14y old has been asking for a “Quincenera” (sp?) party since last year (at 13).
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It’s not cultural appropriation. Even if it wasn’t celebrated in Brazil, which it is, enough with the cultural appropriation. It was originally a Mexican tradition and it spread to other countries. My sister in law is from Puerto Rico and she is more excited about this than her daughter. She’s been making decorations all year, she loves crafts, and the family still in Puerto Rico will come over. They’ll rent a hall, music, food, the usual. It will be my first time going to one. If it was me I’d make it as small as possible. Invite some friends, close family and have a party with sparkly party clothes on. |
Anonymous
You’re wrong. Brazil is part of Latin America. Just because their were colonized by Portugal and not Spain doesn’t make them any less Latin American. Brazil sees becoming 15 yrs old the same as other Latin American countries . It’s a time of coming of age. They call it, baile de debutantes, or more commonly festa de quinze anos. OP, you can learn about it and teach your daughter about it. I think it’s a great idea. Just make an affordable budget. |
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NP. My DD is younger but this is a hot topic in our house. We are Catholic and where we live the mass/party combo is very common and not dissimilar to First Communion celebrations. Many of her friends have older sisters who have done them, and they all have different backgrounds but the common denominator is being Catholic. This is further confused by Filipinas where we live doing debuts and some of them switching to quinces instead. We are a mixed asian-white family and adjacent but not part of all of this except the catholic part.
I'm not sure if I'll let her do one. They're common enough where I live among all kinds of girls that I'm struggling to decide if it's ok for her to have one. |
Anonymous
And OP doesn’t know about either of those things or even how to spell them. Why throw a cultural party when the cultural aspect doesn’t mean anything to you? Just throw the kid a birthday party and buy her a “bawl gown.” |
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I am Mexican American. Grew up in a majority Mexican American city where quinces are big business. I did not have one. Not everyone does. If you don't know what it is and have to look it up on the internet, do not embark on that journey.
I didn't have a Korean doljanchi for my kid's 1st birthday and it'd have been weird if I did. |
Anonymous
| Brasileira here too. Growing up where I lived-at 15, kids would pick either a ball type party or to go to Disney. I have seen reels from Brazil on social media (Insta) of huge parties with ball gowns for Festa de 15 anos (the Brazilian version of a quince). Like nothing we had growing up. So maybe o povo decided to join in OP? |
Anonymous
Uh yeah. I’m Brazilian and girls have been having big parties when turning 15 for ages. We just don’t call it the same. 
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Anonymous
Right, so you don’t have quinceañeras. |
Anonymous
It’s the same thing. Huge ball gown, big party, waltz. But no it wouldn’t be called a quinceañera bc we speak Portuguese. Are you Latina btw? Bc I find that the people who scream cultural appropriate the most are usually American. |
Anonymous
DP. But I think that's the point. Why doesn't OP just have a big 15th birthday party for her daughter instead of asking about a quince? she doesn' have to call it anything. Just plan the party, go all out, do what you want, and invite people. She doesn't have to explicitly invite people to a quinceañera. It can just be a 15th bday party if she wants. |
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I've attended one for the daughter of my Puerto Rican assistant.
The family (particularly the Dad) planned the event for over a year. The daughter wore two ball gowns. The Dad made all of the decorations. They held the event in the church event hall. It was fun and beautiful. |
Anonymous
I’m Brazilian and I think OP is full of it. “Festa de quinze” is a big deal in Brazil. It’s the coming of age milestone year much like sweet 16 in the United States. |
Anonymous
It’s not the same as you admit. And at this point you can take your bigoted self out of here. You can be Hispanic AND American. |
Anonymous
We went for peak bloom and my tweens were obsessing over the group of kids in their beautiful ball gowns at the mall. We saw a few girls near the WW2 memorial, FDR memorial and opposite the Jefferson memorial. One of them even had a bunch of young boys all dressed up carrying her train. The girls looked gorgeous and "fancy". Do people hire these gowns and also hire professional photographers and makeup artists for mall quince photoshoots as a group to reduce costs? |
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| I'm Mexican American from South Texas. I was in 5-6 of these as a teen and my son and nephews have been in many as escorts to the court of 15 girls who wear matching dresses and do a special dance. (I have never in over 50 years see the kids waltz!) A real quince is different from just a big party. There is a church component to it that includes a Mass and the presentation of rose to la Virgen de Guadalupe. Priests will usually require that the girl be attending weekly Mass, youth ministry activities, and preparing for Confirmation. There are usually Padrinos, which are close family friends who "sponsor" various things that are presented to the girl at either the ceremony or the party afterwards like a rosary, a bible, a crown, a ring, etc... These days I've seen people doing some weird "first high heels" thing and "last doll" thing, which I find to be silly. Mariachis are expected, as is a full dinner, dancing, and a cake with 15 little dolls on it. |