Why do staunch republicans hate electric vehicles?

[Anonymous]

Because..

A. Republicans get money from the oil and gas industry
B Republicans deny climate change and environmental protection because they want industries to be able pollute as much as they want as long as they make money
C. EV s have been more practical in urban and suburban areas where people don’t vote for republicans, republicans really only control rural areas that have gas fueled trucks and cars
D. It part of the hate the libs crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservative here. I think hybrids make a lot more sense- no hatred for EVs other than I think they’ll have less penetration than people think, but time will tell.

I guess I took OP bait by responding

Hybrids DO make the most sense in exurban and rural areas where driving distances are longer and charging stations are fewer. In cities and close in suburbs, have all the EV’s you want. This whole thread is looney.

-a Trump supporter since 2014

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because it’s something Liberals are for so they are automatically against. 95% of Conservstivism/MAGAism is just being against the Libs.

This is the correct answer.

The only and correct answer.

[Anonymous]

Electric is coal, gas, oil and nuclear plus toxic battery waste and mining

Seems stupid.

[Anonymous]

Electric is coal, gas, oil and nuclear plus toxic battery waste and mining

I think that the argument for EVs is mostly that a) electricity can come from any of various sources (coal, natural gas, oil, nuclear, etc.) and thus is less subject to disruption than gasoline-based cars and that b) the electricity generation can take place outside of populated areas, keeping any pollution away from where people live and work.

The arguments against them seem to be mostly from people whose use cases don't fit (for example, I live downtown and park on the street, where there is no charging facility), or from people who can't afford them (a group which also includes me). There is also the use-of-resources argument, which is basically that, for the price of an EV, one could buy two gasoline-powered economy cars and give one of those to someone with an old, gas-guzzling, polluting car, and that this would actually do more for emissions reduction than buying one EV would.

Honestly, I just want a reliable way to get from place to place. And, FWIW, I'm an independent.

[Anonymous]

PP here. I should add that there is also an open question about whether the US electrical grid is capable of powering large numbers of charging devices. I've heard various arguments for and against this (some of which depend upon time-of-use issues). And there is also a certain amount of inefficiency in the grid and distribution system itself (a certain amount of electricity is lost as heat between the generating plant and your house). I don't know the answers to any of these, but they seem like questions worth asking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Electric is coal, gas, oil and nuclear plus toxic battery waste and mining

I think that the argument for EVs is mostly that a) electricity can come from any of various sources (coal, natural gas, oil, nuclear, etc.) and thus is less subject to disruption than gasoline-based cars and that b) the electricity generation can take place outside of populated areas, keeping any pollution away from where people live and work.

The arguments against them seem to be mostly from people whose use cases don't fit (for example, I live downtown and park on the street, where there is no charging facility), or from people who can't afford them (a group which also includes me). There is also the use-of-resources argument, which is basically that, for the price of an EV, one could buy two gasoline-powered economy cars and give one of those to someone with an old, gas-guzzling, polluting car, and that this would actually do more for emissions reduction than buying one EV would.

Honestly, I just want a reliable way to get from place to place. And, FWIW, I'm an independent.

Electrics pollute just as much with coal, gas, oil, nuclear being the main sources plus huge toxic battery waste and the mining required. Also after burning the coal a ton of energy is lost transporting over lines and are everywhere requiring consistent repair and maintenance using diesel machinery.

It’s a joke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here. I should add that there is also an open question about whether the US electrical grid is capable of powering large numbers of charging devices. I've heard various arguments for and against this (some of which depend upon time-of-use issues). And there is also a certain amount of inefficiency in the grid and distribution system itself (a certain amount of electricity is lost as heat between the generating plant and your house). I don't know the answers to any of these, but they seem like questions worth asking.

It’s not open … the grid isn’t even close and many many new oil, gas, coal, nuclear polluting plants would need to be built.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a staunch Republican and I have no problem with electric vehicles. I don't personally like them because I prefer ICE plus a manual transmission for the driving experience.

My real problem is the fact that we ignore proven energy generation technologies that are clean and would solve many of our challenges for fake solutions like wind. We've lost a lot of time pursuing this garbage.

Nuclear?

we can not store things properly for 50 years, I can not back nuclear as a result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my podunk hometown's newspaper they let locals submit anonymous brief comments. One or two sentences.

After the town announced they were installing four (4) public chargers -- for free! using state and energy company grants -- there were dozens of comments raging about the four chargers and EVs in general. Low watt angry morons brainwashed by Fox News and the right wing apparatus.

This. The people responding on this thread for the most part are saying some version of “doesn’t work for me because I like the drive, sound, etc of gas cars and EVs don’t meet my need in range”. Totally reasonable. It’s the people though that write the letters above that are confusing to me. Is it just signaling to others in your community that you are one of them?

[Anonymous]

I could care less about electric vehicles but I care very much about them being mandated. If they are truly better than the free market will win out. No one needed to outlaw horses 100 years ago to get people to stop using them for everyday transportation. In addition I am annoyed by smug liberals who think merely driving an electric car makes them a good person. In college in 2006 my professor announced that she was doing her part by driving a Prius and how many of us could say the same? Well, we are 20 year olds in college working at Subway for spending money so... None of us. Shame.

[Anonymous]

We have solar panels and are self sufficient for electricity plus sending power back to the grid. If we get an EV, it will be powered by the sun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I could care less about electric vehicles but I care very much about them being mandated. If they are truly better than the free market will win out. No one needed to outlaw horses 100 years ago to get people to stop using them for everyday transportation. In addition I am annoyed by smug liberals who think merely driving an electric car makes them a good person. In college in 2006 my professor announced that she was doing her part by driving a Prius and how many of us could say the same? Well, we are 20 year olds in college working at Subway for spending money so... None of us. Shame.

I kind of feel the opposite but for the same reasons. Horses were WAY worse than cars. On many many fronts. Electric cars are not going to be that much better/different then gas cars, they are just far better for the environment. By mandating, even slowly, or by pressuring people to switch via incentives you help the environment and help the process along.

It will also help the industry become standard which will make them more affordable and get people (like me actually) who just prefer the sound and feeling of a gas engine because it is what I've always known to make the leap.

In other words, this is exactly where market and government regulations SHOULD come together because you need government to incentivize business to make it cheaper.

That said I have concerns about the battery residue being as bad for the environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a staunch Republican. I drive a Tesla. I used to be a democrat until I watched the disgusting throwing of children under the bus during the pandemic.

Hello friend, and fellow tesla driver and former D.

[Anonymous]

Tesla is the largest EV maker in the world. Rather than celebrating this, Ds want to destroy Tesla because Elon likes to sh- post on Twitter. So I dont believe that Ds care as much as they claim about EVs or they would be focused on the actual performance of the company and not how they feel about Elon as a person.

- R and tesla driver, with another tesla on order