TJ admissions change from Merit to Essay impact to Asian American Students

[Anonymous]

So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Essay writing is an academic task. And knowing how to express yourself in a compelling way through writing is actually a skill that translates into the workplace, while test taking doesn't.

Even if academic English writing were employed as the objective selection criterion, the representation of Asian students would have surpassed 73%, not fallen below it. SOL English scores, AP English Language/Literature scores, TJ publication artifacts, and every other objective piece of evidence all indicate a relatively higher level of English language proficiency, not just advanced Math, among TJ Asian students and likely the TJ Asian applicant pool.

ELA tests measure vocabulary knowledge and text comprehension. I'm talking about creative, compelling writing that shows a unique perspective of the student. In this new landscape, parents should start practicing creative writing with their kids so they have a better chance of standing out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why it happened to diversify and create equality.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

Wow, it may be a slip, but exactly does a school system create equality? Changing the standards for admission may allow some heretofore students in and keep others out, but some students will always perform better than others. There is no such thing as "equality" in performance at TJ or elsewhere.

Equity politics begins and ends with giveaways. The School Board can hand out a TJ offer to the underqualified under the guise of a reward, but they cannot compel a student to study after gaining admission to TJ.

Stop trashing these kids to push your politics. It's disgusting. All of the admitted students were qualified for TJ.

The fact that under-qualified students were being admitted was reported by the principal who mentioned "9th grade students scoring below proficient on the initial Math Inventory", were being jump-started with ALEKS remedial in the third month itself. If admissions was merit based, why would remedial math be needed at the school start?

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/VAEDUFCPS/bulletins/38d509c

They are all well qualified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

The average number of Asian students per admitted class for the 10 years prior to the change was 330. The average since the change was 321.

So, on average, there are 9 fewer Asian kids per class after the change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

The average number of Asian students per admitted class for the 10 years prior to the change was 330. The average since the change was 321.

So, on average, there are 9 fewer Asian kids per class after the change.

race based selections and racial quota management behind those numbers is concerning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s why it happened to diversify and create equality.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

Wow, it may be a slip, but exactly does a school system create equality? Changing the standards for admission may allow some heretofore students in and keep others out, but some students will always perform better than others. There is no such thing as "equality" in performance at TJ or elsewhere.

Equity politics begins and ends with giveaways. The School Board can hand out a TJ offer to the underqualified under the guise of a reward, but they cannot compel a student to study after gaining admission to TJ.

Stop trashing these kids to push your politics. It's disgusting. All of the admitted students were qualified for TJ.

The fact that under-qualified students were being admitted was reported by the principal who mentioned "9th grade students scoring below proficient on the initial Math Inventory", were being jump-started with ALEKS remedial in the third month itself. If admissions was merit based, why would remedial math be needed at the school start?

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/VAEDUFCPS/bulletins/38d509c

They are all well qualified.

In TJ principal's own words : " below proficient "

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

The average number of Asian students per admitted class for the 10 years prior to the change was 330. The average since the change was 321.

So, on average, there are 9 fewer Asian kids per class after the change.

race based selections and racial quota management behind those numbers is concerning.

There is no racial quota or race-based selections.

Stop spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

The average number of Asian students per admitted class for the 10 years prior to the change was 330. The average since the change was 321.

So, on average, there are 9 fewer Asian kids per class after the change.

race based selections and racial quota management behind those numbers is concerning.

There is no racial quota or race-based selections.

Stop spreading misinformation.

FCPS reserved spots for every middle school whether those kids were qualified or not. Those middle schools have different demographics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ used to be the number 1 ranked high school in the entire USA.

Last year it dropped to number 5, following the school board’s politically-driven changes to the admissions policy.

This year TJ has dropped even further, to number 14.

It is sad to see how the school board worked to ruin TJ, in the foolish pursuit of “equity” (which won’t work and will only make things worse).

With no mechanism to evaluate applicants, they dont know who they are admitting among the Asian students. The previous admissions process ensured top caliber Asian students only were admitted, not its a mixed bag.

Exactly, it’s basically a lottery for Asian students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

The average number of Asian students per admitted class for the 10 years prior to the change was 330. The average since the change was 321.

So, on average, there are 9 fewer Asian kids per class after the change.

By dropping important information from the test and teachers’ recommendation, that 321 is way weaker than that 330 in the old system

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

The average number of Asian students per admitted class for the 10 years prior to the change was 330. The average since the change was 321.

So, on average, there are 9 fewer Asian kids per class after the change.

By dropping important information from the test and teachers’ recommendation, that 321 is way weaker than that 330 in the old system

It's been proven that teacher recs are too often racially biased so they had no choice but to remove them.

The test also was rigged since too many students with means were simply buying the answers from various prep centers.

The old system was toxic and broken.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

The average number of Asian students per admitted class for the 10 years prior to the change was 330. The average since the change was 321.

So, on average, there are 9 fewer Asian kids per class after the change.

By dropping important information from the test and teachers’ recommendation, that 321 is way weaker than that 330 in the old system

It's been proven that teacher recs are too often racially biased so they had no choice but to remove them.

The test also was rigged since too many students with means were simply buying the answers from various prep centers.

The old system was toxic and broken.

If the bolded is true, then it's odd that college admissions still relies so heavily on teacher recommendations. The same is true for every elite summer program or grad program. Heck, TJ still heavily relies on teacher recommendations for its own froshmore admissions. They're even the primary factor in FCPS for AAP eligibility.

The reality, though, is that FCPS removed teacher recommendations because they weren't going to give them the racial demographics that they desired.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So 75ish less Asian students are getting in each year now? How did the rest of the population feel about having such a large majority before? I remember reading that they were very uncomfortable. Maybe they should have changed the mission of TJ to diversity it better rather than the application.

Rest of the the population celebrated the Asian majority at TJ since they reinforced TJ's standing. It is the equity politicians that went about tinkering with TJ. The 75 Asian students that are denied their TJ spots, can easily handle the base school rigor. The same cant be said of the 75 replacement Algebra 1 students that are suffering at TJ with remedial math and playing constant catch-up.

The average number of Asian students per admitted class for the 10 years prior to the change was 330. The average since the change was 321.

So, on average, there are 9 fewer Asian kids per class after the change.

By dropping important information from the test and teachers’ recommendation, that 321 is way weaker than that 330 in the old system

It's been proven that teacher recs are too often racially biased so they had no choice but to remove them.

The test also was rigged since too many students with means were simply buying the answers from various prep centers.

The old system was toxic and broken.

what do you mean simply buying the answers? From where?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

There is a history of legitimizing discrimination against Asian Americans. What is laughable is there are insecure asians who support discrimination against their own race.
https://exhibits.stanford.edu/riseup/feature/timeline-of-systemic-racism-against-aapi