staying nimble. They have let go lots of those nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aww it's only merit when it measures what you want.

This

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

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Freaks and geeks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colleges went away from merit (SAT) for a few years and now returning to it as a more accurate measure of what they want in a kid.

The top colleges found that the SAT score is a good predictor of a student's performance in their demanding curriculum. And at the end of the day, what is the point of admitting students into an environment that they are not ready for. How would that help in building their confidence and leadership when they are always in the bottom quarter and survival mode?

When they use quantitative/objective measures like SAT scores, they can still incorporate other factors to make informed decisions. A 1,550 from a 1,400 HS should be more impressive than a 1,590 from a 1,550 HS. Remember SAT was introduced to give an equal footing to students from less advantaged families who cannot afford extra activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Main impact is the per-school quota, with some schools having few Asians. The essay will be adjusted for by prep schools, at out school Curie admits have gone up. It will be a different group of Asians getting admitted.

Haha no.

Yes they have. It appears Curie has figured out how to train kids on what to write on the essay to boost chances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

How do innocent algebra 1 kids benefit when they're placed at the bottom, enduring four years of misery as they strive to catch up with peers in the upper two-thirds, who are two years ahead in math and science? While the upper two-thirds may enjoy the supposed benefits (whatever they are) of diversity introduced by the inclusion of the bottom third, why impose the burden on the bottom third by subjecting them to a rigorous TJ curriculum they would struggle with? It seems like Algebra 1 students are getting the short end of the stick with admissions change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Main impact is the per-school quota, with some schools having few Asians. The essay will be adjusted for by prep schools, at out school Curie admits have gone up. It will be a different group of Asians getting admitted.

Haha no.

Yes they have. It appears Curie has figured out how to train kids on what to write on the essay to boost chances.

Thank you all for the free mention that Curie receives, but as it has been mentioned all classes are full and curriculum is for advanced math and science learners only. There is no silly essay training, please look elsewhere for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

How do innocent algebra 1 kids benefit when they're placed at the bottom, enduring four years of misery as they strive to catch up with peers in the upper two-thirds, who are two years ahead in math and science? While the upper two-thirds may enjoy the supposed benefits (whatever they are) of diversity introduced by the inclusion of the bottom third, why impose the burden on the bottom third by subjecting them to a rigorous TJ curriculum they would struggle with? It seems like Algebra 1 students are getting the short end of the stick with admissions change.

Serious answer: the rigorous curriculum at TJ is designed for calculus, whether it is taken as a senior, or a junior, or earlier. The students who took Algebra 1 in 8th grade are not behind and do not need to catch up to anyone. They are right on target for the TJ curriculum. Will they take multivar? Probably not, but it isn't needed for most/all of the senior research projects or for other classes. Calculus is required, and they will take it.

They're fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
How do innocent algebra 1 kids benefit when they're placed at the bottom, enduring four years of misery as they strive to catch up with peers in the upper two-thirds, who are two years ahead in math and science? While the upper two-thirds may enjoy the supposed benefits (whatever they are) of diversity introduced by the inclusion of the bottom third, why impose the burden on the bottom third by subjecting them to a rigorous TJ curriculum they would struggle with? It seems like Algebra 1 students are getting the short end of the stick with admissions change.

Not to mention, these students never make it to teams representing TJ in STEM competitions. If they want to make TJ more like NOVA's demographics, why don't they have more diverse teams for those competitions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How do innocent algebra 1 kids benefit when they're placed at the bottom, enduring four years of misery as they strive to catch up with peers in the upper two-thirds, who are two years ahead in math and science? While the upper two-thirds may enjoy the supposed benefits (whatever they are) of diversity introduced by the inclusion of the bottom third, why impose the burden on the bottom third by subjecting them to a rigorous TJ curriculum they would struggle with? It seems like Algebra 1 students are getting the short end of the stick with admissions change.

Not to mention, these students never make it to teams representing TJ in STEM competitions. If they want to make TJ more like NOVA's demographics, why don't they have more diverse teams for those competitions?

What an incredibly myopic and limited view of what TJ is and can be. A sad existence you must lead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How do innocent algebra 1 kids benefit when they're placed at the bottom, enduring four years of misery as they strive to catch up with peers in the upper two-thirds, who are two years ahead in math and science? While the upper two-thirds may enjoy the supposed benefits (whatever they are) of diversity introduced by the inclusion of the bottom third, why impose the burden on the bottom third by subjecting them to a rigorous TJ curriculum they would struggle with? It seems like Algebra 1 students are getting the short end of the stick with admissions change.

Not to mention, these students never make it to teams representing TJ in STEM competitions. If they want to make TJ more like NOVA's demographics, why don't they have more diverse teams for those competitions?

What an incredibly myopic and limited view of what TJ is and can be. A sad existence you must lead.

why would you care about SES and URM kids mental health!