Safety in schools

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like this is mostly fear mongering because I'm just not seeing it.

Nothing ever happens until it happens to you.

Students complain of inadequate supervision.

Supervisors say they are rent seeing anything.

That's what students are complaining about!

Sounds more like fearmongering than anything.

Not even close. The safety situation in high schools is dire and staff, students, and parents are right to sound the alarm.

Not sure what you're talking about.

Pretty clear that the lack of safety and security in secondary schools has reached a crisis point, and this has nothing to do with political agendas, it has to do with safety. Assault, drugs, weapons, and intruders are way more common than is publized. I teach in a DCC HS, do you?

If your want to be honest, this is being hyped by posters with a political agenda, and this is not accurate.

You have to be some kind of scum to dismiss the firsthand experience of a teacher and accuse them of being motivated by a political agenda and not accurate.

You're dismissing my firsthand experience... People with a political agenda making false claims aren't credible.

WTOP not credible now? Would they report on something that wasn't credible?

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/04/why-is-nothing-being-done-concerns-grow-about-drug-use-fighting-in-montgomery-co-school-bathrooms/

An article which merely rehashes the same vague concerns being hyped here by far-right activists isn't really all that meaningful.

I’m the liberal teacher who posted above about my first-hand experiences with school violence.

I was immediately dismissed as far-right.

You do a disservice to your own cause when you assume all dissenting voices are simply far-right activists. If liberals (as opposed to progressives) are “far-right” to you, then I’m left wondering why you can’t see how distorted your thinking really is.

[Anonymous]

Another one today?https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200844.page

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https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200844.page

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Should schools just go virtual?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like this is mostly fear mongering because I'm just not seeing it.

Nothing ever happens until it happens to you.

Students complain of inadequate supervision.

Supervisors say they are rent seeing anything.

That's what students are complaining about!

Sounds more like fearmongering than anything.

Not even close. The safety situation in high schools is dire and staff, students, and parents are right to sound the alarm.

Not sure what you're talking about.

Pretty clear that the lack of safety and security in secondary schools has reached a crisis point, and this has nothing to do with political agendas, it has to do with safety. Assault, drugs, weapons, and intruders are way more common than is publized. I teach in a DCC HS, do you?

If your want to be honest, this is being hyped by posters with a political agenda, and this is not accurate.

You have to be some kind of scum to dismiss the firsthand experience of a teacher and accuse them of being motivated by a political agenda and not accurate.

You're dismissing my firsthand experience... People with a political agenda making false claims aren't credible.

Teacher here with plenty of firsthand experience with dangerous situations in schools. I’ve been shoved. I’ve broken up fights. I’ve dealt with knives.

Can you tell me what firsthand experience you have that proves this is merely some political agenda?

And fwiw, I’m as liberal as people come.

Are you fighting for metal detectors that would prevent weapons in school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like this is mostly fear mongering because I'm just not seeing it.

Nothing ever happens until it happens to you.

Students complain of inadequate supervision.

Supervisors say they are rent seeing anything.

That's what students are complaining about!

Sounds more like fearmongering than anything.

Not even close. The safety situation in high schools is dire and staff, students, and parents are right to sound the alarm.

Not sure what you're talking about.

Pretty clear that the lack of safety and security in secondary schools has reached a crisis point, and this has nothing to do with political agendas, it has to do with safety. Assault, drugs, weapons, and intruders are way more common than is publized. I teach in a DCC HS, do you?

If your want to be honest, this is being hyped by posters with a political agenda, and this is not accurate.

You have to be some kind of scum to dismiss the firsthand experience of a teacher and accuse them of being motivated by a political agenda and not accurate.

You're dismissing my firsthand experience... People with a political agenda making false claims aren't credible.

Teacher here with plenty of firsthand experience with dangerous situations in schools. I’ve been shoved. I’ve broken up fights. I’ve dealt with knives.

Can you tell me what firsthand experience you have that proves this is merely some political agenda?

And fwiw, I’m as liberal as people come.

Are you fighting for metal detectors that would prevent weapons in school?

What I am fighting for is real consequences. Including suspension and expulsion. With a fair but high standard.

[Anonymous]

Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

Out of control is the plan of the higher ups. They aren’t stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.