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[quote=Anonymous]OP, I'm an MB.  My kids are only toddlers, so I haven't yet deal with the ages you're managing but even my two year olds help clean everything up before they go to bed.

I would absolutely support you in trying to get these kids (and their parents) to show some more responsibility.  But the way you've described it does make it sound like the parents are a problem.

Maybe you could sit down with the parents and tell them that you're really working with the kids on establishing a pattern of cleaning up, taking responsibility for their personal space, etc... and you'd like to ask for their help (if they're supportive of what you're doing) with carrying through one or two basic rules in the evenings or weekends.  Then pick a couple of rules (5 minutes of cleanup before bed, or before dessert or whatever) that aren't too threatening and are (seemingly) aimed at teaching the kids good skills.

If the parents think they're supporting a request from you to help teach their kids, maybe they'll be more receptive and supportive than if they feel like they're being questioned in some way.

Sounds kind of tough honestly but good luck![/quote]

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