The founders of Fusion GPS speak out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If Fusion GPS has nothing to hide, they should turn over all subpoenaed documents. That will clear up everything - right?
Seems as if THEY have something to hide.

Do you also conclude, from Trump's failure to make his tax returns public as promised, that he has something to hide?

Same thing goes for the Deutsche bank records. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear from turning them over.

Neither of these have been subpoenaed. Fusion’s records have been.

[Anonymous]

The only reason they want fusion's financial records is to get their client list. If you dig through a list, inevitably some client will come up that they can use to attempt to discredit Fusion. But none of that is actually relevant to what Fusion GPS actually found.

On the other hand, the DB records on Trump could actually provide evidence about Trump's relationship with Russia, which is of course extremely relevant to the investigation.

So if the House wants the info that could only discredit Fusion GPS, but they deliberately avoid information direcltly relevant to the Trump-Russia relationship, what does that say about the House Republicans?

[Anonymous]

Looks like Fusion GPS lost their case. A judge has ruled that the House panel can have access to their records.

A federal judge has denied a bid by the private investigation firm Fusion GPS to prevent the House Intelligence Committee from obtaining the firm’s bank records, as part of a congressional probe into the funding and creation of a so-called dossier containing a variety of accurate, inaccurate and salacious claims about President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon ruled Thursday that the House panel’s work appeared to be legitimate. He also rejected Fusion GPS’ claims that confidential information about its clients and sources would be in jeopardy of being leaked if the committee obtained the banking records it is seeking.

“The Subpoena at issue in today’s case,” Leon wrote in a 26-page opinion, “was issued pursuant to a constitutionally authorized investigation by a Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives with jurisdiction over intelligence and intelligence-related activities — activities designed to protect us from potential cyber-attacks now and in the future. The Subpoena seeks the production of records that have a ‘reasonable possibility’ … of producing information relevant to that constitutionally authorized investigation.”

“Although the records sought by the Subpoena are sensitive in nature — and merit the use of appropriate precautions by the Committee to ensure they are not publicly disclosed — the nature of the records themselves, and the Committee’s procedures designed to ensure their confidentiality, more than adequately protect the sensitivity of that information,” the judge added.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/04/fusion-gps-house-intel-records-325396

[Anonymous]

Well this just got interesting

[Anonymous]

I have seen numerous interviews of people who have been targeted by Fusion GPS - people who are investigating others represented by Fusion GPS. Many of those targeted are journalists.
Fusion GPS is similar to the mob, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have seen numerous interviews of people who have been targeted by Fusion GPS - people who are investigating others represented by Fusion GPS. Many of those targeted are journalists.
Fusion GPS is similar to the mob, IMO.

PP here.
This is one such case.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/17/trump-dossier-firms-smear-tactics-unveiled-fusion-gps-labeled-critic-pedophile-extortionist-and-drug-trafficker.html

The self-described “strategic intelligence” firm Fusion GPS that was behind the controversial anti-Trump dossier has a track record of intimidation and smear tactics, according to congressional testimony and the firsthand account of a London-based Venezuelan journalist who said he was labeled a “pedophile,” “extortionist” and “drug trafficker” after criticizing one of Fusion’s clients.

“I believe that Fusion GPS’s business is to do basically whatever the paymasters tell them to do,” Alek Boyd, the Venezuelan journalist, told Fox News in his first American TV interview. “They are particularly good at spreading misinformation, disinformation and smears.”

Boyd says he was targeted after his 2012 reporting on Derwick Associates, a power company with close ties to the Venezuelan government. The company allegedly skimmed nearly a billion dollars from rigged contracts with the late Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez.

“It is my understanding that [Fusion GPS] were hired basically to smear Derwick opponents and to dispel any possible doubts that regular media may have had at the time,” he said.

British police records show Boyd reported a break-in, with two laptops stolen from his London apartment in November 2014. Asked by Fox News what was on the computers, Boyd said, “A lot of information and a lot of evidence about corruption and scandals in Venezuela that I’ve been compiling throughout the years.”

After the break-in, Boyd said his sources were attacked. “People that were believed to be collaborating and sending me information from Venezuela were assaulted in Venezuela by the intelligence police of Mr. Chavez,” he said.

Asked if Fusion GPS was tasked with coming after him, Boyd said, “I believe that they were involved in the defamation campaign — smearing campaign — shortly after my apartment was broken into.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have seen numerous interviews of people who have been targeted by Fusion GPS - people who are investigating others represented by Fusion GPS. Many of those targeted are journalists.
Fusion GPS is similar to the mob, IMO.

Here is yet another case.

http://www.businessinsider.com/fusion-gps-trump-russia-dossier-bill-browder-2017-7?r=UK&IR=T

[Anonymous]

Fox News is your source and there is a lot of "I believe" and no actual evidence.

#fakenews

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen numerous interviews of people who have been targeted by Fusion GPS - people who are investigating others represented by Fusion GPS. Many of those targeted are journalists.
Fusion GPS is similar to the mob, IMO.

Here is yet another case.

http://www.businessinsider.com/fusion-gps-trump-russia-dossier-bill-browder-2017-7?r=UK&IR=T

You are literally defending Putin with this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have seen numerous interviews of people who have been targeted by Fusion GPS - people who are investigating others represented by Fusion GPS. Many of those targeted are journalists.
Fusion GPS is similar to the mob, IMO.

Fusion is a hired gun. The dossier was not assembled by Fusion but by Chris Steele, long respected by the US IC. Much material in it has been confirmed by independent sources, including allied intelligence agencies. The attacks on Fusion are a diversion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only reason they want fusion's financial records is to get their client list. If you dig through a list, inevitably some client will come up that they can use to attempt to discredit Fusion. But none of that is actually relevant to what Fusion GPS actually found.

On the other hand, the DB records on Trump could actually provide evidence about Trump's relationship with Russia, which is of course extremely relevant to the investigation.

So if the House wants the info that could only discredit Fusion GPS, but they deliberately avoid information direcltly relevant to the Trump-Russia relationship, what does that say about the House Republicans?

The motives are obvious, and presumably shared by some commenting here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many holes in this opinion piece.

1) Did Fusion GPS meet with the Russian lawyer before and after the Trump Jr meeting. No denial from the two founders in this article- so we can conclude they did meet with the Russian lawyer.

2) How does Fusion GPS know if Russians are paid or not? Even if they didn’t pay Russians, they still used our foreign adversaries as sources (collusion) to interfere with our election.

3) why did they involve John McCain after the election?

4) why did they refuse to testify and plead the fifth? What deal got them to testify? Congress needs to publish the deal they struck?

5) How does Fusion GPS know the dossier was not the source of the FBI investigation? Did they see the FISA application?

Their bank record needs to be made public. Campaign finance law may have been broken.

Nice try at spinning. Grassley told his constituents that he would release the transcript. The Republicans are covering or running scared. Devin Nunez is behaving like a man who is guilty as sin, scared sh**less, and frantically trying to save his own skin. I think that the Russians or someone else have a boatload of dirt on many Republicans in the House and Senate. How else do you explain Lyndsey Graham’s about face to become a boot licking sycophant to Trump. Orrin Hatch was kissing Trump’s butt so hard he probably left a hickey (maybe he was channeling Pence).

You know whose bank records we need? Trump’s and little Jared. Know whose tax forms we need? Trump’s and Jared’s. The only members of the Trump family I feel sorry for are Barron and Trump’s grandkids. The rest of them know their father/father-in-law/husband and his business is shady as hell. They’ve enabled his delusions and crazy for years.



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Did Fusion GPS actually meet with Veselnitskaya? By one account, someone from Fusion GPS was merely in the same courtroom as Veselnitskaya at the same time along with a hundred other people, they weren't even near each other and there were even photos of the seated attendees to show that.

"Showed up for the same hearing" doesn't necessarily mean "meet."

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1D937W

Simpson met with the Russian lawyer twice. And the information that Veseiniyskaya offered Don Jr. supposedly came from Fusion GPS.

Np. This is unbelievable. This is exactly the way I view this scenario when Veselnitskaya stsyed in a thousand dollar a night hotel room paid for by our government. These were people who claimed to “be on her tail” the entire time she was in the U.S.? Sure they were.

This was a set up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many holes in this opinion piece.

1) Did Fusion GPS meet with the Russian lawyer before and after the Trump Jr meeting. No denial from the two founders in this article- so we can conclude they did meet with the Russian lawyer.

2) How does Fusion GPS know if Russians are paid or not? Even if they didn’t pay Russians, they still used our foreign adversaries as sources (collusion) to interfere with our election.

3) why did they involve John McCain after the election?

4) why did they refuse to testify and plead the fifth? What deal got them to testify? Congress needs to publish the deal they struck?

5) How does Fusion GPS know the dossier was not the source of the FBI investigation? Did they see the FISA application?

Their bank record needs to be made public. Campaign finance law may have been broken.

Nice try at spinning. Grassley told his constituents that he would release the transcript. The Republicans are covering or running scared. Devin Nunez is behaving like a man who is guilty as sin, scared sh**less, and frantically trying to save his own skin. I think that the Russians or someone else have a boatload of dirt on many Republicans in the House and Senate. How else do you explain Lyndsey Graham’s about face to become a boot licking sycophant to Trump. Orrin Hatch was kissing Trump’s butt so hard he probably left a hickey (maybe he was channeling Pence).

You know whose bank records we need? Trump’s and little Jared. Know whose tax forms we need? Trump’s and Jared’s. The only members of the Trump family I feel sorry for are Barron and Trump’s grandkids. The rest of them know their father/father-in-law/husband and his business is shady as hell. They’ve enabled his delusions and crazy for years.



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Did Fusion GPS actually meet with Veselnitskaya? By one account, someone from Fusion GPS was merely in the same courtroom as Veselnitskaya at the same time along with a hundred other people, they weren't even near each other and there were even photos of the seated attendees to show that.

"Showed up for the same hearing" doesn't necessarily mean "meet."

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1D937W

Simpson met with the Russian lawyer twice. And the information that Veseiniyskaya offered Don Jr. supposedly came from Fusion GPS.

Np. This is unbelievable. This is exactly the way I view this scenario when Veselnitskaya stsyed in a thousand dollar a night hotel room paid for by our government. These were people who claimed to “be on her tail” the entire time she was in the U.S.? Sure they were.

This was a set up.

It's a small world.

A set up? By Simpson? That doesn't even make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Basically they called Nunes a liar and accuse the GOP of ignoring Trump's various money laundering schemes.

Good times! #maga

Damn
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html

I think the burden of proof is on the U.S. government isn't under the complete control of Putin. At this point, there's no evidence the United States is still independent.

If the answer is, "We could have just as easily been under the control of Putin under Obama," fine. Try to document them. I'll listen. But pretending that it's a sure thing we'd respond if Russia tried to take over Finland or Sweden right now seems silly right now. Even if Mattis knows he has the ability to respond, how does he know he has control over the officers? How does he know the computers and communication systems will work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only reason they want fusion's financial records is to get their client list. If you dig through a list, inevitably some client will come up that they can use to attempt to discredit Fusion. But none of that is actually relevant to what Fusion GPS actually found.

On the other hand, the DB records on Trump could actually provide evidence about Trump's relationship with Russia, which is of course extremely relevant to the investigation.

So if the House wants the info that could only discredit Fusion GPS, but they deliberately avoid information direcltly relevant to the Trump-Russia relationship, what does that say about the House Republicans?

The motives are obvious, and presumably shared by some commenting here.

Two subsets of allied-users on Twitter was buzzing with the unverified allegations long before the FBI got the dossier. Idk what others motives are other than getting to the truth.