RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous
He will definitely pull votes from Trump. There are definitely voters that don't want to vote for Biden but feel icky about Trump. They will vote for RFK (unless another independent candidate enters the contest.)
Anonymous
That's a brilliant analysis, but no. Try again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dude knows his facts with references and none of the covid Vax pushers will debate him anymore. He always wins.


Wins what? Anyone that wants to make medical decisions for their families based on rfk instead of their doc went that way long ago. He is not changing anyone's minds.
Anonymous
Amaryllis Fox, RFK Jr.’s daughter in law and a fraud who wrote a falsified memoir about her largely imaginary exploits in the CIA, is now running his wingnut campaign. Truly going places.
https://www.spytalk.co/p/spurious-spy-now-runs-rfk-jr-campaign?r=2hta&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Amaryllis Fox, RFK Jr.’s daughter in law and a fraud who wrote a falsified memoir about her largely imaginary exploits in the CIA, is now running his wingnut campaign. Truly going places.
https://www.spytalk.co/p/spurious-spy-now-runs-rfk-jr-campaign?r=2hta&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web


So many wingnuts around that I had totally forgotten about her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude knows his facts with references and none of the covid Vax pushers will debate him anymore. He always wins.


Wins what? Anyone that wants to make medical decisions for their families based on rfk instead of their doc went that way long ago. He is not changing anyone's minds.


You are forgetting how many people didn't have privilege to practice personal medical decisions because of the vax mandates in some industries (medical profession, etc) and places like NYC (where ALL employers of ALL sizes had mandates and you could not literally work anywhere unless you were remote and your company had multiple out of state offices). Many cities had vaxxports and NYC had them for 5 year old+ kids. I absolutely support RFK and I can't wait for all the investigations of horrible abuses of power in our major cities and private hospitals and most colleges to deny people their basic rights over their bodies, to force medical interventions upon them they didn't need (many were Covid recovered by the time mandates hit) and their doctors didn't advise for their age, risk group, etc. Nobody is restricting your access to whatever vaccines and meds you want.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find him compelling.

He wants to scale back the military-industrial complex and reduce our involvement in foreign conflicts.

He has a tremendous record of environmentalism.

He is anti-mandate. Most people are not "anti-vaxxers", they are concerned about the government coercion involved with the covid vax.



In a global pandemic with a new virus that kills people, the way to ensure public safety is to get people to test and vaccinate. States where people did this had less negative health impact and deaths that states and countries that didn't.

We already have "coercion" of vaccinations in the form of all of the shots babies and kids get for the 18 years before they are adults. There is a reason that until very recently, Polio was a thing of the past. Now, it isn't because of lunatics like RFK, Jr.


Compare and contrast the outcome of states or countries with different policies and tell me the juice was worth the squeeze. Public trust in health organizations has been destroyed for marginal at best differences. Medical treatment should never be coerced as it drives further distrust.


This.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude knows his facts with references and none of the covid Vax pushers will debate him anymore. He always wins.


Wins what? Anyone that wants to make medical decisions for their families based on rfk instead of their doc went that way long ago. He is not changing anyone's minds.


You are forgetting how many people didn't have privilege to practice personal medical decisions because of the vax mandates in some industries (medical profession, etc) and places like NYC (where ALL employers of ALL sizes had mandates and you could not literally work anywhere unless you were remote and your company had multiple out of state offices). Many cities had vaxxports and NYC had them for 5 year old+ kids. I absolutely support RFK and I can't wait for all the investigations of horrible abuses of power in our major cities and private hospitals and most colleges to deny people their basic rights over their bodies, to force medical interventions upon them they didn't need (many were Covid recovered by the time mandates hit) and their doctors didn't advise for their age, risk group, etc. Nobody is restricting your access to whatever vaccines and meds you want.


Blah, blah, blah. You wackos think you've discovered some big new conspiracy. I worked in public health right out of college in the mid-'90s and we had people back then protesting our efforts to boost infant immunization rates. You're just the same dillweeds with a new cause.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude knows his facts with references and none of the covid Vax pushers will debate him anymore. He always wins.


Wins what? Anyone that wants to make medical decisions for their families based on rfk instead of their doc went that way long ago. He is not changing anyone's minds.


You are forgetting how many people didn't have privilege to practice personal medical decisions because of the vax mandates in some industries (medical profession, etc) and places like NYC (where ALL employers of ALL sizes had mandates and you could not literally work anywhere unless you were remote and your company had multiple out of state offices). Many cities had vaxxports and NYC had them for 5 year old+ kids. I absolutely support RFK and I can't wait for all the investigations of horrible abuses of power in our major cities and private hospitals and most colleges to deny people their basic rights over their bodies, to force medical interventions upon them they didn't need (many were Covid recovered by the time mandates hit) and their doctors didn't advise for their age, risk group, etc. Nobody is restricting your access to whatever vaccines and meds you want.


Like was said.... people that wanted to ignore the advice of their doc in favor of rfks medical guidance went that way already.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find him compelling.

He wants to scale back the military-industrial complex and reduce our involvement in foreign conflicts.

He has a tremendous record of environmentalism.

He is anti-mandate. Most people are not "anti-vaxxers", they are concerned about the government coercion involved with the covid vax.



In a global pandemic with a new virus that kills people, the way to ensure public safety is to get people to test and vaccinate. States where people did this had less negative health impact and deaths that states and countries that didn't.

We already have "coercion" of vaccinations in the form of all of the shots babies and kids get for the 18 years before they are adults. There is a reason that until very recently, Polio was a thing of the past. Now, it isn't because of lunatics like RFK, Jr.


Compare and contrast the outcome of states or countries with different policies and tell me the juice was worth the squeeze. Public trust in health organizations has been destroyed for marginal at best differences. Medical treatment should never be coerced as it drives further distrust.


Public trust was destroyed because Trump destroyed it with his nonsense. Cow paste, anyone?


Ivermectin is prescribed to humans in tablet form. It is not a "horse dewormer", it's sometimes used off label, but even on-label it IS prescribed as an anti-parasitic drug to humans because, guess what, genius, humans get parasites too. "science".

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude knows his facts with references and none of the covid Vax pushers will debate him anymore. He always wins.


Wins what? Anyone that wants to make medical decisions for their families based on rfk instead of their doc went that way long ago. He is not changing anyone's minds.


You are forgetting how many people didn't have privilege to practice personal medical decisions because of the vax mandates in some industries (medical profession, etc) and places like NYC (where ALL employers of ALL sizes had mandates and you could not literally work anywhere unless you were remote and your company had multiple out of state offices). Many cities had vaxxports and NYC had them for 5 year old+ kids. I absolutely support RFK and I can't wait for all the investigations of horrible abuses of power in our major cities and private hospitals and most colleges to deny people their basic rights over their bodies, to force medical interventions upon them they didn't need (many were Covid recovered by the time mandates hit) and their doctors didn't advise for their age, risk group, etc. Nobody is restricting your access to whatever vaccines and meds you want.


Like was said.... people that wanted to ignore the advice of their doc in favor of rfks medical guidance went that way already.


My doctor didn't advise Covid shots for our family AT ALL. I doubt it was PCPs pushing their patients to take the shots. And if they did, it's probably because you are high risk or brought up the matter yourself. We didn't bring it up and no doctor ever suggested we take them. In fact most people took them upon advise of our government officials, propaganda that it stops Covid infection and transmission (they don't), TV and entertainment celebrities, and their workplace mandates or college mandates.
Anonymous
He will draw from the more centric wings of both parties.
There are Dems who are anti mandate and anti “need to police every war in the world”.
There are republicans who are anti trump and pro war on Russia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find him compelling.

He wants to scale back the military-industrial complex and reduce our involvement in foreign conflicts.

He has a tremendous record of environmentalism.

He is anti-mandate. Most people are not "anti-vaxxers", they are concerned about the government coercion involved with the covid vax.



In a global pandemic with a new virus that kills people, the way to ensure public safety is to get people to test and vaccinate. States where people did this had less negative health impact and deaths that states and countries that didn't.

We already have "coercion" of vaccinations in the form of all of the shots babies and kids get for the 18 years before they are adults. There is a reason that until very recently, Polio was a thing of the past. Now, it isn't because of lunatics like RFK, Jr.


Compare and contrast the outcome of states or countries with different policies and tell me the juice was worth the squeeze. Public trust in health organizations has been destroyed for marginal at best differences. Medical treatment should never be coerced as it drives further distrust.


Public trust was destroyed because Trump destroyed it with his nonsense. Cow paste, anyone?


Ivermectin is prescribed to humans in tablet form. It is not a "horse dewormer", it's sometimes used off label, but even on-label it IS prescribed as an anti-parasitic drug to humans because, guess what, genius, humans get parasites too. "science".


And if covid were a parasite, it might have helped.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude knows his facts with references and none of the covid Vax pushers will debate him anymore. He always wins.


Wins what? Anyone that wants to make medical decisions for their families based on rfk instead of their doc went that way long ago. He is not changing anyone's minds.


You are forgetting how many people didn't have privilege to practice personal medical decisions because of the vax mandates in some industries (medical profession, etc) and places like NYC (where ALL employers of ALL sizes had mandates and you could not literally work anywhere unless you were remote and your company had multiple out of state offices). Many cities had vaxxports and NYC had them for 5 year old+ kids. I absolutely support RFK and I can't wait for all the investigations of horrible abuses of power in our major cities and private hospitals and most colleges to deny people their basic rights over their bodies, to force medical interventions upon them they didn't need (many were Covid recovered by the time mandates hit) and their doctors didn't advise for their age, risk group, etc. Nobody is restricting your access to whatever vaccines and meds you want.


Blah, blah, blah. You wackos think you've discovered some big new conspiracy. I worked in public health right out of college in the mid-'90s and we had people back then protesting our efforts to boost infant immunization rates. You're just the same dillweeds with a new cause.


Well, congrats helping boost antivax movement. It's the likes of you in "public health", and other dillweeds who pushed and cheered for Covid vax mandates and vaxxports. You did it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find him compelling.

He wants to scale back the military-industrial complex and reduce our involvement in foreign conflicts.

He has a tremendous record of environmentalism.

He is anti-mandate. Most people are not "anti-vaxxers", they are concerned about the government coercion involved with the covid vax.



In a global pandemic with a new virus that kills people, the way to ensure public safety is to get people to test and vaccinate. States where people did this had less negative health impact and deaths that states and countries that didn't.

We already have "coercion" of vaccinations in the form of all of the shots babies and kids get for the 18 years before they are adults. There is a reason that until very recently, Polio was a thing of the past. Now, it isn't because of lunatics like RFK, Jr.


Compare and contrast the outcome of states or countries with different policies and tell me the juice was worth the squeeze. Public trust in health organizations has been destroyed for marginal at best differences. Medical treatment should never be coerced as it drives further distrust.


Public trust was destroyed because Trump destroyed it with his nonsense. Cow paste, anyone?


Ivermectin is prescribed to humans in tablet form. It is not a "horse dewormer", it's sometimes used off label, but even on-label it IS prescribed as an anti-parasitic drug to humans because, guess what, genius, humans get parasites too. "science".


And if covid were a parasite, it might have helped.


Tell me you don't know anything about "off label" uses of approved medications without telling me. :roll: Many medications are used off label. for example, anti-malaria hydroxychloroquine is used for Lupus patients.
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