Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

Any word what the punishments-penalties will be for these protesting kids at the college?

Yes, some will be arrested and have it on their record forever but I hope the college will take serious action, expel kids or put negatives in their permanent record and suspend the kids for a semester only allowing them to return after they do community service, etc. and make them lose their tuition for the rioting period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another video of not funny because it’s so true. SNL last night. Alexis Vanessa Roberts.

https://x.com/nbcsnl/status/1786969830488232304?s=46

SNL is so lame and talentless these days. Trump even wins at humor and jokes.

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Anonymous wrote:Another video of not funny because it’s so true. SNL last night. Alexis Vanessa Roberts.

https://x.com/nbcsnl/status/1786969830488232304?s=46

This was surprisingly good.

At least half of their skits are good so this is not a surprise. Get your head out of your butt.

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Anonymous wrote:This is Oli London, so take it with a grain of salt, but supposedly a protestor wearing the Hamas flag headband at Stanford.

When I looked up the Hanas flag, that headband imagery isn’t what I saw. So, false.

It was real enough that Stanford turned photos of it to the FBI but continue your denialism.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/02/us-news/stanford-submits-deeply-disturbing-photo-of-campus-anti-israel-protester-wearing-hamas-headband-to-fbi/amp/

I’m not saying the headband doesn’t have a meaning that’s problematic (can’t say one way or another), I’m merely saying it didn’t match what I saw when I looked up the flag.

Also, the fact of Stanford reporting it doesn’t mean anything. All that required was someone like you contacting them, doing the usual “you’re not protecting Jewish students!” hysterics, and demanding they report it to the FBI.

DP. If a student had been wearing a KKK robe or other offensive costume, you'd be the one in hysterics. The PP was simply reporting something that happened. Anyone wearing Hamas garb absolutely should be reported to the FBI.

The PP is fine with Hamas insignia. Hence the disassembling.

PP

That’s weird. Why did you blatantly lie? The PP actually said that they didn’t even know how to identify the Hamas flag. So why would you lie and accuse them of being fine with it? Is lying your default mode? Really mind-boggling that lying is so just so natural for so many.

Nah. The PP is the one who first tried to pretend that wasn’t Hamas insignia, then when forced to concede the point because the FBI is now involved, scrambled to minimize it. One can reasonably assume that the PP is fine with Hamas insignia, based on her posts.

The prtoestors should have ejected this person. Makes them look awful.

They haven’t done that at any protests where the Hamas or Hezbollah insignia has shown up.

Of course, to be fair, given that I suspect a high percentage of these protestors could not name either the river or the sea they are chanting about, let alone find Gaza on a map, it’s probably a bridge too far to expect them to recognize either Hamas or Hezbollah iconography.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is almost 100% the Geritol crown rn.

You know, you keep frantically attempting ageist insults all over the place to desperately keep your propaganda bubble in place, but the fact is that the protestors are widely despised across all age groups. I’m no boomer, either. Just someone who sees how pathetic you are. When you have to resort to ageism to just pretend you’ve got an argument, you have nothing to stand on whatsoever.

You and your cohort have lost. You are disliked, have alienated most Americans, have managed to do nothing but drive support away from Gaza, have given the Republicans a gigantic electoral gift, and have largely managed to convince vast swaths of the electorate that you are all entitled nutcases. No amount of ageist insults can stop that truth from spreading at this point.

The side opposed to Israel’s actions and calling from an immediate ceasefire on humanitarian grounds is already starting from the high ground of having just about every other nation in the world, save the U.S., in full accord with their position. At this point, Israel and the U.S. are isolated on that front.

DP. I find it beyond bizarre that you and the people you're defending (pro-Palestinian protesters) haven't called on HAMAS to step up, return the hostages, and agree to a ceasefire. Why is that?

NP. I will tell you why I don’t call on Hamas to do anything. It’s because I simply have zero expectation that they care about what I or the American govt say. They are a terrorist organization. In fact, they may draw strength from US calls for returning hostages etc.

I still harbor hope that the Israelis are persuadable that their actions are wrong and that the lives of Palestinians in Gaza matter. And that they do not wish to continue the horrific destruction they are unleashing currently. And I would like my govt to pressure Israel with diplomacy (like they may be doing) and funding (conditioning of aide) to behave differently.

The US power structure is aligned closer with Israel than the Palestinian people (congress, the WH, the State Dept, wealthy donors). The protesters are railing (ineffectively it seems) against the power structure as they have through time. Why would you think calling on Hamas to return the hostages (which anyone of good conscience must want) would require a protest in the US?

Why do you think these protestors are calling for peace? A good number of them think the two-state solution is Zionist. The videos I see do not seem to indicate any willingness to co-exist with Israel (hence the videos of protesters tearing down Israeli flags and some of the chants). Objectively I think it’s hard to argue that the protestors are pro-peace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any word what the punishments-penalties will be for these protesting kids at the college?

Yes, some will be arrested and have it on their record forever but I hope the college will take serious action, expel kids or put negatives in their permanent record and suspend the kids for a semester only allowing them to return after they do community service, etc. and make them lose their tuition for the rioting period.

Ooh, ooh me me! I think we should tar and feather them. Or, we could put their names in Biden's little black book like big brother does in China, or send them to the gulag like North Korea does. What about make them wear a scarlet R?

Oh, you cheered on the rioters in the Boston Tea Party. Dang it.

Well, I guess we'll just have to leave it to the history book writers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any word what the punishments-penalties will be for these protesting kids at the college?

Yes, some will be arrested and have it on their record forever but I hope the college will take serious action, expel kids or put negatives in their permanent record and suspend the kids for a semester only allowing them to return after they do community service, etc. and make them lose their tuition for the rioting period.

Pretty vindictive, aren’t you?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is almost 100% the Geritol crown rn.

You know, you keep frantically attempting ageist insults all over the place to desperately keep your propaganda bubble in place, but the fact is that the protestors are widely despised across all age groups. I’m no boomer, either. Just someone who sees how pathetic you are. When you have to resort to ageism to just pretend you’ve got an argument, you have nothing to stand on whatsoever.

You and your cohort have lost. You are disliked, have alienated most Americans, have managed to do nothing but drive support away from Gaza, have given the Republicans a gigantic electoral gift, and have largely managed to convince vast swaths of the electorate that you are all entitled nutcases. No amount of ageist insults can stop that truth from spreading at this point.

The side opposed to Israel’s actions and calling from an immediate ceasefire on humanitarian grounds is already starting from the high ground of having just about every other nation in the world, save the U.S., in full accord with their position. At this point, Israel and the U.S. are isolated on that front.

DP. I find it beyond bizarre that you and the people you're defending (pro-Palestinian protesters) haven't called on HAMAS to step up, return the hostages, and agree to a ceasefire. Why is that?

NP. I will tell you why I don’t call on Hamas to do anything. It’s because I simply have zero expectation that they care about what I or the American govt say. They are a terrorist organization. In fact, they may draw strength from US calls for returning hostages etc.

I still harbor hope that the Israelis are persuadable that their actions are wrong and that the lives of Palestinians in Gaza matter. And that they do not wish to continue the horrific destruction they are unleashing currently. And I would like my govt to pressure Israel with diplomacy (like they may be doing) and funding (conditioning of aide) to behave differently.

The US power structure is aligned closer with Israel than the Palestinian people (congress, the WH, the State Dept, wealthy donors). The protesters are railing (ineffectively it seems) against the power structure as they have through time. Why would you think calling on Hamas to return the hostages (which anyone of good conscience must want) would require a protest in the US?

They should care what the US says because the US provides aid to Gaza and also because the US has at least some influence on Israel. Or used to anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is almost 100% the Geritol crown rn.

You know, you keep frantically attempting ageist insults all over the place to desperately keep your propaganda bubble in place, but the fact is that the protestors are widely despised across all age groups. I’m no boomer, either. Just someone who sees how pathetic you are. When you have to resort to ageism to just pretend you’ve got an argument, you have nothing to stand on whatsoever.

You and your cohort have lost. You are disliked, have alienated most Americans, have managed to do nothing but drive support away from Gaza, have given the Republicans a gigantic electoral gift, and have largely managed to convince vast swaths of the electorate that you are all entitled nutcases. No amount of ageist insults can stop that truth from spreading at this point.

The side opposed to Israel’s actions and calling from an immediate ceasefire on humanitarian grounds is already starting from the high ground of having just about every other nation in the world, save the U.S., in full accord with their position. At this point, Israel and the U.S. are isolated on that front.

DP. I find it beyond bizarre that you and the people you're defending (pro-Palestinian protesters) haven't called on HAMAS to step up, return the hostages, and agree to a ceasefire. Why is that?

NP. I will tell you why I don’t call on Hamas to do anything. It’s because I simply have zero expectation that they care about what I or the American govt say. They are a terrorist organization. In fact, they may draw strength from US calls for returning hostages etc.

I still harbor hope that the Israelis are persuadable that their actions are wrong and that the lives of Palestinians in Gaza matter. And that they do not wish to continue the horrific destruction they are unleashing currently. And I would like my govt to pressure Israel with diplomacy (like they may be doing) and funding (conditioning of aide) to behave differently.

The US power structure is aligned closer with Israel than the Palestinian people (congress, the WH, the State Dept, wealthy donors). The protesters are railing (ineffectively it seems) against the power structure as they have through time. Why would you think calling on Hamas to return the hostages (which anyone of good conscience must want) would require a protest in the US?

Why do you think these protestors are calling for peace? A good number of them think the two-state solution is Zionist. The videos I see do not seem to indicate any willingness to co-exist with Israel (hence the videos of protesters tearing down Israeli flags and some of the chants). Objectively I think it’s hard to argue that the protestors are pro-peace.

Yes the pro Israel groups and the Israelis have no intention of a two state solution. It is a hard red line in Israel. Why are the Israelis so hate filled that they will not allow the Palestinians to exist? They have assassinated one PM and will do it again vs give up any land or allow the Palestinians state.
The pro Israeli protesters making their racist chants and screaming all Arabs(not just Palestinians) must be killed are just so sick.

[Anonymous]

Jeff may give me another time out for posting this. But yeah - calling for eliminating Hillel is antisemitic. Yes, it is.

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Jeff may give me another time out for posting this. But yeah - calling for eliminating Hillel is antisemitic. Yes, it is.

The call is for local chapters to dissociate from Hillel International not to eliminate Hillel on campus, but of course there is no interest in reporting that accurately.

It’s no different than national fraternities dissociating from local chapters or vice versa when one of them is out of step with the university’s policies.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is almost 100% the Geritol crown rn.

You know, you keep frantically attempting ageist insults all over the place to desperately keep your propaganda bubble in place, but the fact is that the protestors are widely despised across all age groups. I’m no boomer, either. Just someone who sees how pathetic you are. When you have to resort to ageism to just pretend you’ve got an argument, you have nothing to stand on whatsoever.

You and your cohort have lost. You are disliked, have alienated most Americans, have managed to do nothing but drive support away from Gaza, have given the Republicans a gigantic electoral gift, and have largely managed to convince vast swaths of the electorate that you are all entitled nutcases. No amount of ageist insults can stop that truth from spreading at this point.

The side opposed to Israel’s actions and calling from an immediate ceasefire on humanitarian grounds is already starting from the high ground of having just about every other nation in the world, save the U.S., in full accord with their position. At this point, Israel and the U.S. are isolated on that front.

DP. I find it beyond bizarre that you and the people you're defending (pro-Palestinian protesters) haven't called on HAMAS to step up, return the hostages, and agree to a ceasefire. Why is that?

NP. I will tell you why I don’t call on Hamas to do anything. It’s because I simply have zero expectation that they care about what I or the American govt say. They are a terrorist organization. In fact, they may draw strength from US calls for returning hostages etc.

I still harbor hope that the Israelis are persuadable that their actions are wrong and that the lives of Palestinians in Gaza matter. And that they do not wish to continue the horrific destruction they are unleashing currently. And I would like my govt to pressure Israel with diplomacy (like they may be doing) and funding (conditioning of aide) to behave differently.

The US power structure is aligned closer with Israel than the Palestinian people (congress, the WH, the State Dept, wealthy donors). The protesters are railing (ineffectively it seems) against the power structure as they have through time. Why would you think calling on Hamas to return the hostages (which anyone of good conscience must want) would require a protest in the US?

The protests are directly organized by people with connections to Palestine. They absolutely could call for Hamas to lay down their weapons and return the hostages, and work on a 2-state solution. But they affirmatively praise “resistance” and call for “from the river to the sea.” what you don’t get is that this is VERY much expressly pro-Palestine winning the war, not pro-peace.

Were pre 10/7 protests against Hamas effective in Gaza? Again, Hamas (or any terrorist organization) is not persuadable by protests in the US in ways that a democratically elected govt with close ties to the US may reasonably be expected to.

For Hamas to lose the de facto support of the Palestinian people would require that 1. The Palestinians believe that they can get their voices heard without the bomb throwers and 2. It becomes worse for a family or individual to support Hamas than not.
Neither of those two conditions are true right now. And it is the way that the troubles in Ireland quieted down.

So you’re saying the US protestors affirmatively support Hamas?

[Anonymous]

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Jeff may give me another time out for posting this. But yeah - calling for eliminating Hillel is antisemitic. Yes, it is.

I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jeff may give me another time out for posting this. But yeah - calling for eliminating Hillel is antisemitic. Yes, it is.

The call is for local chapters to dissociate from Hillel International not to eliminate Hillel on campus, but of course there is no interest in reporting that accurately.

It’s no different than national fraternities dissociating from local chapters or vice versa when one of them is out of step with the university’s policies.

Why should non-Jewish students have any say in whether a Jewish student group is affiliated with a national group?

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Jeff may give me another time out for posting this. But yeah - calling for eliminating Hillel is antisemitic. Yes, it is.

These dumb*sses are calling for restricting academic freedom (academic boycot) and an “end to academic repression” in the same documented. I also don’t think it’s permissible under civil rights for a public university to discriminate based on national origin. they could call off specific parternships based on the subject matter, but they cannot end all activities on the basis of nationality alone. But hey, consistentcy and logical thinking are not their strong suits.