The other thread doesn't mention the type of job it is which really makes a big difference. In almost any other job other than nannying, if you take time off your employer doesn't need to find someone to replace you for that time. In some jobs someone else in the office might have to cover certain aspects of a job but for the most part, when someone is on vacation their job just doesn't get done. Or if you work in retail or a restaurant there are plenty of people to cover you while you are away.

A nanny position is completely different. Employers have to find backup care when you are away which is why it's more important to be upfront as early as possible.

I will also add I would have responded the exact same way on both threads. I still think it's better to mention the vacation in the interview and it's what I've done myself in the past. If you wait until you are already hired and your employer is upset about it why would you set yourself up to work in that environment. They are either going to care or they won't but they aren't going to care less if you wait to tell them.

Of course there are different answers in the other thread linked to above than the answers here. The thread in the other forum doesn't mention what kind of job, which makes a huge difference.

In the other thread, it would be easy to assume that the OP was posting about a job that might require specialized skills, which is why they may have bargaining power after an offer is made. If someone is a rocket scientist, and the company thinks they are a specific fit, then, yes, they might have power to negotiate after an offer is made.

Nannies don't have that kind of power. It's pretty easy to be a nanny, so if you wait until after an offer is made, a family can just decide to rescind the offer and move on to other candidates. Chances are they can find a good fit with another candidate. The company employing the rocket scientist might not.

So comparing the threads and bitching about all MBs is silly.

OP, I would hire a candidate who told me in the interview for sure, if I really wanted her for the job. I'd probably even hire her if she told me in the negotiation stage. The only time I would have a problem would be if she told me after she started working. I'd feel lied to by then.

Good luck on your job search.

our nanny told us in the interview and we hired her anyway. i would have fired her or recscinded the offer if she had told us after the offer

"Did you read the other thread? Completely different responses than we got from MBs on this thread. Why? "

I don't think they were4 wildly different. Here most folks said go w/ option A or as a fall back option B. Several people that advocated option A (tell during interview) said they were nannies. Option B (tell after offer but before start) is what the other board recommended. I agree with Option B actually (MB here) but only so long as you reply promptly to it and it's not said like the day before you start. Trust is so fundamental in a nanny job - much more so than in most other jobs - that anything that erodes that is really toxic to a good relationship.

Anonymous wrote:To me the difference in answers on both forums are expected. Employees/ nannies are saying tell after and employers/hiring managers/Mb/Db are saying tell at interview. Employees whether in accounting or a nanny are going to answer with their best interest at heart and employers whether CEOs or MBs are going to reply with their best interest at heart. Totally expected and explains the difference in answers

Wrong.

From the hiring manager in the other thread:

Anonymous wrote:I've been a recruiter and a hiring manager. This really isn't a big deal and is not uncommon. Do NOT tell before offer, though. After offer, they're already in love with you.

The advice here was self serving. It just was. Any other person realizes you wait for an offer before disclosing information like this. Telling them before won't make a difference if the offer would be rescinded anyway, and waiting may give you a chance to knock their socks off before clouding their impression of you.

To me the difference in answers on both forums are expected. Employees/ nannies are saying tell after and employers/hiring managers/Mb/Db are saying tell at interview. Employees whether in accounting or a nanny are going to answer with their best interest at heart and employers whether CEOs or MBs are going to reply with their best interest at heart. Totally expected and explains the difference in answers

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Its ALWAYS like that here. In this forum the MBs are speaking as employers (selfish ones), but they'd give their daughters and friends very different advice. In the nanny forum you should disclose any everything to your employer as soon as possible! If you want real job advice (pregnancy, negotiating, interviewing, etc.) go to the main forum and get honest advice, not self serving advice.

This is untrue and unfair, and the very reason this board is often so polarizing and unpleasant. If you insistent on lumping all MBs or all nannies into one homogenous group there is no room for genuine, helpful advice. And genuine helpful advice does often come from all sides here, even in the midst of the nastiness - as I think is reflected in this thread.

Did you read the other thread? Completely different responses than we got from MBs on this thread. Why?

Well 1. probably different people responding on both boards. 2. As it has been pointed out many times by nannies, nanny jobs and other jobs are very different and can't be treated the same.

That said, I gave the same advice in both threads on what I would do if it were me in OP's position.

It might be different people on different threads, but the stark contrast in advise is recurring theme. The same question posted here and there gets you very different responses almost all the time. That is what I am talking about. The advice you get here is coming from a different prospective, and while occasionally useful, is not coming from a place of the best interests of the nanny, rather the employer. I'm sorry you take offense to that conclusion.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its ALWAYS like that here. In this forum the MBs are speaking as employers (selfish ones), but they'd give their daughters and friends very different advice. In the nanny forum you should disclose any everything to your employer as soon as possible! If you want real job advice (pregnancy, negotiating, interviewing, etc.) go to the main forum and get honest advice, not self serving advice.

This is untrue and unfair, and the very reason this board is often so polarizing and unpleasant. If you insistent on lumping all MBs or all nannies into one homogenous group there is no room for genuine, helpful advice. And genuine helpful advice does often come from all sides here, even in the midst of the nastiness - as I think is reflected in this thread.

Did you read the other thread? Completely different responses than we got from MBs on this thread. Why?

Well 1. probably different people responding on both boards. 2. As it has been pointed out many times by nannies, nanny jobs and other jobs are very different and can't be treated the same.

That said, I gave the same advice in both threads on what I would do if it were me in OP's position.

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Anonymous wrote:Its ALWAYS like that here. In this forum the MBs are speaking as employers (selfish ones), but they'd give their daughters and friends very different advice. In the nanny forum you should disclose any everything to your employer as soon as possible! If you want real job advice (pregnancy, negotiating, interviewing, etc.) go to the main forum and get honest advice, not self serving advice.

This is untrue and unfair, and the very reason this board is often so polarizing and unpleasant. If you insistent on lumping all MBs or all nannies into one homogenous group there is no room for genuine, helpful advice. And genuine helpful advice does often come from all sides here, even in the midst of the nastiness - as I think is reflected in this thread.

Did you read the other thread? Completely different responses than we got from MBs on this thread. Why?

Anonymous wrote:Its ALWAYS like that here. In this forum the MBs are speaking as employers (selfish ones), but they'd give their daughters and friends very different advice. In the nanny forum you should disclose any everything to your employer as soon as possible! If you want real job advice (pregnancy, negotiating, interviewing, etc.) go to the main forum and get honest advice, not self serving advice.

This is untrue and unfair, and the very reason this board is often so polarizing and unpleasant. If you insistent on lumping all MBs or all nannies into one homogenous group there is no room for genuine, helpful advice. And genuine helpful advice does often come from all sides here, even in the midst of the nastiness - as I think is reflected in this thread.

Its ALWAYS like that here. In this forum the MBs are speaking as employers (selfish ones), but they'd give their daughters and friends very different advice. In the nanny forum you should disclose any everything to your employer as soon as possible! If you want real job advice (pregnancy, negotiating, interviewing, etc.) go to the main forum and get honest advice, not self serving advice.

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Anonymous wrote:Look in the jobs and careers section to see how it works. "Full disclosure" thread. Very interesting.

I'm pretty sure that post is the same OP of this post...

Link?

OP here again. I found it: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/364339.page

The differences in the answers are very interesting to say the least!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look in the jobs and careers section to see how it works. "Full disclosure" thread. Very interesting.

I'm pretty sure that post is the same OP of this post...

Link?

OP here. Thank you all for your advice. I will consider discussing the trip during the interview, if I think there is a strong possibility of us both wanting to work together.

And no I am not the OP of the other post, I'm not even sure what post you all are referring to, but I am off to find it!

Anonymous wrote:Look in the jobs and careers section to see how it works. "Full disclosure" thread. Very interesting.

I'm pretty sure that post is the same OP of this post...