The founders of Fusion GPS speak out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Fusion GPS has nothing to hide, they should turn over all subpoenaed documents. That will clear up everything - right?
Seems as if THEY have something to hide.

I am only guessing here, but there is no reason for a private business to turn over its financial records that have nothing to do with this particular case, nor should it need to turn over records of clients not related to this particular case.

NP. All politics aside: I'd guess they cannot turn over unrelated documents on other clients because it violates their contracts with those other clients to protect privacy. If they turn over other unrelated client's documents without a fight, it also will mean no one ever hires them again in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Fusion GPS has nothing to hide, they should turn over all subpoenaed documents. That will clear up everything - right?
Seems as if THEY have something to hide.

I am only guessing here, but there is no reason for a private business to turn over its financial records that have nothing to do with this particular case, nor should it need to turn over records of clients not related to this particular case.

NP. All politics aside: I'd guess they cannot turn over unrelated documents on other clients because it violates their contracts with those other clients to protect privacy. If they turn over other unrelated client's documents without a fight, it also will mean no one ever hires them again in the future.

I find it more problematic that Congressmen are demanding records completely unrelated to the dossier, Russia, and/or the 2016 election.

There is zero reason for agents of the government to be shaking down a private company for records on unrelated matters. This is what happens in China or Russia; we don't act this way in the United States of America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Fusion GPS has nothing to hide, they should turn over all subpoenaed documents. That will clear up everything - right?
Seems as if THEY have something to hide.

I am only guessing here, but there is no reason for a private business to turn over its financial records that have nothing to do with this particular case, nor should it need to turn over records of clients not related to this particular case.

NP. All politics aside: I'd guess they cannot turn over unrelated documents on other clients because it violates their contracts with those other clients to protect privacy. If they turn over other unrelated client's documents without a fight, it also will mean no one ever hires them again in the future.

I find it more problematic that Congressmen are demanding records completely unrelated to the dossier, Russia, and/or the 2016 election.

There is zero reason for agents of the government to be shaking down a private company for records on unrelated matters. This is what happens in China or Russia; we don't act this way in the United States of America.

We do when information points to that private company working with a presidential candidate to take down another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mole is George Papadopoulos. He said things to Australian intelligence officers, who told the US. This was reported in the NYT last week.

They matched what he said up with things learned from Fusion GPS, which gave the other things in the Steele Dossier credibility, so they investigated those as well.

Plus there were ongoing investigations of Russian money laundering through NYC real estate deals that also tied into some of this. Guess who was leading those? Oh yeah....Preet Bhahara.

For all you know, the mole is Bannon. You have no idea.

I bet there's a whole basket of moles. This administration leaks and has no loyalty or discipline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Fusion GPS has nothing to hide, they should turn over all subpoenaed documents. That will clear up everything - right?
Seems as if THEY have something to hide.

I am only guessing here, but there is no reason for a private business to turn over its financial records that have nothing to do with this particular case, nor should it need to turn over records of clients not related to this particular case.

NP. All politics aside: I'd guess they cannot turn over unrelated documents on other clients because it violates their contracts with those other clients to protect privacy. If they turn over other unrelated client's documents without a fight, it also will mean no one ever hires them again in the future.

I find it more problematic that Congressmen are demanding records completely unrelated to the dossier, Russia, and/or the 2016 election.

There is zero reason for agents of the government to be shaking down a private company for records on unrelated matters. This is what happens in China or Russia; we don't act this way in the United States of America.

We do when information points to that private company working with a presidential candidate to take down another.

There's nothing wrong with one presidential candidate taking down another, that's what campaigns do.

What's wrong is a candidate colluding with a foreign enemy to take down another candidate. That's what traitors do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Fusion GPS has nothing to hide, they should turn over all subpoenaed documents. That will clear up everything - right?
Seems as if THEY have something to hide.

I am only guessing here, but there is no reason for a private business to turn over its financial records that have nothing to do with this particular case, nor should it need to turn over records of clients not related to this particular case.

NP. All politics aside: I'd guess they cannot turn over unrelated documents on other clients because it violates their contracts with those other clients to protect privacy. If they turn over other unrelated client's documents without a fight, it also will mean no one ever hires them again in the future.

I find it more problematic that Congressmen are demanding records completely unrelated to the dossier, Russia, and/or the 2016 election.

There is zero reason for agents of the government to be shaking down a private company for records on unrelated matters. This is what happens in China or Russia; we don't act this way in the United States of America.

We do when information points to that private company working with a presidential candidate to take down another.

But it's fine for that now President to not have to disclose his taxes? You think the bigger issue here is that a private company worked with one candidate to bring down another, and not that a presidential candidate may have colluded with a foreign power to reveal ill gotten emails from one of our political organizations, or that our POTUS has the potential to be blackmailed? Seriously?

If a person has cancer, and a huge pimple on his nose, is going after the pimple more important than the cancer because you can see the pimple but not the cancer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And there's a mole in the Trump camp. Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Best part of the whole story. Mueller must be loaded for bear.

It definitely makes Comey's tweet "Oh Lordy, I hope there are tapes" take on a whole new meaning. Doesn't it?

There probably were tapes, and TrumpCon, Inc., destroyed them. More obstruction of justice.

TrumpCon, Inc., is known for destroying records requested by people suing him. No reason for him to change his ways now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many holes in this opinion piece.

1) Did Fusion GPS meet with the Russian lawyer before and after the Trump Jr meeting. No denial from the two founders in this article- so we can conclude they did meet with the Russian lawyer.

2) How does Fusion GPS know if Russians are paid or not? Even if they didn’t pay Russians, they still used our foreign adversaries as sources (collusion) to interfere with our election.

3) why did they involve John McCain after the election?

4) why did they refuse to testify and plead the fifth? What deal got them to testify? Congress needs to publish the deal they struck?

5) How does Fusion GPS know the dossier was not the source of the FBI investigation? Did they see the FISA application?

Their bank record needs to be made public. Campaign finance law may have been broken.

Nice try at spinning. Grassley told his constituents that he would release the transcript. The Republicans are covering or running scared. Devin Nunez is behaving like a man who is guilty as sin, scared sh**less, and frantically trying to save his own skin. I think that the Russians or someone else have a boatload of dirt on many Republicans in the House and Senate. How else do you explain Lyndsey Graham’s about face to become a boot licking sycophant to Trump. Orrin Hatch was kissing Trump’s butt so hard he probably left a hickey (maybe he was channeling Pence).

You know whose bank records we need? Trump’s and little Jared. Know whose tax forms we need? Trump’s and Jared’s. The only members of the Trump family I feel sorry for are Barron and Trump’s grandkids. The rest of them know their father/father-in-law/husband and his business is shady as hell. They’ve enabled his delusions and crazy for years.



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Did Fusion GPS actually meet with Veselnitskaya? By one account, someone from Fusion GPS was merely in the same courtroom as Veselnitskaya at the same time along with a hundred other people, they weren't even near each other and there were even photos of the seated attendees to show that.

"Showed up for the same hearing" doesn't necessarily mean "meet."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many holes in this opinion piece.

1) Did Fusion GPS meet with the Russian lawyer before and after the Trump Jr meeting. No denial from the two founders in this article- so we can conclude they did meet with the Russian lawyer.

2) How does Fusion GPS know if Russians are paid or not? Even if they didn’t pay Russians, they still used our foreign adversaries as sources (collusion) to interfere with our election.

3) why did they involve John McCain after the election?

4) why did they refuse to testify and plead the fifth? What deal got them to testify? Congress needs to publish the deal they struck?

5) How does Fusion GPS know the dossier was not the source of the FBI investigation? Did they see the FISA application?

Their bank record needs to be made public. Campaign finance law may have been broken.

Nice try at spinning. Grassley told his constituents that he would release the transcript. The Republicans are covering or running scared. Devin Nunez is behaving like a man who is guilty as sin, scared sh**less, and frantically trying to save his own skin. I think that the Russians or someone else have a boatload of dirt on many Republicans in the House and Senate. How else do you explain Lyndsey Graham’s about face to become a boot licking sycophant to Trump. Orrin Hatch was kissing Trump’s butt so hard he probably left a hickey (maybe he was channeling Pence).

You know whose bank records we need? Trump’s and little Jared. Know whose tax forms we need? Trump’s and Jared’s. The only members of the Trump family I feel sorry for are Barron and Trump’s grandkids. The rest of them know their father/father-in-law/husband and his business is shady as hell. They’ve enabled his delusions and crazy for years.



... ...

Did Fusion GPS actually meet with Veselnitskaya? By one account, someone from Fusion GPS was merely in the same courtroom as Veselnitskaya at the same time along with a hundred other people, they weren't even near each other and there were even photos of the seated attendees to show that.

"Showed up for the same hearing" doesn't necessarily mean "meet."

Simpson was with her at the hearing, hours before she met with Don Jr. And, met with her after.
Kind of sounds like a set up to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More democrat propaganda. These guys took the Fifth. Let them testify under oath and let's see what they have to say.

Wrong.

They testified. The GOP won't release the transcripts.

Read the darned article.

Why did they not show when they were invited to testify publicly? They chose not to testify. Why did Fusion GPS partners Peter Fritsch and Thomas Catán invoke the 5th at the House panel? They wanted a closed door hearing. They got it. If they had wanted the testimony to be public, they should have testified publicly when they had the chance.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/13/co-founder-of-firm-behind-trump-russia-dossier-will-not-testify-before-senate-next-week-240525

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/08/politics/house-intelligence-committee-fusion-gps-strike-deal/index.html

[Anonymous]

Do you know what isn't a set up?

Hundreds of millions of launder money through Trump and Kushner accounts.

Meetings with Russians from 2013 to the present.

Lying about said meetings.

PapaD and Flynn pleading guilty to charges.

Indictments to Manafort and Gates.

The dossier doesn't mean much for anything legally as it relates to Trump and Russia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More democrat propaganda. These guys took the Fifth. Let them testify under oath and let's see what they have to say.

Wrong.

They testified. The GOP won't release the transcripts.

Read the darned article.

Why did they not show when they were invited to testify publicly? They chose not to testify. Why did Fusion GPS partners Peter Fritsch and Thomas Catán invoke the 5th at the House panel? They wanted a closed door hearing. They got it. If they had wanted the testimony to be public, they should have testified publicly when they had the chance.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/13/co-founder-of-firm-behind-trump-russia-dossier-will-not-testify-before-senate-next-week-240525

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/08/politics/house-intelligence-committee-fusion-gps-strike-deal/index.html

Because they needed to get clarification on what documents needed to be produced and the line of questioning. They didn't want to be forced to disclose their client list or violate their disclosures with their clients.

Stop reading Breitbart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many holes in this opinion piece.

1) Did Fusion GPS meet with the Russian lawyer before and after the Trump Jr meeting. No denial from the two founders in this article- so we can conclude they did meet with the Russian lawyer.

2) How does Fusion GPS know if Russians are paid or not? Even if they didn’t pay Russians, they still used our foreign adversaries as sources (collusion) to interfere with our election.

3) why did they involve John McCain after the election?

4) why did they refuse to testify and plead the fifth? What deal got them to testify? Congress needs to publish the deal they struck?

5) How does Fusion GPS know the dossier was not the source of the FBI investigation? Did they see the FISA application?

Their bank record needs to be made public. Campaign finance law may have been broken.

Nice try at spinning. Grassley told his constituents that he would release the transcript. The Republicans are covering or running scared. Devin Nunez is behaving like a man who is guilty as sin, scared sh**less, and frantically trying to save his own skin. I think that the Russians or someone else have a boatload of dirt on many Republicans in the House and Senate. How else do you explain Lyndsey Graham’s about face to become a boot licking sycophant to Trump. Orrin Hatch was kissing Trump’s butt so hard he probably left a hickey (maybe he was channeling Pence).

You know whose bank records we need? Trump’s and little Jared. Know whose tax forms we need? Trump’s and Jared’s. The only members of the Trump family I feel sorry for are Barron and Trump’s grandkids. The rest of them know their father/father-in-law/husband and his business is shady as hell. They’ve enabled his delusions and crazy for years.



... ...

Did Fusion GPS actually meet with Veselnitskaya? By one account, someone from Fusion GPS was merely in the same courtroom as Veselnitskaya at the same time along with a hundred other people, they weren't even near each other and there were even photos of the seated attendees to show that.

"Showed up for the same hearing" doesn't necessarily mean "meet."

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1D937W

Simpson met with the Russian lawyer twice. And the information that Veseiniyskaya offered Don Jr. supposedly came from Fusion GPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Fusion GPS has nothing to hide, they should turn over all subpoenaed documents. That will clear up everything - right?
Seems as if THEY have something to hide.

Do you also conclude, from Trump's failure to make his tax returns public as promised, that he has something to hide?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Fusion GPS has nothing to hide, they should turn over all subpoenaed documents. That will clear up everything - right?
Seems as if THEY have something to hide.

Do you also conclude, from Trump's failure to make his tax returns public as promised, that he has something to hide?

Same thing goes for the Deutsche bank records. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear from turning them over.