CA law looking to abolish Clear

Anonymous
They want everyone to stand in the same lines. You won't be able to pay yourself to the front anymore (though Clear is so common it often doesn't have much benefit).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They want everyone to stand in the same lines. You won't be able to pay yourself to the front anymore (though Clear is so common it often doesn't have much benefit).


There will still be the smug few who think that they are the only ones who fly in an airplane regularly. Can we do something about them?
Anonymous
Equal access to a government security line- that’s socialism
Anonymous
If/when their deal with Amex ends, their membership numbers will tank, I think. As PP said, the lack of significant benefit anymore at places like IAD mean I would never pay $179+99 (for spouse) out of pocket.

Amex just renewed for another year.

https://viewfromthewing.com/amex-extends-clear-benefit-on-several-premium-cards/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They want everyone to stand in the same lines. You won't be able to pay yourself to the front anymore (though Clear is so common it often doesn't have much benefit).


There will still be the smug few who think that they are the only ones who fly in an airplane regularly. Can we do something about them?


You are cordially invited to have your toddler puke on them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Equal access to a government security line- that’s socialism


It’s not about “equal access” because it has nothing to do with banning/abolishing Precheck, which by its very nature isn’t “equal”. Clear is a private company that gets you past even Precheck.

And even this bill doesn’t abolish Clear, it’s asking that they get their own line in order to keep operating, not cutting in front of other pax in the TSA lines. I see no problem here.

I’m a frequent flyer for work and my whole family has Global Entry/Precheck but we’ve never sprung for Clear. I was just somewhere, can’t remember where, in the Precheck line close to the front and then had to wait for a Clear pax, who had priority and got in front of me. Then another. Then another. Then another. Just when I would think it would be me, another person would come up, probably a dozen, at least. I see no problem with a private company having to pay for their own line, considering they make money from it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Equal access to a government security line- that’s socialism


It’s not about “equal access” because it has nothing to do with banning/abolishing Precheck, which by its very nature isn’t “equal”. Clear is a private company that gets you past even Precheck.

And even this bill doesn’t abolish Clear, it’s asking that they get their own line in order to keep operating, not cutting in front of other pax in the TSA lines. I see no problem here.

I’m a frequent flyer for work and my whole family has Global Entry/Precheck but we’ve never sprung for Clear. I was just somewhere, can’t remember where, in the Precheck line close to the front and then had to wait for a Clear pax, who had priority and got in front of me. Then another. Then another. Then another. Just when I would think it would be me, another person would come up, probably a dozen, at least. I see no problem with a private company having to pay for their own line, considering they make money from it.


I didn't read the bill because I don't care enough but if it does this I'm 100% for it. I have Clear but it's really not always beneficial.

Anonymous
Why was Clear ever allowed in the first place? It doesn't make sense.
Anonymous
Clear is so common now, just like the Amex platinum, it literally does not matter. Lines are lines.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Clear is so common now, just like the Amex platinum, it literally does not matter. Lines are lines.


Clear matters at DCA. My husband hates it but we have the amex so it's 'free" but he just hates it.
Anonymous
I just came from LAX, and the Clear line was longer than the regular line.
Anonymous
I’ve always thought it was so ridiculous. A private company you can pay in order to get preferential treatment from a government agency? That’s so un American. I can’t believe it’s allowed and so I refuse to pay for it. TSA precheck makes sense and I do have that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Equal access to a government security line- that’s socialism


It’s not about “equal access” because it has nothing to do with banning/abolishing Precheck, which by its very nature isn’t “equal”. Clear is a private company that gets you past even Precheck.

And even this bill doesn’t abolish Clear, it’s asking that they get their own line in order to keep operating, not cutting in front of other pax in the TSA lines. I see no problem here.

I’m a frequent flyer for work and my whole family has Global Entry/Precheck but we’ve never sprung for Clear. I was just somewhere, can’t remember where, in the Precheck line close to the front and then had to wait for a Clear pax, who had priority and got in front of me. Then another. Then another. Then another. Just when I would think it would be me, another person would come up, probably a dozen, at least. I see no problem with a private company having to pay for their own line, considering they make money from it.


A line though a government line for people who can pay a third party usher them through is ridiculous.
Anonymous
I'm for it. Not sure why they are allowed to bump TSA Pre passengers who have paid TSA to be pre-cleared.
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