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Anonymous wrote:I think the big issue is that the majority of nannies/housekeepers can't grasp that pay scale. I see that it's a fair pay, but the ability for them to understand this is limited.

I'd simply post a $17/hr hourly rate and pay them for hours worked. It will save you money in the long run.


Clearly Op can't budget though, which is why she came up with the convoluted system in the first place. She wants to pay exactly the same amount each week, whether nanny works 1 hour or 40. She's basically overpaying up front to pay less over the summer, which is why ANY nanny that finished High School would work half the year for the good money and then bail for the summer and take a better job.


Actually, I wanted to frame it this way because if I go straight hourly, then I don't think the job would be as appealing. We take a ton of time off. However, given the attitude and work ethic you seem to attribute to all nannies, I'm better off offering a guaranteed 20hrs a week and paying out 2 weeks vacation at the guaranteed rate. As others pointed out, it will probably save me in the long run, rather than paying out a flat 500 during the summer for the 3.5 weeks the nanny would be off.

Or I could just hire someone with integrity.....


Someone with integrity costs more than $12 an hour hun


OP here. How does 26,000 divided by 1465=12? Head injury?

This is assuming that my kids would attend no camps and I would go on no vacations. This year alone, our AP has 6 weeks off. My housekkper/nanny would be paid 52 weeks.

IF You are indicative of tbe intellect of the candidstes out there, i will offer $17. Clearly this is a concept well over your pay grade.


Oh bless your dear heart. You wrote $12.50/hr in your original post for the summer based on the weekly rate and the hours required. No nanny will follow along with your deal after you drop their hourly rate so low. You are a bad employer.


I have to now agree with the OP. Head injury.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the big issue is that the majority of nannies/housekeepers can't grasp that pay scale. I see that it's a fair pay, but the ability for them to understand this is limited.

I'd simply post a $17/hr hourly rate and pay them for hours worked. It will save you money in the long run.


Clearly Op can't budget though, which is why she came up with the convoluted system in the first place. She wants to pay exactly the same amount each week, whether nanny works 1 hour or 40. She's basically overpaying up front to pay less over the summer, which is why ANY nanny that finished High School would work half the year for the good money and then bail for the summer and take a better job.


Actually, I wanted to frame it this way because if I go straight hourly, then I don't think the job would be as appealing. We take a ton of time off. However, given the attitude and work ethic you seem to attribute to all nannies, I'm better off offering a guaranteed 20hrs a week and paying out 2 weeks vacation at the guaranteed rate. As others pointed out, it will probably save me in the long run, rather than paying out a flat 500 during the summer for the 3.5 weeks the nanny would be off.

Or I could just hire someone with integrity.....


Someone with integrity costs more than $12 an hour hun


OP here. How does 26,000 divided by 1465=12? Head injury?

This is assuming that my kids would attend no camps and I would go on no vacations. This year alone, our AP has 6 weeks off. My housekkper/nanny would be paid 52 weeks.

IF You are indicative of tbe intellect of the candidstes out there, i will offer $17. Clearly this is a concept well over your pay grade.


Oh bless your dear heart. You wrote $12.50/hr in your original post for the summer based on the weekly rate and the hours required. No nanny will follow along with your deal after you drop their hourly rate so low. You are a bad employer.


Yea I didn't understand why OP was trying to cheat a nanny like this. Foolish if she thinks she will keep someone.
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If I worked for you all year doing part time hours for $500 paychecks and then summer rolls around and now you have me coming in early and staying all day theres no way I would stick around. Your original rate isn't even all that appealing so it would be no effort to find a higher paying job or one with better hours.
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OP, even though they're being mean about it, the folks here have nailed the problem with this offer. It only works if the person stays the whole year. If she quits midway through, you're going to have a really hard time finding someone for the summer hours at $500/wk, and you will have been paying that all along.

Instead, pay hourly, but guarantee whatever the hours are (I don't understand your point about taking time off; you still need to guarantee the hours and pay 52 weeks a year; the number of hours you guarantee can change). So the job you advertise would be 15 hours during the school year (guaranteed) and 40 hours during the summer (guaranteed). I would have vacation accrue by number of hours rather than days, so it will accrue more slowly during the year, and faster over the summer.
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I'm in Ashburn. OP will have people stampeding to this job.

I put out an ad on care.com for $16/hr for a part time nanny and the response made me dizzy. It was overwhelming. I had no shortage of very qualified and very mature applicants. If she posts this atime 17 like her follow up said with a guaranteed 20 during the school year and 30 in summer, she will pay less in the long run and have a great native English speaker.
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You'd be surprised at the amount of applicants who apply to $10/hr jobs when the guaranteed income is a steady $500/week cash, even though their posted preferred rate is $15 or $12-$20. Your best bet will be a grad student taking online classes or evening classes (undergrads not that used to doing housework), people in their 50s or 60s with kids out of the school system. Or illegals.
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The hours I require during the school year are 12:30PM-5:30PM (probably off closer to 5:15, but this time block just in case). From 12:30PM to 3PM I need someone to do basic grocery shopping, laundry, straighten the house, run errands as needed, basic meal prep (like chop onions, start rice, peel potatoes type stuff). Around 3, get the kids from school, make the a snack, let them play (prevent them from killing each other), supervise their chores, get them started on homework, and possibly drive them to a practice or activity. Kids are 7 & 11.

Summer hours would be a flat 40 guaranteed, but in reality my kids are in half day camps every other week or so. Same house duties as above. Sometimes the day would be 7-3, sometimes 9-5. As far as going to the grocery store and other short errands, kids are old enough to be left at home. Again, the nanny is needed for supervision, these are not toddler children.

2 weeks vacation of your choice, all federal holidays off, and paid when the family takes vacation (this year we are taking a 3.5 week vacation in the summer, on week at Christmas, and 1 week at spring break and would not require nanny to take her vacation at the same time-the 3.5 weeks is NOT normal, normally it s 1 week in summer and a total of 3-4 weeks vacation for our family).

I'd like to do a flat rate of $500/wk, 52 weeks a year.

That would basically mean an average of $20/hr during the school year and $12.50 during the summer. Any potential OT (highly unlikely with the camp schedule, most likely nanny would be sub 40hrs) during the summer would be paid at the $12.50 time and a half rate, exceeding the flat $500 weekly rate.

Based on my calculations, this job would average out to 28.7hrs a week over 52 weeks and $17.74/hr at that flat rate and a potential for 4 weeks off paid a year, plus fed holidays.


OP, I am wondering how illness and teacher workdays and holidays from school will be handled? Will you pay extra for those days, or just assume they are covered by the "high" rate during the school year? Also, have you confirmed with your county/state that your children are old enough for the housekeeper to leave them home alone? Personally, I would want proof of that as well as a signed statement from you stating you had ordered me to follow your wishes and leave your kids home.

I would prepare a bit for interviews by printing out comparison charts, so you can give candidates their choice of a dependable weekly rate, or a fluctuating weekly rate between school weeks and non-school weeks. Choose an hourly rate that will NOT fluctuate for nthe second choice, do your calculations, and make up simple charts.

I would also offer guaranteed hours considering this will be a fairly low paying job. You will be likely to lose candidates when they hear they will not be paid when YOU choose to leave town or not use their services.

Obviously, you need to figure out your max budget for this - if you can pay no more than 26K, and don't plan to pay taxes, that's one thing, and you might be better off sticking with an AP. If you can afford to pay more, figure out how much more, and do your math

In my state, for a typical school year of 44 weeks, with about 8 weeks off during the school year (including break weeks, teacher work days, and the rare sick day), I would be paying for 36 20 hour weeks, and 16 40 hour weeks. Let's pretend my max budget is 26K and I an avoiding paying taxes. 720 hours plus 640 hours is 1360 total. 26000/1360 = $19.12/hour.

So the options you offer the candidates are:

$500/week - Steady dependable pay 52 weeks per year based on being available to work 1360 hours/year, or an "average" of 26 hours/week. Some weeks 20 hours, some weeks more, up to 40 hours depending on illness and school being closed/holidays. Total pay is $26,000/year

$19/hour, calculated weekly. "Typical" weekly hours guaranteed, additional pay when hours exceed the typical amount. Most weeks $380/gross. Approximately 16 weeks in the summer and through the school year, $760/gross. Best guess on yearly wages, (36 x 380) + (16 x 760) = $13,680 + $12,160 = $25,840
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When NannyDeb says your job and compensation package sucks you know you dun screw'd up!
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Anonymous wrote:You'd be surprised at the amount of applicants who apply to $10/hr jobs when the guaranteed income is a steady $500/week cash, even though their posted preferred rate is $15 or $12-$20. Your best bet will be a grad student taking online classes or evening classes (undergrads not that used to doing housework), people in their 50s or 60s with kids out of the school system. Or illegals.

Not everyone wants your shamefully low standards.
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I live in Loudoun county and am interested. Let me know if the position is still open
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