Top is always the community colleges. Even the U.S. President's wife teaches at one. |
Harvard has more billionaires than Penn if you count all degrees. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_by_number_of_billionaire_alumni#:~:text=Counting%20all%20degrees%2C%20Harvard%20University,total%20number%20of%20billionaire%20alumni. |
^Ditto. HYP grads not exactly crossing paths with CCBP grads unless they're looking for a chiropractor or talking to their kid's middle school geography teacher. |
People of HYP grads should be ashamed to having you as one of them if you are indeed one. |
Penn grads are too wealthy to care about any other ivies. |
And Carnegie Mellon. Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Stanford and Berkeley have long held a 4-way tie for #1 in Computer Science. |
My take:
HYPSM Caltech Columbia Penn Chicago Duke Northwestern Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins Amherst Williams Swarthmore Berkeley |
You've been drinking the UChicago undergrad juice. |
Pomona belongs with AWS too |
minus berkeley |
Try two levels below. It also gets another half notch below in my book considering it essentially shares a name with Penn State. |
Here is a tier ranking from another thread a little while back.
Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed) Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1) Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes) Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell… |
Here was another one; Have at it:
Undergraduate Tiers 1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton 1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech 2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst 2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley 3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard 3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there. |
More:
1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago 2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona 2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
One more; I did the work for you all by finding other junkie posts about this:
If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of: 1. MIT 2. Stanford 3. Princeton ---Big Gap--- 4. Harvard 5. Yale 6. Duke 7. Penn ---Big Gap--- 8. Caltech 9. Northwestern 10. Columbia 11. Vanderbilt 12. UCLA 13. Berkeley 14. UMich 15. Dartmouth 16. Georgetown 17. Johns Hopkins 18. Cornell 19. Notre Dame 20. WashU (tie) 20. UChicago (tie) 22. UNC 23. UF (tie) 23. UVA (tie) 25. CMU ---Big Gap--- 26. Georgia Tech 27. UCSD 28. USC 29. Emory 30. UIUC 31. UCD 32. UCI 33. UW Seattle 34. BC 35. Wake Forest 36. UT Austin 37. UW Madison ---Big Gap--- 38. W&M 39. UCSB 40. Lehigh 41. Purdue ---Big Gap--- 42. Texas A&M 43. UMD 44. Virginia Tech 45. BU 46. UGA 47. NYU 48. NCSU 49. BYU 50. GW report |