Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.



Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.



Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.


Depending on major some may be higher in rank. For instance anyone SFS at Georgetown is Tier 1. It's program is rated top in the US, 1A.
Anonymous
Can everyone offering tiers of eliteness admit that they're pulling them from their respective fundaments?

It's fine that you have such a regimented hierarchy in your head (well, the specificity of these lists strikes me as a little weird), but let's not pretend that such lists have any objective meaning for anyone but the particular individual serving them up. In reality, very few of you know much about the specific schools in your lists in relation to one another beyond the fact that they've probably previously appeared in other ranked lists.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:One more; I did the work for you all by finding other junkie posts about this:

If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW
report


When looking at the recent caliber of students going to these schools, I don't quite agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can everyone offering tiers of eliteness admit that they're pulling them from their respective fundaments?

It's fine that you have such a regimented hierarchy in your head (well, the specificity of these lists strikes me as a little weird), but let's not pretend that such lists have any objective meaning for anyone but the particular individual serving them up. In reality, very few of you know much about the specific schools in your lists in relation to one another beyond the fact that they've probably previously appeared in other ranked lists.



For sure. But at least a couple of these lists are more thoughtful than USNWR. None of this is meant to be taken seriously
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.



Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

Rice, Vandy, Pomona, Berkeley, and Notre Dame need to come down 1 OR UCLA, Emory, Georgetown Swarthmore need to come up1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:1)Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech, Northwestern, Brown

2) Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst, Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley, WashU, CMU

3) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard, UNC, Boston College, Vassar, Bowdoin, W&L, Davidson, GaTech, Hamilton

I removed Wake and W&M, as they're a tier below.

+1000 DC wants to boost dmv schools. This is the best one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.



Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

Hmm. That's a pretty biased ranking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.



Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.
BOGUS

Completely bogus, biased and baseless rating.. its just a fancy doodling

Where is selectivity or the acceptance rate.. thats one of the most important factor. Any univ / college that has acceptance rate greater than 15% cant be called as elite.

Another, over all endowment and endowment per student.. Any college / univ with less than $1Mn per student endowment cant be called as elite.
Anonymous
Just to clarify, I posted these rankings last night from other DC Urban threads over the last few years. I have twins graduating an Ivies this year so I have followed for five years or so. This discussion has come up a lot. They were different "elite" rankings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.



Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.


This is really good, and though it is splittling hairs a lot, seems generally accurate especially the Tier 1 top10 and its subgroups. I agree with all but 3A/B: would move Emory to 3B and move WashU/CMU up to 3B. All based on slightly higher caliber kids admitted from many VA privates and public magnets to WashU over Emory, and CMU needs a boost because of the STEM greatness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.





Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.


This is really good, and though it is splittling hairs a lot, seems generally accurate especially the Tier 1 top10 and its subgroups. I agree with all but 3A/B: would move Emory to 3B and move WashU/CMU up to 3B. All based on slightly higher caliber kids admitted from many VA privates and public magnets to WashU over Emory, and CMU needs a boost because of the STEM greatness.


^oops move WashU/CMU up to 3A
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Top 25 Univ & Top 15 LACs. Period.


Top 3 (maybe 5) LACs
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.



Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.


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