Are Florida schools ruined now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

+10000. Yankees please stay away.

[Anonymous]

We moved to FL because our kids are grown and we WFH. I would never want one of my kids to go through elementary and high school here. There are lots of obnoxious Bible thumpers with a lot of hate in them. They sanitize history and think DeSantis and Trump are going to save them from their crazy thoughts.
However, there are some great post high school opportunities. Florida State and UofFL are good schools who seem to be taking more OOS students. There are some great sleeper schools for the right fit. JU (Jacksonville University), Stetson, Flagler. It’s worth a look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, Florida has especially ruined high school. Would not want to be a poor or middle class teenager there, trying to prepare for college.

There is little or no guidance for high school students who are college bound.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

+10000. Yankees please stay away.

This is a great response that represents the culture in FL education.
To this us Yankees say, bless your heart.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

+1

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People vote with their feet. The recent migration stats are astonishing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

No one called Ethiopian or Muslims white supremacists. Enough with that nonsense. There certainly were transphobes, though. They were rightly told their objections were invalid. If they want to live in this country they will need to assimilate to our more tolerant society.

And spare me your bullshit about the Holocaust and teaching it in schools. Right wingers are closely tied to antisemitism and Holocaust denial. See the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville or Texas school policy. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-curriculum-schools-hb-3979

If you have to reach back almost 7 years to find one instance of a couple dozen idiots from the right, you have no leg to stand on.
My examples happened this year and are still ongoing.

Democrats did more damage to public education in 1.5 years than republicans could have ever dreamed of.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

No one called Ethiopian or Muslims white supremacists. Enough with that nonsense. There certainly were transphobes, though. They were rightly told their objections were invalid. If they want to live in this country they will need to assimilate to our more tolerant society.

And spare me your bullshit about the Holocaust and teaching it in schools. Right wingers are closely tied to antisemitism and Holocaust denial. See the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville or Texas school policy. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-curriculum-schools-hb-3979

"I love diversity!*"
*As long as people only think, believe and act exactly like me. How dare this brown people have their own beliefs! Go back where you came from amiright?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Florida schools have been awful since the 80’s.

And yet their pupils repeatedly out rank more liberal states in Nation’s report card (states with far higher education budgets for their public schools than Florida). Cough. Cough. Maryland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

None of what you wrote is true. Orlando schools district pulled almost 700 titles from its shelves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Florida schools have been awful since the 80’s.

And yet their pupils repeatedly out rank more liberal states in Nation’s report card (states with far higher education budgets for their public schools than Florida). Cough. Cough. Maryland.

Indeed.

But haters gonna hate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

None of what you wrote is true. Orlando schools district pulled almost 700 titles from its shelves.

You are lying or just plain brainwashed. 700 titles may have been pulled and still what I wrote is true. Parents who want porn and ideological bs for their kids can buy that on their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Of course they are

1. DeSantis and his Nazi lovers mom’s for Liberty and Catholic crowd ruining already crappy public schools
2. Retire to Florida with DeSantis who isn’t leaving office and has run the state to the ground killing the cost of housing and insurance retirement not happening

Florida colleges are headed for no accreditation by 2025 yes morons this is going to happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

None of what you wrote is true. Orlando schools district pulled almost 700 titles from its shelves.

You are lying or just plain brainwashed. 700 titles may have been pulled and still what I wrote is true. Parents who want porn and ideological bs for their kids can buy that on their own.

Wow, did someone say propaganda?