Safety in schools

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.

You can't blame Admin. Their hands are tied. They take orders from Central Office. They are directed not to enforce rules in order to be 'equitable'. They are directed to implement Restorative Justice practices instead of punishments. Admin is in a tough spot in MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.

You can't blame Admin. Their hands are tied. They take orders from Central Office. They are directed not to enforce rules in order to be 'equitable'. They are directed to implement Restorative Justice practices instead of punishments. Admin is in a tough spot in MCPS.

Chris Cram says claims that admins' hands are tied by CO is "nonsense": https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-mcps-clarksburg-high-school-increases-security-after-fights-brawls-spark-concerns-among-parents-students-community-safety

There also have been claims by teachers that student discipline reforms do not allow administrators to discipline effectively.

Christopher Cram, director office of communications at MCPS shared the following statement with 7News:

“This is nonsense. Discipline is applied after an investigation per the MCPS Student Code of Conduct and following state codes.

Per the memorandum of understanding with the police, fights are a matter of discipline and, therefore, governed by the MCPS Student Code of Conduct, following state suspension codes and the 5-level progressive scale of discipline. There are 5 levels of progressive discipline for fighting. Beyond that, discipline is outlined for "serious bodily injury" --- for any injury caused intentionally, discipline begins at level 4.

All schools are trained, and staffed and have access to central services to support them within these instances occur.”

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.

You can't blame Admin. Their hands are tied. They take orders from Central Office. They are directed not to enforce rules in order to be 'equitable'. They are directed to implement Restorative Justice practices instead of punishments. Admin is in a tough spot in MCPS.

If only they would make school more like kid prison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.

You can't blame Admin. Their hands are tied. They take orders from Central Office. They are directed not to enforce rules in order to be 'equitable'. They are directed to implement Restorative Justice practices instead of punishments. Admin is in a tough spot in MCPS.

Chris Cram says claims that admins' hands are tied by CO is "nonsense": https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-mcps-clarksburg-high-school-increases-security-after-fights-brawls-spark-concerns-among-parents-students-community-safety

There also have been claims by teachers that student discipline reforms do not allow administrators to discipline effectively.

Christopher Cram, director office of communications at MCPS shared the following statement with 7News:

“This is nonsense. Discipline is applied after an investigation per the MCPS Student Code of Conduct and following state codes.

Per the memorandum of understanding with the police, fights are a matter of discipline and, therefore, governed by the MCPS Student Code of Conduct, following state suspension codes and the 5-level progressive scale of discipline. There are 5 levels of progressive discipline for fighting. Beyond that, discipline is outlined for "serious bodily injury" --- for any injury caused intentionally, discipline begins at level 4.

All schools are trained, and staffed and have access to central services to support them within these instances occur.”

That's pretty much his job to say that. Look at his job title.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.

You can't blame Admin. Their hands are tied. They take orders from Central Office. They are directed not to enforce rules in order to be 'equitable'. They are directed to implement Restorative Justice practices instead of punishments. Admin is in a tough spot in MCPS.

Yes, you can as they just play the blame game and aren't consistent with the rules they make for their school. The kids know it and act accordingly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.

You can't blame Admin. Their hands are tied. They take orders from Central Office. They are directed not to enforce rules in order to be 'equitable'. They are directed to implement Restorative Justice practices instead of punishments. Admin is in a tough spot in MCPS.

If only they would make school more like kid prison.

If that's what it takes to get the schools under control, I'm all for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.

You can't blame Admin. Their hands are tied. They take orders from Central Office. They are directed not to enforce rules in order to be 'equitable'. They are directed to implement Restorative Justice practices instead of punishments. Admin is in a tough spot in MCPS.

If only they would make school more like kid prison.

If that's what it takes to get the schools under control, I'm all for it.

I personally think they're fine now. Why get all bent out of shape over a few kids vaping?

[Anonymous]

As a teacher it is sometimes amusing to see admin talk to high schoolers like 2nd graders because of all the restrictions on accountability.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. This^ they need to enforce detention and have REAL consequences. It is a disservice to the student and community when they are not held to higher standards and face repercussion for breaking the rules. The drugs and fights in the boys bathrooms are out of control. How can we expect change if the schools do not change their reactions to this behavior.

This. Over and over again, this is what needs to happen. Whether it's for graffiti (anti-semetic or not), whether it's for vaping or drugs, whether it's for weapons.

Implementing metal detectors, or re-writing the Code of Conduct will do NOTHING to fix the issues until there are real and enforceable consequences for bad behavior.

Just rename the bathrooms the student lounge and consider the problem solved.

So, move the toilets and hand washing stations to elsewhere in the building.

I’ve actually suggested this in an only half joking way. I feel like back in the 80s there were acknowledged spots where kids that wanted to do drugs would hang out. We need a spot with no cameras where the kids that don’t care about achopl can engage in all this activity that is not the bathroom. So people can use the bathroom to pee.

Put the students engaging in non-bathroom stuff OUTSIDE. Let them freeze get hot who cares. Let the students who want and need to use the bathroom for what it is intended for use it without worrying!

Yep. MCPS doesn’t allow admin to enforce the rules anyway. Just quit the charade and let the kids vape and smoke weed OUTSIDE. Re-open the bathrooms for people who want to use them as intended.

Admin need to grow up and stop being these kids friends and regardless enforce the rules.

You can't blame Admin. Their hands are tied. They take orders from Central Office. They are directed not to enforce rules in order to be 'equitable'. They are directed to implement Restorative Justice practices instead of punishments. Admin is in a tough spot in MCPS.

Chris Cram says claims that admins' hands are tied by CO is "nonsense": https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-mcps-clarksburg-high-school-increases-security-after-fights-brawls-spark-concerns-among-parents-students-community-safety

There also have been claims by teachers that student discipline reforms do not allow administrators to discipline effectively.

Christopher Cram, director office of communications at MCPS shared the following statement with 7News:

“This is nonsense. Discipline is applied after an investigation per the MCPS Student Code of Conduct and following state codes.

Per the memorandum of understanding with the police, fights are a matter of discipline and, therefore, governed by the MCPS Student Code of Conduct, following state suspension codes and the 5-level progressive scale of discipline. There are 5 levels of progressive discipline for fighting. Beyond that, discipline is outlined for "serious bodily injury" --- for any injury caused intentionally, discipline begins at level 4.

All schools are trained, and staffed and have access to central services to support them within these instances occur.”

crummy communications chris

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher it is sometimes amusing to see admin talk to high schoolers like 2nd graders because of all the restrictions on accountability.

Awww

[Anonymous]

May 1 article:

'Rampant' drug use raises concern at Kennedy High School in Montgomery County

https://www.wjla.com/news/local/drugs-kennedy-high-school-montgomery-county-public-schools-board-education-hearing-testified-david-gebler-policy-change-concerns-crime

Weird article. Just a brief synopsis of events that already had coverage April 11

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:May 1 article:

'Rampant' drug use raises concern at Kennedy High School in Montgomery County

https://www.wjla.com/news/local/drugs-kennedy-high-school-montgomery-county-public-schools-board-education-hearing-testified-david-gebler-policy-change-concerns-crime

Weird article. Just a brief synopsis of events that already had coverage April 11

Agreed. There was no new information in this report so not sure why WJLA put it out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:May 1 article:

'Rampant' drug use raises concern at Kennedy High School in Montgomery County

https://www.wjla.com/news/local/drugs-kennedy-high-school-montgomery-county-public-schools-board-education-hearing-testified-david-gebler-policy-change-concerns-crime

Weird article. Just a brief synopsis of events that already had coverage April 11

Agreed. There was no new information in this report so not sure why WJLA put it out.

Click bait, silly.

[Anonymous]

We have several students coming to school each day high as a kite and strongly smelling of weed. We are told to do nothing. They cannot be searched unless we visibly see weed on them.

[Anonymous]

Teachers really have to watch their reporting because they might lose their jobs as bad classroom managers