9 Reasons to NOT get the H1N1 Vaccine

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Correction to previous post: the boy was in Tennessee, not Texas.

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One needs only to read a history of the Spanish Flu in 1918-1919 to understand why the mild form of swine flu in spring and summer could become unbelievably deadly quickly to those who are not vaccinated. Since the swine flu vaccine in both mist and shot form are made the same way seasonal vaccines are made, it is extraordinarily safe.

The drivel about how vaccines are bad is just modern day apathy with respect to DEADLY diseases. Good luck to your child not catching polio, which is back, or the swine flu, which is deadly to the younger crowd, just like the Spanish Flu was earlier in the century.

Frankly, I would consider you a bad mom if you did not even considering the alternatives. A worse mom for trying to convince others to your side of the argument. And frankly, if you were looking for validation of your really miserable analysis, I hope that the previous posters (not one of whom agreed with you) have convinced you that your analysis is NOT valid.

[Anonymous]

Oh this post makes me tired.

Thank you to all who posted accurate information refuting OP's points. OP, you really need to talk with some actual medical experts and stop citing random web sites for your info.

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Anonymous wrote:The original post contains one lie after another. It's a shame that uninformed people are taken in by such misinformation. I'll just take on a few of the biggest lies.

1. The swine flu is simply another flu. It is not unusually deadly.

Wrong - a number of people (including children and pregnant women) have already died as a result of swine flu, and many others have been hospitalized with serious complications. [u]

2. This is the first time both seasonal and pandemic flu vaccines will be administered. Both seasonal flu and swine flu vaccines will require two inoculations. This is because single inoculations have failed to produce sufficient antibodies. This is an admission that prior flu vaccines were virtually useless. Can you trust them this time?

Wrong - the seasonal flu vaccine only requires two innoculations if you are under 9 years old and have never received a flu shot before. The swine flu vaccination is approved for one dose in patients 10 years of age and older. Children younger than 10 will need two doses.

3. Adjuvants are added to vaccines to boost production of antibodies but may trigger autoimmune reactions. Some adjuvants are mercury (thimerosal), aluminum and squalene. Why would you sign a consent form for your children to be injected with mercury, which is even more brain-toxic than lead?

Wrong - thimerosal is not an adjuvant. It is a preservative. It is made of ethylmercury, which is not the same as methylmercury. Numerous scientific studies have shown that thimerosal does not cause autism. Preservative free versions of both the seasonal flu and H1N1 vaccines are available. The US versions of the seasonal flu and H1N1 vaccines DO NOT contain adjuvants - the European versions do.

6. Modern medicine has no explanation for autism, despite its continued rise in prevalence. Yet autism is not reported among Amish children who go unvaccinated.

Wrong - autism does indeed exist in the Amish community. There is a clinic for special children in Amish country that is devoted to treating autism and other developmental disorders. Dan Olmsted somehow "forgot" to visit this clinic when he was conducting his "study" which has been debunked countless times. And by the way, many Amish DO vaccinate their children.

The majority of people who died had pre-existing medical conditions that made the flu that much worse for them.

Yup, pregnancy is one of those unfortunate preexisting conditions that makes the swine flu ultra deadly.

An, btw, I know a 35 y.o. woman who DIED of seasonal flu in May. We all take the flu much too lightly.

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Anonymous wrote:PP that my be true (and someone please correct me if I am wrong) but my understanding is that a statistically significant number of healthy young adults and children died from the swine flu.

i heard yesterday that ~ 30% of the deaths so far have been in healthy children and adults. just heard that a 14 yo boy in ohio died, but don't know if he was otherwise healthy.

[Anonymous]

Do not argue!! everybody is going to do whatever is better for them. This is silly!!

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Anonymous wrote:Do not argue!! everybody is going to do whatever is better for them. This is silly!!

I'm SO TIRED of that excuse. Okay, so it's "better for me" if I throw back a few drinks everynight so I'm sloppy drunk? But really, "a happy mom is a better mom". C'mon. That bullshit excuse is thrown around way too easily...

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Anonymous wrote:It's parents like you that make me glad I didn't put my child in day care where he may get in contact wiTth your unvaccinated child. You're an idiot.

This is completely unnecessary. I don't think it's the OP who is sounding like the idiot...

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Anonymous wrote:Do not argue!! everybody is going to do whatever is better for them. This is silly!!

Far from it sister. I take great offense when other people try make the parents who vaccinate look like the irresponsible ones, when it's actually the other way around. We don't live in a bubble. As long as your child goes to school, takes the bus or does anything that puts him in contact with other people I think you have a responsibility to not spread your diseases around.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's parents like you that make me glad I didn't put my child in day care where he may get in contact wiTth your unvaccinated child. You're an idiot.

This is completely unnecessary. I don't think it's the OP who is sounding like the idiot...

I think that every single poster after me (the one who called her an idiot) did the same thing just not as concisely and eloquently as I did. What WAS unnecessary is a post loaded with lies and misinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's parents like you that make me glad I didn't put my child in day care where he may get in contact with your unvaccinated child. You're an idiot.

Not just an idiot, but a dangerous idiot. I hope people don't get taken in by this charlatan. The autism/vaccination link has been comprehensively disproved, you won't find any reputable doctors who support it.

OP, you should be ashamed of your ignorance, and even more ashamed by your attempts to persuade the gullible into being taken in by your undigested mish-mash of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.

I agree. Completely. Shame on you, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who continues to link vaccines to autism loses credibility with me. Vaccines do not cause autism, regardless of what Jenny McCarthy tells you.

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Anonymous wrote:Do not argue!! everybody is going to do whatever is better for them. This is silly!!

Actually, this is a public health issue as well.

[Anonymous]

Let it go. Let the crazies avoid the vaccine . . . then there will be shorter lines for the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Wow. I'm not the OP but I'm also not getting either vaccine this year. There are over 50 studies out there showing that vaccinated children have no less risk of getting the flu than vaccinated children...and often have better recovery rates than vaccinated children. My children have had some but not all vax's. I find the anger towards the original poster the kind of ignorance that comes when you don't have time to do the research on your own so you cling to your ideals. In this case, "my doctor and the CDC" must be right. Meanwhile there are too many instances to count of cases when the CDC and doctors approved drugs and vaccines that had to be pulled from the market because they were actually deadly. i.e. the previous swine flu vaccine and the rotovirus vaccine. Even though I straddle the fence, I have to say, I find the anti-vax crowd to be a WHOLE lot more educated on the subject.