Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?

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Anonymous wrote:Top 10 or Ivy schools


Top is always the community colleges. Even the U.S. President's wife teaches at one.
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Anonymous wrote:Penn has the #1 MBA program, #3 medical school, #4 law school, #1 undergraduate business school, #6 ranked national university, #8 for undergraduate economics, among many many many other top programs. All by USNWR.


Penn also has the most billionaire alumni out of any college.

https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/news/this-school-has-the-most-billionaire-alumni/

There is no university more elite than Penn.


Harvard has more billionaires than Penn if you count all degrees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_by_number_of_billionaire_alumni#:~:text=Counting%20all%20degrees%2C%20Harvard%20University,total%20number%20of%20billionaire%20alumni.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider Yale to be elite anymore.

Harvard, Princeton, Penn, MIT, and Stanford. Top 5.


Interesting, maybe. Penn has the edge in some areas. But Yale still elite.
Splitting hairs to call one better.


The only thing elite about Penn is Wharton but Yale is overall elite.


No dog in this fight. My kids went to Columbia and Cornell. But Ivy league kids would generally agree with this.


You can't represent the general Ivy kids.


^Ditto. HYP grads not exactly crossing paths with CCBP grads unless they're looking for a chiropractor or talking to their kid's middle school geography teacher.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider Yale to be elite anymore.

Harvard, Princeton, Penn, MIT, and Stanford. Top 5.


Interesting, maybe. Penn has the edge in some areas. But Yale still elite.
Splitting hairs to call one better.


The only thing elite about Penn is Wharton but Yale is overall elite.


No dog in this fight. My kids went to Columbia and Cornell. But Ivy league kids would generally agree with this.


You can't represent the general Ivy kids.


^Ditto. HYP grads not exactly crossing paths with CCBP grads unless they're looking for a chiropractor or talking to their kid's middle school geography teacher.


People of HYP grads should be ashamed to having you as one of them if you are indeed one.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider Yale to be elite anymore.

Harvard, Princeton, Penn, MIT, and Stanford. Top 5.


Interesting, maybe. Penn has the edge in some areas. But Yale still elite.
Splitting hairs to call one better.


The only thing elite about Penn is Wharton but Yale is overall elite.


No dog in this fight. My kids went to Columbia and Cornell. But Ivy league kids would generally agree with this.


You can't represent the general Ivy kids.


^Ditto. HYP grads not exactly crossing paths with CCBP grads unless they're looking for a chiropractor or talking to their kid's middle school geography teacher.


Penn grads are too wealthy to care about any other ivies.
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Anonymous wrote:Ivy League + Chicago, MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, DUKE, Hopkins, Caltech.


+ Berkeley


For CS Berkley, MIT and Stanford would top the list. The other schools, not so much.


And Carnegie Mellon.

Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Stanford and Berkeley have long held a 4-way tie for #1 in Computer Science.
Anonymous
My take:

HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore
Berkeley
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My take:

HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore
Berkeley

You've been drinking the UChicago undergrad juice.
Anonymous
Pomona belongs with AWS too
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My take:

HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore
Berkeley


minus berkeley
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Overall, Penn is still one level below HYPSM.


Try two levels below. It also gets another half notch below in my book considering it essentially shares a name with Penn State.
Anonymous
Here is a tier ranking from another thread a little while back.

Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed)

Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1)

Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes)

Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…
Anonymous
Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.
Anonymous
More:
1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford
Anonymous
One more; I did the work for you all by finding other junkie posts about this:

If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW
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