2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?

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Anonymous wrote:This is just my personal experience but 99% of Ivy grads will face the same tough job market like everyone else. Connections trump over Ivies. Ivies grads with jobs are likely come from connections.

I was set to hire an UPenn CS grad but was overruled by boss's boss's boss who wanted another CS candidate from Clemson University because the big boss knows the candidate's parents. YMMV.

That’s nothing new. Of course, many Ivy students have ultra-connected parents which is why their overall stats are better.

Just curious…what level is boss’s boss’s boss. I can’t imagine working at a company like that unless the 3rd boss is the CEO.

It is a non-profit organization with the CEO makes 4M.. The org chart is like this: CEO --> CIO (EVPs) --> SVPs --> VPs --> Sr. Director(s)--> Director(s) --> Associate Director ---> minions. Boss's boss's boss in this case is one of the SVPs.

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geez would love to see that 990
gotta be in healthcare

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Anonymous wrote:About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

Wow, that’s rough. Sorry.

+1. So much of this happening with CS majors right now. Too many CS majors, not enough jobs.

This. Diversify people.

Diversify into what? There have literally NEVER been enough jobs that require a college degree for liberal arts majors, which is why a massive %age are forever underemployed.

So, are you saying pick engineering and accounting?

The problem is all of these engineers are not equipped to actually lead anything. They have no leadership or communication skills. Pick us soft major and a hard major.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You guys realize that a $400 an hour charge doesn't equal $400 an hour, right? I mean, really: how many plumbers do you know who are rich? It's totally respectable, but don't kid yourselves.

It seems OK. I'm a college professor. My students are doing better than last year.

I’m a General Contractor.

Most of the plumbers I know that own their own firms are quite wealthy.

They grind hard but don’t kid yourself they own multi million dollar homes, private school for their kids, SAHMs.

We have done a real disservice to a lot of folks in this country - skilled trades, especially licensed mechanical trades can be rewarding and lucrative.

x 1,000,000

the educated liberal elite are truly out of touch with reality. that said, the conservatives also have sh*t for brains.

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Anonymous wrote:geez would love to see that 990
gotta be in healthcare

No not healthcare. It is finance related.

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We have an apartment over our garage in a desirable neighborhood and because of that we've housed 4 kids from the class of 2023 while they've searched for jobs over the last year (including my DS). The physics major landed a job first at a cybersecurity start-up paying $65k a year. The business major, a kid who had the best EQ of the 4, landed a job paying about $80k but it took way more time than he expected. The English major who never had an internship in college really struggled and ended up as a health tech for about $45k a year. The math major is still looking (he had a late start) but he has had good offers that he has turned down, unfortunately because now it is getting tougher to get another offer. Just listening to them, math or physics could be a good alternative to CS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:geez would love to see that 990
gotta be in healthcare

No not healthcare. It is finance related.

However, like large hospital systems that are NPOs but aren't exactly charitable...assume something similar?

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FINRA Pres/CEO salary not that high, interesting that there are nonprofit orgs in finance space with that level of compensation
learn something new every day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have an apartment over our garage in a desirable neighborhood and because of that we've housed 4 kids from the class of 2023 while they've searched for jobs over the last year (including my DS). The physics major landed a job first at a cybersecurity start-up paying $65k a year. The business major, a kid who had the best EQ of the 4, landed a job paying about $80k but it took way more time than he expected. The English major who never had an internship in college really struggled and ended up as a health tech for about $45k a year. The math major is still looking (he had a late start) but he has had good offers that he has turned down, unfortunately because now it is getting tougher to get another offer. Just listening to them, math or physics could be a good alternative to CS.

which college are they at?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have an apartment over our garage in a desirable neighborhood and because of that we've housed 4 kids from the class of 2023 while they've searched for jobs over the last year (including my DS). The physics major landed a job first at a cybersecurity start-up paying $65k a year. The business major, a kid who had the best EQ of the 4, landed a job paying about $80k but it took way more time than he expected. The English major who never had an internship in college really struggled and ended up as a health tech for about $45k a year. The math major is still looking (he had a late start) but he has had good offers that he has turned down, unfortunately because now it is getting tougher to get another offer. Just listening to them, math or physics could be a good alternative to CS.

which college were they at?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FINRA Pres/CEO salary not that high, interesting that there are nonprofit orgs in finance space with that level of compensation
learn something new every day

You have to look at the total compensation package. The salary is only 1.1M but bonus and other compensations bring the total to almost 4M.

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Anonymous wrote:We have an apartment over our garage in a desirable neighborhood and because of that we've housed 4 kids from the class of 2023 while they've searched for jobs over the last year (including my DS). The physics major landed a job first at a cybersecurity start-up paying $65k a year. The business major, a kid who had the best EQ of the 4, landed a job paying about $80k but it took way more time than he expected. The English major who never had an internship in college really struggled and ended up as a health tech for about $45k a year. The math major is still looking (he had a late start) but he has had good offers that he has turned down, unfortunately because now it is getting tougher to get another offer. Just listening to them, math or physics could be a good alternative to CS.

Young adults, most of the time, think that they can make it without anyone help and that is the problem.

My DS graduated from VA Tech in December '23 without any job offers even though he did two internships in his sophomore and junior year. He was devastated when he didn't have a job upon graduation that he became depressed for two months. To keep himself from going insane, he went to the gym and hit the golf course everyday. He met this older person on the golf course and they played golf together. Turned out that this person is an SES Fed and he made a few calls on behalf of DS for a contracting position. DS is now working for a big defense contractor with very good salary, 115K. Sadly, "connections" and "networking" is often not emphasized enough in college. Most college students fail to recognize this until they graduate and by then it is too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have an apartment over our garage in a desirable neighborhood and because of that we've housed 4 kids from the class of 2023 while they've searched for jobs over the last year (including my DS). The physics major landed a job first at a cybersecurity start-up paying $65k a year. The business major, a kid who had the best EQ of the 4, landed a job paying about $80k but it took way more time than he expected. The English major who never had an internship in college really struggled and ended up as a health tech for about $45k a year. The math major is still looking (he had a late start) but he has had good offers that he has turned down, unfortunately because now it is getting tougher to get another offer. Just listening to them, math or physics could be a good alternative to CS.

? both the math and physics majors had offers in CS. So, why not just major in CS?

FWIW, my kid is a dual major, math and CS, and DC has excellent verbal skills (debate team) and writing skills (IBPD). Not graduated yet.

I do agree that graduates need both hard and soft skills, no matter your major.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

Wow, that’s rough. Sorry.

+1. So much of this happening with CS majors right now. Too many CS majors, not enough jobs.

This. Diversify people.

Diversify into what? There have literally NEVER been enough jobs that require a college degree for liberal arts majors, which is why a massive %age are forever underemployed.

So, are you saying pick engineering and accounting?

The problem is all of these engineers are not equipped to actually lead anything. They have no leadership or communication skills. Pick us soft major and a hard major.

Yes, much better to pick some comms major who doesn't know anything but is slick to lead. That really inspires the other engineers too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have an apartment over our garage in a desirable neighborhood and because of that we've housed 4 kids from the class of 2023 while they've searched for jobs over the last year (including my DS). The physics major landed a job first at a cybersecurity start-up paying $65k a year. The business major, a kid who had the best EQ of the 4, landed a job paying about $80k but it took way more time than he expected. The English major who never had an internship in college really struggled and ended up as a health tech for about $45k a year. The math major is still looking (he had a late start) but he has had good offers that he has turned down, unfortunately because now it is getting tougher to get another offer. Just listening to them, math or physics could be a good alternative to CS.

? both the math and physics majors had offers in CS. So, why not just major in CS?

FWIW, my kid is a dual major, math and CS, and DC has excellent verbal skills (debate team) and writing skills (IBPD). Not graduated yet.

I do agree that graduates need both hard and soft skills, no matter your major.

Many kids do excel at more than one thing. Pretending that STEM kids are unable to communicate is just an old trope with little merit.