Is anyone watching Spicer's press conference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure he was trying to call them out on their misrepresentation and attempts to portray him in a negative light. I've heard lots of talk about the numbers, but has anyone mentioned how the Time reporter suggested that Trump removed the MLK bust from the Oval Office? That was a ridiculous accusation to tweet out and be wrong about it.

Agree but the Time reporter apologized Friday night saying SS agent blocked his view and Sean Spicer tweeted "apology accepted" then proceeds to freak out about it in a presser the next day. Either way, wouldn't it have been better to just ignore it and start working on the plan to systematically destroy our country. This is small ball.

Yeah, that was classic fascist tactic - to make a huge to-do over something that wasn't even an issue. Reporter agreed he was wrong and issued apology. How often has Trump or any of his spokespeople ever apologized for the times they got things wrong [lied]?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure he was trying to call them out on their misrepresentation and attempts to portray him in a negative light. I've heard lots of talk about the numbers, but has anyone mentioned how the Time reporter suggested that Trump removed the MLK bust from the Oval Office? That was a ridiculous accusation to tweet out and be wrong about it.

Agree but the Time reporter apologized Friday night saying SS agent blocked his view and Sean Spicer tweeted "apology accepted" then proceeds to freak out about it in a presser the next day. Either way, wouldn't it have been better to just ignore it and start working on the plan to systematically destroy our country. This is small ball.

Yeah, that was classic fascist tactic - to make a huge to-do over something that wasn't even an issue. Reporter agreed he was wrong and issued apology. How often has Trump or any of his spokespeople ever apologized for the times they got things wrong [lied]?

Our country depends on the press now to hold Trump's feet to the fire. It is unbelievable to me the Republicans the "most patriotic " of us all are allowing this man to continue . He is going to the destroy the country if they don't box him in. I never thought I would see this day.
Though I do think our founding fathers new race would be the only catalyst to destroy what they created. I just always assumed the former slices would rise up. Never imagined that poor whites would be so angry at people of color advancing they would bring in a loon.

[Anonymous]

Former slaves not slices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:f you are puzzled by the bizarre "press conference" put on by the White House press secretary this evening (angrily claiming that Trump's inauguration had the largest audience in history, accusing them of faking photos and lying about attendance), let me help explain it. This spectacle served three purposes:

1. Establishing a norm with the press: they will be told things that are obviously wrong and they will have no opportunity to ask questions. That way, they will be grateful if they get anything more at any press conference. This is the PR equivalent of "negging," the odious pick-up practice of a particular kind of horrible person (e.g., Donald Trump).

2. Increasing the separation between Trump's base (1/3 of the population) from everybody else (the remaining 2/3). By being told something that is obviously wrong—that there is no evidence for and all evidence against, that anybody with eyes can see is wrong—they are forced to pick whether they are going to believe Trump or their lying eyes. The gamble here—likely to pay off—is that they will believe Trump. This means that they will regard media outlets that report the truth as "fake news" (because otherwise they'd be forced to confront their cognitive dissonance.)

3. Creating a sense of uncertainty about whether facts are knowable, among a certain chunk of the population (which is a taking a page from the Kremlin, for whom this is their preferred disinformation tactic). A third of the population will say "clearly the White House is lying," a third will say "if Trump says it, it must be true," and the remaining third will say "gosh, I guess this is unknowable." The idea isn't to convince these people of untrue things, it's to fatigue them, so that they will stay out of the political process entirely, regarding the truth as just too difficult to determine.

This is laying important groundwork for the months ahead. If Trump's White House is willing to lie about something as obviously, unquestionably fake as this, just imagine what else they'll lie about. In particular, things that the public cannot possibly verify the truth of. It's gonna get real bad.

I am seeing this post all over my FB feed. Is this a copy from elsewhere, or are people sharing an image of DCUM?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:f you are puzzled by the bizarre "press conference" put on by the White House press secretary this evening (angrily claiming that Trump's inauguration had the largest audience in history, accusing them of faking photos and lying about attendance), let me help explain it. This spectacle served three purposes:

1. Establishing a norm with the press: they will be told things that are obviously wrong and they will have no opportunity to ask questions. That way, they will be grateful if they get anything more at any press conference. This is the PR equivalent of "negging," the odious pick-up practice of a particular kind of horrible person (e.g., Donald Trump).

2. Increasing the separation between Trump's base (1/3 of the population) from everybody else (the remaining 2/3). By being told something that is obviously wrong—that there is no evidence for and all evidence against, that anybody with eyes can see is wrong—they are forced to pick whether they are going to believe Trump or their lying eyes. The gamble here—likely to pay off—is that they will believe Trump. This means that they will regard media outlets that report the truth as "fake news" (because otherwise they'd be forced to confront their cognitive dissonance.)

3. Creating a sense of uncertainty about whether facts are knowable, among a certain chunk of the population (which is a taking a page from the Kremlin, for whom this is their preferred disinformation tactic). A third of the population will say "clearly the White House is lying," a third will say "if Trump says it, it must be true," and the remaining third will say "gosh, I guess this is unknowable." The idea isn't to convince these people of untrue things, it's to fatigue them, so that they will stay out of the political process entirely, regarding the truth as just too difficult to determine.

This is laying important groundwork for the months ahead. If Trump's White House is willing to lie about something as obviously, unquestionably fake as this, just imagine what else they'll lie about. In particular, things that the public cannot possibly verify the truth of. It's gonna get real bad.

I am seeing this post all over my FB feed. Is this a copy from elsewhere, or are people sharing an image of DCUM?

I was wondering the same thing.

[Anonymous]

It was not original - I am the PP who posted it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was not original - I am the PP who posted it.

Thanks. Do you know where it came from?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:It was not original - I am the PP who posted it.

Please cite your source next time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just visited fox news page on facebook. Scrolled down to their post from Spicer's briefing - almost all the comments are "finally someone telling us the truth" and "glad he's a strong speaker." and "the liberal media was lying." Feels like an alternate universe.

They must be bummed that Trump is already throwing him under the bus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/trump-white-house-briefing-inauguration-crowd-size.html?_r=0

"But most of his remarks were devoted to attacking the news media. And Mr. Spicer picked up the theme later in the day in the White House briefing room. But his appearance, according to the people familiar with Mr. Trump’s thinking, went too far, in the president’s opinion."

Spicer tried to control the narrative and he largely succeeded. There was little policy discussion on the Sunday talk shows about things such as the new climate report, gutting the reduction in PMI premiums, the jingoism of "America First" (and the roots in US anti-Semitism of the 1930s) etc. We didn't get appearances from the new SecDef to discuss the War on Terror or implications of relocating the US embassy to Jerusalem. Instead we got tired talking points from Reince and Kellyanne about the number of states Trump won in the election and Nielsen ratings. The Not Ready For Prime Players at work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need a good nickname for Spicer, along the lines of Baghdad Bob.

Apparently, he's already got one: "Sean Sphincter"


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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just visited fox news page on facebook. Scrolled down to their post from Spicer's briefing - almost all the comments are "finally someone telling us the truth" and "glad he's a strong speaker." and "the liberal media was lying." Feels like an alternate universe.

They must be bummed that Trump is already throwing him under the bus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/trump-white-house-briefing-inauguration-crowd-size.html?_r=0

"But most of his remarks were devoted to attacking the news media. And Mr. Spicer picked up the theme later in the day in the White House briefing room. But his appearance, according to the people familiar with Mr. Trump’s thinking, went too far, in the president’s opinion."

Spicer tried to control the narrative and he largely succeeded. There was little policy discussion on the Sunday talk shows about things such as the new climate report, gutting the reduction in PMI premiums, the jingoism of "America First" (and the roots in US anti-Semitism of the 1930s) etc. We didn't get appearances from the new SecDef to discuss the War on Terror or implications of relocating the US embassy to Jerusalem. Instead we got tired talking points from Reince and Kellyanne about the number of states Trump won in the election and Nielsen ratings. The Not Ready For Prime Players at work.

Yeah but the PMI thing is something that came and went before a single citizen could benefit from it. The negativity of his speech has been very well covered. And Jerusalem hasn't officially been announced, but it will cause a blowup when it does. There is a chance that this will end up being the ambassador working out of his private residence in Jerusalem, which doesn't amount to anything.

[Anonymous]

So based on Monday's press conference, the whole numbers thing was instigated because Trump and Spicer's feelings were hurt about the coverage of the awful attendance at the Inaugural.

Who's the snowflake?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was not original - I am the PP who posted it.

Please cite your source next time.

It seemed to have started here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/22/1623492/-Great-Explanation-of-Baghdad-Sean-Spicer-s-Bizarre-N-Korea-Style-Statement-Yesterday

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was not original - I am the PP who posted it.

Please cite your source next time.

It seemed to have started here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/22/1623492/-Great-Explanation-of-Baghdad-Sean-Spicer-s-Bizarre-N-Korea-Style-Statement-Yesterday

And Jeff, your board is famous in the internet as the source of this...

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/01/trump-lies/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028514920

https://climatecrocks.com/2017/01/23/to-you-the-people/comment-page-1/

So, you will feel Trump's wrath soon.