2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fed jobs are so easy to get but low pay. A recent college will get a GS-7 step 1. That’s around 56K/yr in the DMV. Too low for a CS major.

That's good information to know!

My employer PGCPS, just raised starting salary for a first year teacher to $56,731. It's good to see a starting salary more in line with a fed job, even though such jobs pay less than other employment.

[Anonymous]

This is just my personal experience but 99% of Ivy grads will face the same tough job market like everyone else. Connections trump over Ivies. Ivies grads with jobs are likely come from connections.

I was set to hire an UPenn CS grad but was overruled by boss's boss's boss who wanted another CS candidate from Clemson University because the big boss knows the candidate's parents. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fed jobs are so easy to get but low pay. A recent college will get a GS-7 step 1. That’s around 56K/yr in the DMV. Too low for a CS major.

That's good information to know!

My employer PGCPS, just raised starting salary for a first year teacher to $56,731. It's good to see a starting salary more in line with a fed job, even though such jobs pay less than other employment.

I would not say that fed jobs are “easy to get” by any means. Every GS-7 fed I know applied with a referral or had veteran’s preference. Federal jobs are extremely popular because of job security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

Wow, that’s rough. Sorry.

+1. So much of this happening with CS majors right now. Too many CS majors, not enough jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is just my personal experience but 99% of Ivy grads will face the same tough job market like everyone else. Connections trump over Ivies. Ivies grads with jobs are likely come from connections.

I was set to hire an UPenn CS grad but was overruled by boss's boss's boss who wanted another CS candidate from Clemson University because the big boss knows the candidate's parents. YMMV.

That’s nothing new. Of course, many Ivy students have ultra-connected parents which is why their overall stats are better.

Just curious…what level is boss’s boss’s boss. I can’t imagine working at a company like that unless the 3rd boss is the CEO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Especially CS major? DC wants to do cs, but we heard some bad news from friends’ kids. Don’t know pervasive?

Go into Cyber Security - so much easier, better pay, and more jobs available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is just my personal experience but 99% of Ivy grads will face the same tough job market like everyone else. Connections trump over Ivies. Ivies grads with jobs are likely come from connections.

I was set to hire an UPenn CS grad but was overruled by boss's boss's boss who wanted another CS candidate from Clemson University because the big boss knows the candidate's parents. YMMV.

Except some insane %age of Ivy League students (I think 18%) come from the top 1%…so more like 82% of Ivy grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fed jobs are so easy to get but low pay. A recent college will get a GS-7 step 1. That’s around 56K/yr in the DMV. Too low for a CS major.

That's good information to know!

My employer PGCPS, just raised starting salary for a first year teacher to $56,731. It's good to see a starting salary more in line with a fed job, even though such jobs pay less than other employment.

I would not say that fed jobs are “easy to get” by any means. Every GS-7 fed I know applied with a referral or had veteran’s preference. Federal jobs are extremely popular because of job security.

I recall once looking at a job posting for a Fed job and the qualifications they sought seemed crazy for the job and level…almost seems like it is more important to know someone (or veteran I guess) for those jobs compared to entry level private sector.

[Anonymous]

Go into the medical field

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

Wow, that’s rough. Sorry.

+1. So much of this happening with CS majors right now. Too many CS majors, not enough jobs.

There are not enough good paying jobs for almost all majors, not just CS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Especially CS major? DC wants to do cs, but we heard some bad news from friends’ kids. Don’t know pervasive?

Go into Cyber Security - so much easier, better pay, and more jobs available.

and less likely to be offshored

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

Wow, that’s rough. Sorry.

+1. So much of this happening with CS majors right now. Too many CS majors, not enough jobs.

This. Diversify people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

Wow, that’s rough. Sorry.

+1. So much of this happening with CS majors right now. Too many CS majors, not enough jobs.

This. Diversify people.

Diversify into what? There have literally NEVER been enough jobs that require a college degree for liberal arts majors, which is why a massive %age are forever underemployed.

So, are you saying pick engineering and accounting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

Wow, that’s rough. Sorry.

+1. So much of this happening with CS majors right now. Too many CS majors, not enough jobs.

This. Diversify people.

Diversify into what? There have literally NEVER been enough jobs that require a college degree for liberal arts majors, which is why a massive %age are forever underemployed.

So, are you saying pick engineering and accounting?

+1
even some engineering majors are having a hard time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Especially CS major? DC wants to do cs, but we heard some bad news from friends’ kids. Don’t know pervasive?

Go into Cyber Security - so much easier, better pay, and more jobs available.

and less likely to be offshored

+1. GMU's cyber security majors can write their own tickets