1B is totally out of whack. Yale is 1B, Duke is 2A or 2B |
This is a good list |
This is such a weird list Undergraduate Tiers 1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton 1B) Caltech, Columbia, Penn (mainly bc of Wharton) 2A) Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst 2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Swarthmore 3A) Notre Dame, Emory, UCLA, Wellesley, Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard 3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson |
In hiring, we would never make this many delineations. Sure, there are generally recognized top schools (Harvard, MIT, Stanford . . .), but it is pretty much shades of gray as you go on. |
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Caltech Columbia Penn Chicago Duke Northwestern Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins Amherst Williams Swarthmore Pomona Berkeley |
Exactly this. Nobody delineates between a Notre Dame from Duke for example. |
What the hell does this even mean, though? I would never assume 2As are better educated/more capable than 2Bs or 3As. I certainly wouldn't assume a UCLA grad is better educated/more capable than a W&L grad, for instance. |
Nothing. It means nothing. There are so many bright, motivated, capable kids out there who want to go to great colleges. This is all so silly. |
The truly elite don’t care what random strangers think is elite. But don’t take my word for it.
If you are concerned with prestige within academia, look at USNWR. But even within academia that’s taken with more than a few grains of salt. |
+100 follow the money |
This would remove schools like Duke. |
Harvard
Stanford MIT Yale Princeton Caltech Columbia Chicago Northwestern Duke Brown Cornell Johns Hopkins Dartmouth |
Good list. |
I like these two parameters, that's truly elite consideration. So what are the colleges according to these two parameters? |
There are many excellent universities, but I limit this definition to the T15 schools (Ivy + Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke and Johns Hopkins) + Amherst Williams Swarthmore
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