Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lotta censorship going on here, for the apparent purpose of appeasing the pro-Israeli crowd and their interest in suppressing discussion.

Hahhahahahahahhahahhah. Have you watched any American politician speak? There’s only one way to speak if you want to get re-elected, and it certainly involves appeasing the pro-Israeli crowd. How did we as Americans let this happen?

Jewish Americans have been a steady, and reliable, liberal/democratic voter base for decades now. With how Biden and the left continues to spit in our face and turn away from Israel, it seems like he forgot that.

It’s crazy, as a Jew a year ago I never thought I would meet more then a handful of my fellow Jews who would vote for a local Republican candidate, let alone Trump, and now finding a single Jew who will even consider voting for Biden is like finding a needle in a haystack after his abject refusal to support Israel and the Jewish people.

Maybe it’s Bibi’s fault that the last three Democrat presidents dislike him?

Back then, Jews thought Clinton was too pro Palestinian. Anybody who treats Palestinians like humans are bad people and anti Jewish .

So most of the Middle East are bad people. They have provided no support for Palestine in any way. Got it.

Perhaps not bad people, but definitely blinded by religious ideology and victims of mass psychology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lotta censorship going on here, for the apparent purpose of appeasing the pro-Israeli crowd and their interest in suppressing discussion.

Hahhahahahahahhahahhah. Have you watched any American politician speak? There’s only one way to speak if you want to get re-elected, and it certainly involves appeasing the pro-Israeli crowd. How did we as Americans let this happen?

Jewish Americans have been a steady, and reliable, liberal/democratic voter base for decades now. With how Biden and the left continues to spit in our face and turn away from Israel, it seems like he forgot that.

It’s crazy, as a Jew a year ago I never thought I would meet more then a handful of my fellow Jews who would vote for a local Republican candidate, let alone Trump, and now finding a single Jew who will even consider voting for Biden is like finding a needle in a haystack after his abject refusal to support Israel and the Jewish people.

Maybe it’s Bibi’s fault that the last three Democrat presidents dislike him?

Back then, Jews thought Clinton was too pro Palestinian. Anybody who treats Palestinians like humans are bad people and anti Jewish .

So most of the Middle East are bad people. They have provided no support for Palestine in any way. Got it.

Perhaps not bad people, but definitely blinded by religious ideology and victims of mass psychology.

And to be clear that includes ALL countries in the region

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lotta censorship going on here, for the apparent purpose of appeasing the pro-Israeli crowd and their interest in suppressing discussion.

Hahhahahahahahhahahhah. Have you watched any American politician speak? There’s only one way to speak if you want to get re-elected, and it certainly involves appeasing the pro-Israeli crowd. How did we as Americans let this happen?

Jewish Americans have been a steady, and reliable, liberal/democratic voter base for decades now. With how Biden and the left continues to spit in our face and turn away from Israel, it seems like he forgot that.

It’s crazy, as a Jew a year ago I never thought I would meet more then a handful of my fellow Jews who would vote for a local Republican candidate, let alone Trump, and now finding a single Jew who will even consider voting for Biden is like finding a needle in a haystack after his abject refusal to support Israel and the Jewish people.

Maybe it’s Bibi’s fault that the last three Democrat presidents dislike him?

Back then, Jews thought Clinton was too pro Palestinian. Anybody who treats Palestinians like humans are bad people and anti Jewish .

So most of the Middle East are bad people. They have provided no support for Palestine in any way. Got it.

lol you really have no clue about the Middle East with a statement like that. Who do you think rebuilds Gaza every five years when the Israeli blows it up? They have refused this time unless there is a two state solution. How many wars have been launched to liberate the Palestinians? How much support has hezbollah and other groups received.
Israel received no support from the Middle East. It all comes from the US and US pressure on countries in the region. How long can that go on? The US does not do long term support like this.

[Anonymous]

Probably the only thing that aligns Arab nations, Turkey , and Iran is Palestine. Of course, nobody except Egypt is in position to really do anything because sending a flotilla or ship or airplane with bread and water and medicine would mean getting intercepted by Israel and they would think anything getting send from these nations is armed and attack. Then, a bigger war breaks out .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Probably the only thing that aligns Arab nations, Turkey , and Iran is Palestine. Of course, nobody except Egypt is in position to really do anything because sending a flotilla or ship or airplane with bread and water and medicine would mean getting intercepted by Israel and they would think anything getting send from these nations is armed and attack. Then, a bigger war breaks out .

Turkey is sending a flotilla and has sent them before.

Jordan, the US, and UAE have done air drops as well.

[Anonymous]

Without a 2 state solution there will not be peace
Israel seems to benefit from the ongoing conflict militarily and financially.
I would like to know what the borders of Israel should look like for there to be an end to illegal land grabs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without a 2 state solution there will not be peace
Israel seems to benefit from the ongoing conflict militarily and financially.
I would like to know what the borders of Israel should look like for there to be an end to illegal land grabs

Same as now but Israel should remove settlements from WB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without a 2 state solution there will not be peace
Israel seems to benefit from the ongoing conflict militarily and financially.
I would like to know what the borders of Israel should look like for there to be an end to illegal land grabs

Same as now but Israel should remove settlements from WB

So you would remove all of West Bank and leave Gaza?
Would West Bank be just empty waste land or do you actually have development plans to do something with it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without a 2 state solution there will not be peace
Israel seems to benefit from the ongoing conflict militarily and financially.
I would like to know what the borders of Israel should look like for there to be an end to illegal land grabs

Same as now but Israel should remove settlements from WB

So you would remove all of West Bank and leave Gaza?
Would West Bank be just empty waste land or do you actually have development plans to do something with it?

Make isreal pay to restore Palestinian farms and villages

[Anonymous]

Add this point Congress is just an arms dealer. No education. No healthcare. No housing. No clean drinking water. But we will finance your war.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When does an eye for an eye stop? This is for both sides .

Israel is delusional if they believe destroying Hamas will do anything. Hamas is an idea .

Hamas is delusional if they believe they can destroy Israel. Israel is also an idea.

The US should facilitate two state solution, then fine , economically strip , and sanction , either the Israeli or Palestinian states for killing.

A 2 state solution for Israel and Hamas? Hamas is a terrorist organization that wants Israel gone. There is no compromise.

Israel is a terrorist State that has blown up 150,000 Palestinians in some way shape or form over the past 6 months. Damn straight there is no compromise.

You seem to not know what a terrorist is. A terrorist is someone who grabs people at a music festival and kidnaps and kill then. What Israel is doing is responding with war to ensure this doesn’t happen again. The response does not have to be proportional. Anyone who wins a war has never had a proportional response.

Israel was founded through terrorism. The massacres and expulsions of Palestinians during the Nakba were acts of terrorism, as were the prior attacks on the King David Hotel and other British targets. Settlers in the West Bank commit acts of terrorism against Palestinians almost daily. If violence deserves a violent response, as you suggest, Hamas would be justified in responding to Israel's aggression, which includes land theft, abuse and torture of Palestinians, and the illegal (under international law) detention of thousands of Palestinians who are not charged or granted a trial. Hamas would like to respond "with war to ensure this doesn't happen again," which led to 10/7. While 10/7 was certainly wrong in every way, it's really no different from what Israel has been doing for decades. Does that make it somehow right? Of course not, but to dub one side "terrorists" and the other as merely waging a "war" doesn't tell the story. The Palestinians have suffered terrible injustices. Israelis were given a free country and, in some cases, even the stolen cottages of murdered or evicted Palestinians, while Palestinians have been repeatedly wronged. How could anyone conclude that this situation would ever be peaceful? And the "eye for an eye" narrative really isn't working out for either side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without a 2 state solution there will not be peace
Israel seems to benefit from the ongoing conflict militarily and financially.
I would like to know what the borders of Israel should look like for there to be an end to illegal land grabs

Same as now but Israel should remove settlements from WB

So you would remove all of West Bank and leave Gaza?
Would West Bank be just empty waste land or do you actually have development plans to do something with it?

Make isreal pay to restore Palestinian farms and villages

+1000
There needs to be compensation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without a 2 state solution there will not be peace
Israel seems to benefit from the ongoing conflict militarily and financially.
I would like to know what the borders of Israel should look like for there to be an end to illegal land grabs

Same as now but Israel should remove settlements from WB

So you would remove all of West Bank and leave Gaza?
Would West Bank be just empty waste land or do you actually have development plans to do something with it?

Make isreal pay to restore Palestinian farms and villages

+1000
There needs to be compensation.

All countries that supplied Israel with the weapons used to slaughter Palestinians and demolish Gaza's infrastructure should be required to rebuild Gaza and the West Bank.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only way to deter either side from violence is interference of a neutral party, incentivizing peace , and financial consequences .

I'm beginning to wonder if China is going to step up and be the adult. Because nobody else is going to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without a 2 state solution there will not be peace
Israel seems to benefit from the ongoing conflict militarily and financially.
I would like to know what the borders of Israel should look like for there to be an end to illegal land grabs

Same as now but Israel should remove settlements from WB

So you would remove all of West Bank and leave Gaza?
Would West Bank be just empty waste land or do you actually have development plans to do something with it?

Make isreal pay to restore Palestinian farms and villages

+1000
There needs to be compensation.

All countries that supplied Israel with the weapons used to slaughter Palestinians and demolish Gaza's infrastructure should be required to rebuild Gaza and the West Bank.

Fair. But Israel shouldn't be let off the hook. It needs to be sanctioned.