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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, the TV doesn't seem like too big of an issue assuming it's not a constant thing. I imagine it could be rectified in the future by making sure you communicate that you do have back-up care if she needs a day off. I don't think not paying her for extra sick days is unfair, it's how most jobs work. You might consider offering her extra PTO if she is coming in sick because she is worried about money and you are happy with her work in general, but that's at your discretion. The biggest issue here seems like the fact that her schedule does not offer the flexibility you need. You may need to look into other options- a nanny with a more flexible schedule, nanny share, daycare, etc. to find the best option for you and your schedule.[/quote]

OP here. You are right on with all your points.  There's some other background here that I didn't mention in trying to stay on topic.  But I have actually spoken with her recently about needing some kind of change in our arrangement, because it wasn't working out financially for us.  I'm not going to go into it but it didn't go well.  She was in a tough situation and this was the last thing she needed.  Some other things transpired, and I agreed to keep her on for another 6 months or so.

On another subject, there's a lot of talk on this forum regarding sick days, snow days, pto. And how it would be considered ludicrous to not offer these things.  But giving it some thought, I humbly disagree. I think it's a nice thing to do for your nanny and something the employer should decide on.  I work on contract. I get no pto, no sick days, no snow days, no holidays. If I don't work, I don't get paid.  My husband gets vacation but he doesn't get sick days or snow days. So I take issue with some of the opinions on this forum that assert that these things are some sort of required benefits for the nanny.
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Come back after 6 months and let us know how it's going with nanny/ies who you don't give paid sick days to.
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I'm not OP but she didn't say she doesn't give paid sick days. She said the nanny used up all her PTO/sick days. That's the real world. In any job, if you use up all your time off you don't get more. You can't say you want to be treated like any other job but then ask for special exceptions. [/quote]

She said in the above post that she takes issue with PTO and Paid vacation being required benefits.
Doesn't seem as though she plans to offer it to her next nanny.
Perhaps OP can clarify.
I do agree that once a nanny (or anyone else) uses her PTO, any additional days off should be unpaid, unless the nanny caught an illness from your children or she is unable to work due to inclimate weather.
Some may not believe that PTO should be a required benefit for a nanny, but it is.
You, of course, can decline to offer these.  I can promise that you'll be unhappy with the caliber of employee you'll attract.[/quote]

OP here. I offer my current nanny, who is part-time, 10 days PTO, 6 paid holidays, a holiday bonus, and a very competitive hourly rate.  In addition, she can take additional time off whenever she wants, unpaid.  I feel that these benefits are ABOVE and beyond what is required, but you know what, I wanted to attract a great caregiver for our child.  Sick days and snow days were never part of our agreement, but guess what, when she couldn't come in, or when she was too sick to come in, I still paid her because I like her and want to keep her, and I didn't feel like she was purposely missing days.

In addition, she has had no flexibility in her work schedule recently because of personal stuff going on in her life, which hurts me because my workflow is so erratic.  At the end of the day, for my current work situation, what does this amount to?  In the last 6 months alone, I must have paid her for about 45+ days where I couldn't work, but still had to pay her.  Which means that after paying her, I pretty much broke even in the last 6 months, and made no income.  Nevertheless, I'm still glad I'm working, as it keeps me in the job market, and it will help secure my future earning potential.

So yes, you are right.  In 6 months, IF we do decide to hire a new nanny, I am seriously considering offering no PTO, but a significantly higher hourly rate to make up for it.  Is this truly an absurd idea?  I'm honestly asking.  It would just work better for my working arrangement.

There are many, many people who don't get PTO in their jobs.  Yes, the majority do, but that still leaves everyone else.  I think it's unfair to say that every family is REQUIRED to offer PTO, just because "most" other jobs do.  I think it's up to the individual family and caregiver to agree on.

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