s/o New understanding of Harry & Meghan

[Anonymous]

The latest BRF PR family had made me look at Harry and Meghan in a different light. I was clearly in the camp of they’re whiny, spoiled, bad people for betraying their family. Now I see that there were likely many negative stories planted by the BRF PR machine that may have influenced my opinion of them. Diana publicly told her side of the story and wasn’t judged for it. Maybe H&M have some good points to make.

I still don’t think the world owes them a lavish living just because Harry was born a prince and think they may indeed be “f***ing grifters,” as the Spotify exec said. But I suspect Meghan’s time with the family was indeed worse than I originally thought and do now think they were unfairly made scapegoats while William could get away with pretty much anything.

Also, I don’t think Harry was lying about the necklace/dog bowl fight and am beginning to wonder if the hints of William’s awful temper may ring true. The Rose and pegging rumors are sounding truer also.

Anyway, interesting to think how much PR could have influenced my opinions.

[Anonymous]

The Oprah interview made major damage to both of them.

Having his grandfather at his last days and doing this damaging interview causing extra anguish to his almost 90 year old grandmother, father, etc is something that will always stay with both of them.

There is no good way to explain that interview - he knew his grandfather is in bad condition and still did it, or he didn’t know, which means he’s totally clueless if he didn’t know his own grandfather is dying. The fact that a dying grandfather did not seem a priority consideration to either of them is telling.

[Anonymous]

Duh. Harry’s life was already tough, and all the racist bs that MM went through was unfair. The tabloids, the BRF, and the public were awful to her.

[Anonymous]

I think both things can be true. I have a lot of sympathy for Harry and Meghan, because of the way they were treated and the whole royal family backdrop.

I think where they started losing people was when they moved to that US and started thinking they were God’s gift to the world. The fact that Meghan was paid multi millions of dollars to do that archetypes podcast where she literally dedicated an entire show to talking about how she was objectified during her time as the briefcase girl on deal or no deal or whatever game show it was and positioning that as a deep revelation that sometimes women in Hollywood are hired for their looks and not their brains….was insane.

It was things like that where people rolled their eyes. I really enjoyed their documentary and I like the Oprah interview. But I just became too much and I didn’t want to buy his book because I thought I knew everything and I just know their whole story now and it’s like OK now what do you have left to do? And so far it doesn’t seem like much.

If he had continued with his charity work and his nonprofits, and if she had just done like a normal podcast like the rest of the world it would have been fine. Instead, the whole thing just got wildly out of scale.

[Anonymous]

I’m glad they got out when they did

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Oprah interview made major damage to both of them.

Having his grandfather at his last days and doing this damaging interview causing extra anguish to his almost 90 year old grandmother, father, etc is something that will always stay with both of them.

There is no good way to explain that interview - he knew his grandfather is in bad condition and still did it, or he didn’t know, which means he’s totally clueless if he didn’t know his own grandfather is dying. The fact that a dying grandfather did not seem a priority consideration to either of them is telling.

+1

They could have carried on in England, navigating the BRF and rota. Their position was permanent and, whether popular or unpopular, unassailable.

But when they moved to California and had the Oprah interview, that was the end. The pandemic was bad timing for them but it didn't do them in. They did that to themselves.

[Anonymous]

Seriously?

They are just as wackadoodle as the rest of the BRF.

[Anonymous]

I think Harry is a spoiled and whiny brat, and someone is paying to spread William violence rumors. Is it him, is it anti-royalists who seem very coordinated and active lately? Who knows. It's certainly not something spreading without intervention of sorts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Oprah interview made major damage to both of them.

Having his grandfather at his last days and doing this damaging interview causing extra anguish to his almost 90 year old grandmother, father, etc is something that will always stay with both of them.

There is no good way to explain that interview - he knew his grandfather is in bad condition and still did it, or he didn’t know, which means he’s totally clueless if he didn’t know his own grandfather is dying. The fact that a dying grandfather did not seem a priority consideration to either of them is telling.

+1

They could have carried on in England, navigating the BRF and rota. Their position was permanent and, whether popular or unpopular, unassailable.

But when they moved to California and had the Oprah interview, that was the end. The pandemic was bad timing for them but it didn't do them in. They did that to themselves.

The Oprah interview was bad in a PR sense but that doesn't mean that their accusations were untrue.

After they said they were stepping back from royal duties I always thought that they were a little delusional about their power to control the narrative the public had about them (how can you seriously think you can step back from being a royal and yet still have all the benefits of being a royal?). And this was confirmed by Harry's coauthor (or ghost writer?); he said that he was baffled by Harry's belief that he could control how the public thought of him. But there was hard evidence of racism against Meghan so I always believed that she was indeed being treated unfairly, and trying to navigate the BRF was really too much to ask of her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Harry is a spoiled and whiny brat, and someone is paying to spread William violence rumors. Is it him, is it anti-royalists who seem very coordinated and active lately? Who knows. It's certainly not something spreading without intervention of sorts.

Dude, the public loves conspiracy theories and they spread like wildfire on social media. As far as his character goes, William is digging this hole all on his own here. That's not to say that others aren't capitalizing on it, but nobody needs to fan the flames.

[Anonymous]

I think Harry deeply regrets his choices and misses his old life.

[Anonymous]

Have they, or will they, comment on the Kate photoshop matter?

How does Meghan feel about the latest photo scandal? Surely paparazzi have asked her (or Harry) by now?

[Anonymous]

I think Harry and Meghan come off as vain and more than a little silly but that puts them on the top of the heap by leaps and bounds.

They also had the best wedding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Harry and Meghan come off as vain and more than a little silly but that puts them on the top of the heap by leaps and bounds.

They also had the best wedding.

I actually quite like Harry and Meghan, but I think Kate is, by leaps and bounds, the best of the bunch as far as maturity goes. The fact that it looks like the BRF isn't protecting her more is damning.

[Anonymous]

And this was confirmed by Harry's coauthor (or ghost writer?); he said that he was baffled by Harry's belief that he could control how the public thought of him.

This attitude makes perfect sense - his family has been trying to control public opinion of themselves for decades. And sometimes succeeding.