TJ admissions change from Merit to Essay impact to Asian American Students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges went away from merit (SAT) for a few years and now returning to it as a more accurate measure of what they want in a kid.

You do realize that standardized tests are not the only way to measure merit, right?

Yes, and SAT is a merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

What people think about this?

https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/mcleans-championship-quiz-bowl-team-honored-fairfax-county-board?utm_term=article-slot-1&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&user_email=4953deb2850803b4b62cdaabf86559dfc62024ad0d53c1abc1241c9493b7412c&user_email_md5=5f66403bc57aeefe28d27d8c1bdd599c&lctg=64f72e156e3f546a09086048

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

It crosses my mind that a kid can stay in base school and have more time to memorize trivia.


What people think about this?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

What people think about this?

https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/mcleans-championship-quiz-bowl-team-honored-fairfax-county-board?utm_term=article-slot-1&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&user_email=4953deb2850803b4b62cdaabf86559dfc62024ad0d53c1abc1241c9493b7412c&user_email_md5=5f66403bc57aeefe28d27d8c1bdd599c&lctg=64f72e156e3f546a09086048

You have posted this link before, and we have already given thoughts by trucks load.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Main impact is the per-school quota, with some schools having few Asians. The essay will be adjusted for by prep schools, at out school Curie admits have gone up. It will be a different group of Asians getting admitted.
Prep schools might do so well that Asians will start enrolling in another school for a year to get those quota seats.

This is the correct response. It's NOT the ESSAY that is changing the admissions results. It's the PER SCHOOL QUOTA that is changing the demographics.

[Anonymous]

YOU LOST. MOVE ON.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges went away from merit (SAT) for a few years and now returning to it as a more accurate measure of what they want in a kid.

You do realize that standardized tests are not the only way to measure merit, right?

Yes, and SAT is a merit.

What do you mean by SAT is a merit?

It can be one possible way to measure one type of “merit”, but it is not the only way. Plus, there are many different types of “merit.” Doing well at TJ requires many different types of skills and talents, not all of which are measurable by a standardized test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

What people think about this?

https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/mcleans-championship-quiz-bowl-team-honored-fairfax-county-board?utm_term=article-slot-1&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&user_email=4953deb2850803b4b62cdaabf86559dfc62024ad0d53c1abc1241c9493b7412c&user_email_md5=5f66403bc57aeefe28d27d8c1bdd599c&lctg=64f72e156e3f546a09086048

I don't think it has much bearing on the overall effect of the TJ admissions changes on the school, but congratulations to McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This part is true.

"Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students”

If you didn’t enroll Algebra 1 in 7th grade, then it tells us that you failed to meet the benchmark score on the Iowa test and failed to achieve an advanced pass on the SOL. One thing FPCS knows for sure is that most of those students who enrolled in entry level math 7 honors are definitely non-Asian. Therefore, even without knowing your background, they do know where your background excels. They can recruit from just about any school across the county and be certain that those applicants who present Geometry HN or higher at the time of application are mostly likely Asians. So, skim from the bottom and not from the top. No need to rely exclusively on the applicants zip code. They can just look at the math course in 7th grade.

With data analytics, ample proxies can surface that can be used as admission criteria for arriving at a predetermined racial quota. Ironically, racial proxies are not considered racial in the court of law, unless it is certain kind of minority races getting affected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges went away from merit (SAT) for a few years and now returning to it as a more accurate measure of what they want in a kid.

You do realize that standardized tests are not the only way to measure merit, right?

Yes, and SAT is a merit.

What do you mean by SAT is a merit?

It can be one possible way to measure one type of “merit”, but it is not the only way. Plus, there are many different types of “merit.” Doing well at TJ requires many different types of skills and talents, not all of which are measurable by a standardized test.

Like getting free lunch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

What people think about this?

https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/mcleans-championship-quiz-bowl-team-honored-fairfax-county-board?utm_term=article-slot-1&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&user_email=4953deb2850803b4b62cdaabf86559dfc62024ad0d53c1abc1241c9493b7412c&user_email_md5=5f66403bc57aeefe28d27d8c1bdd599c&lctg=64f72e156e3f546a09086048

I don't think it has much bearing on the overall effect of the TJ admissions changes on the school, but congratulations to McLean.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YOU LOST. MOVE ON.

Of course, we lost. This changed admissions process ensures top half of TJ is all Asian. And my non-Asian kid will likely be at the bottom entering as an Algebra 1 student, if we accept the offer. And, all you have to say is, move on, that too in all caps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Main impact is the per-school quota, with some schools having few Asians. The essay will be adjusted for by prep schools, at out school Curie admits have gone up. It will be a different group of Asians getting admitted.
Prep schools might do so well that Asians will start enrolling in another school for a year to get those quota seats.

Haha no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YOU LOST. MOVE ON.

Of course, we lost. This changed admissions process ensures top half of TJ is all Asian. And my non-Asian kid will likely be at the bottom entering as an Algebra 1 student, if we accept the offer. And, all you have to say is, move on, that too in all caps?

If he wants to go, he should go. If he doesn't want to go, he shouldn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About 60% is a pretty strong majority for a population that is only 20% of the school area.

Interestingly, NBA has 72.4% African American representation with only 12% overall population. But no one dares to pull a stunt like TJ admissions to reduce that NBA representation to mid 50%, which would be outrageous and illegal. But at TJ it's normal admissions policy.

I see you couldn't even address the post you quoted and are supposedly responding to. Because it's undeniable.