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01/28/2015 12:11

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Anonymous wrote:To have someone work a ten hour day without paying overtime would be illegal.

No on the east

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01/28/2015 12:17

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Anonymous

OP, nannies are very petty with money and they aren't very bright so what I would do is in your ad say that you WILL be paying OT even though it's only 40 hours a week and then state a salary instead of hourly rate, but make it so it doesn't divide evenly, so like $745 for a 40 hour week. The numbers will throw off the nanny-radar and you will get a lot more applicants.

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01/28/2015 12:21

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:OP, nannies are very petty with money and they aren't very bright so what I would do is in your ad say that you WILL be paying OT even though it's only 40 hours a week and then state a salary instead of hourly rate, but make it so it doesn't divide evenly, so like $745 for a 40 hour week. The numbers will throw off the nanny-radar and you will get a lot more applicants.

You're an idiot.

Where did you come from, and why have you taken up residence here? Do you employ a nanny? Are you comfortable with someone you think so low of influencing you child daily? Some of her low-income, and stupidity could rub off you know!

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01/28/2015 12:58

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I think two half days isn't as appealing as a full 3 day weekend every week. Is there a way for you to compress your childcare needs to M-TH with 10 hrs/day each?

Could you or your husband get a compressed work schedule so you don't need care every Friday? That way Grams isn't doing a full day every week.

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01/28/2015 13:09

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:I think your schedule makes it obvious that you're trying to avoid overtime, and it it would make your job less attractive to me because of the lack of OT, and because you look like someone who cuts corners. Where else would you try to skimp? Are you going to be one of those parents who gets mad when they have to pay for hours they didn't use, even though you agreed to guaranteed hours? What about days your mom can't come? Are you going to expect me to be available? It just makes you look like a less desirable employer OP. that is your problem, not your rate.

You're ridiculous. OP has done nothing wrong - she needs help for 40 hours/week - that's full time. Everything else is none of your business and your judgment is utterly obnoxious. I pity whomever is stuck w/ you as a nanny.

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01/28/2015 13:11

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Two half days wouldn't work for many because it would be a pain to get a second job for just afternoons. 4 full days would get you tons of applicants because the nanny could get a second job, have a long weekend or have more class options. Most nannies are used to working 45-55 hours regularly and count on the over time.

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01/28/2015 13:17

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Anonymous wrote:Two half days wouldn't work for many because it would be a pain to get a second job for just afternoons. 4 full days would get you tons of applicants because the nanny could get a second job, have a long weekend or have more class options. Most nannies are used to working 45-55 hours regularly and count on the over time.

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01/28/2015 13:20

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:I think your schedule makes it obvious that you're trying to avoid overtime, and it it would make your job less attractive to me because of the lack of OT, and because you look like someone who cuts corners. Where else would you try to skimp? Are you going to be one of those parents who gets mad when they have to pay for hours they didn't use, even though you agreed to guaranteed hours? What about days your mom can't come? Are you going to expect me to be available? It just makes you look like a less desirable employer OP. that is your problem, not your rate.

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01/28/2015 13:21

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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:I think your schedule makes it obvious that you're trying to avoid overtime, and it it would make your job less attractive to me because of the lack of OT, and because you look like someone who cuts corners. Where else would you try to skimp? Are you going to be one of those parents who gets mad when they have to pay for hours they didn't use, even though you agreed to guaranteed hours? What about days your mom can't come? Are you going to expect me to be available? It just makes you look like a less desirable employer OP. that is your problem, not your rate.

You're ridiculous. OP has done nothing wrong - she needs help for 40 hours/week - that's full time. Everything else is none of your business and your judgment is utterly obnoxious. I pity whomever is stuck w/ you as a nanny.

OP asked why she isn't getting candidates, and I gave my opinion, just as everyone else on the thread. It is clear from the schedule and having grandma come to fill in that OP is trying to avoid OT. That to me makes it look like OP is trying to cut corners and I'd be wary. You're the only one being obnoxious.

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01/28/2015 13:37

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If you are too cheap to pay OT, you can't afford a nanny.

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01/28/2015 14:29

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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think your schedule makes it obvious that you're trying to avoid overtime, and it it would make your job less attractive to me because of the lack of OT, and because you look like someone who cuts corners. Where else would you try to skimp? Are you going to be one of those parents who gets mad when they have to pay for hours they didn't use, even though you agreed to guaranteed hours? What about days your mom can't come? Are you going to expect me to be available? It just makes you look like a less desirable employer OP. that is your problem, not your rate.

You're ridiculous. OP has done nothing wrong - she needs help for 40 hours/week - that's full time. Everything else is none of your business and your judgment is utterly obnoxious. I pity whomever is stuck w/ you as a nanny.

OP asked why she isn't getting candidates, and I gave my opinion, just as everyone else on the thread. It is clear from the schedule and having grandma come to fill in that OP is trying to avoid OT. That to me makes it look like OP is trying to cut corners and I'd be wary. You're the only one being obnoxious.

What's the problem with only paying for what she needs? She doesn't happen to need the nanny for more than 40 hrs a week. Why should she have to pay for something she has no use for?

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01/28/2015 15:07

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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think your schedule makes it obvious that you're trying to avoid overtime, and it it would make your job less attractive to me because of the lack of OT, and because you look like someone who cuts corners. Where else would you try to skimp? Are you going to be one of those parents who gets mad when they have to pay for hours they didn't use, even though you agreed to guaranteed hours? What about days your mom can't come? Are you going to expect me to be available? It just makes you look like a less desirable employer OP. that is your problem, not your rate.

You're ridiculous. OP has done nothing wrong - she needs help for 40 hours/week - that's full time. Everything else is none of your business and your judgment is utterly obnoxious. I pity whomever is stuck w/ you as a nanny.

OP asked why she isn't getting candidates, and I gave my opinion, just as everyone else on the thread. It is clear from the schedule and having grandma come to fill in that OP is trying to avoid OT. That to me makes it look like OP is trying to cut corners and I'd be wary. You're the only one being obnoxious.

What's the problem with only paying for what she needs? She doesn't happen to need the nanny for more than 40 hrs a week. Why should she have to pay for something she has no use for?

I never said she was doing anything wrong. I said the way she's set it up makes it very obvious to any candidates what she is doing. It's not wrong, but it does make it look like she is going the extra mile to cut costs. If you were interviewing at a company for a new job, and you saw indications everywhere that they were cheap and were trying to cut costs, would that company still be attractive to you? Wouldn't you wonder just how far this cost-cutting goes? Or wouldn't you be concerned that the company might be having money problems, or has taken on more than they can afford? I also stated that another concern that I would have is whether or not OP has a plan for when her mother is unavailable, and does that plan involve me having to drop everything and work those extra hours? Like others have said, a 40 hour, 4 day work week is much more attractive than what OP has laid out.

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01/28/2015 15:10

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think your schedule makes it obvious that you're trying to avoid overtime, and it it would make your job less attractive to me because of the lack of OT, and because you look like someone who cuts corners. Where else would you try to skimp? Are you going to be one of those parents who gets mad when they have to pay for hours they didn't use, even though you agreed to guaranteed hours? What about days your mom can't come? Are you going to expect me to be available? It just makes you look like a less desirable employer OP. that is your problem, not your rate.

You're ridiculous. OP has done nothing wrong - she needs help for 40 hours/week - that's full time. Everything else is none of your business and your judgment is utterly obnoxious. I pity whomever is stuck w/ you as a nanny.

OP asked why she isn't getting candidates, and I gave my opinion, just as everyone else on the thread. It is clear from the schedule and having grandma come to fill in that OP is trying to avoid OT. That to me makes it look like OP is trying to cut corners and I'd be wary. You're the only one being obnoxious.

What's the problem with only paying for what she needs? She doesn't happen to need the nanny for more than 40 hrs a week. Why should she have to pay for something she has no use for?

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I have our structured for 40 hours as I don't want to have to guarantee more than 40 when regularly I don't need it. That is why we pay $18... our nanny previously made less but worked 50+. I encountered several during interviewing who wanted to keep closer to 40 hours. Oh, and guess what... just because someone doesn't wnat to pay OT doesn't mean they can't afford a nanny. Get a grip nannys!

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01/28/2015 15:24

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I think that a previous suggestion of afternoons M, 10 hours days Tu - Th and mornings F might help, or doing what you must to make this a 4 day job.

If it was 4 days, nanny could get a 1 day/week position, could just enjoy her long weekends, or could plan to schedule her personal appointments on Fridays.

Your rate is fine, IMO, but many nannies count on OT to make ends meet. A 40 hour/week job at $720 will generally lose out to a 50 hour week at $990 (all other things being equal) simply because of CoL issues.

Another thing to consider is what you will do if you set up the job to have your mom there and your mom runs out of energy once baby is self-propelled. Will you then expect nanny to change her situation to cover the extra hours?

You also might consider what additional benefits you could offer to make the job more attractive.

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01/28/2015 15:29

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think your schedule makes it obvious that you're trying to avoid overtime, and it it would make your job less attractive to me because of the lack of OT, and because you look like someone who cuts corners. Where else would you try to skimp? Are you going to be one of those parents who gets mad when they have to pay for hours they didn't use, even though you agreed to guaranteed hours? What about days your mom can't come? Are you going to expect me to be available? It just makes you look like a less desirable employer OP. that is your problem, not your rate.

You're ridiculous. OP has done nothing wrong - she needs help for 40 hours/week - that's full time. Everything else is none of your business and your judgment is utterly obnoxious. I pity whomever is stuck w/ you as a nanny.

OP asked why she isn't getting candidates, and I gave my opinion, just as everyone else on the thread. It is clear from the schedule and having grandma come to fill in that OP is trying to avoid OT. That to me makes it look like OP is trying to cut corners and I'd be wary. You're the only one being obnoxious.

What's the problem with only paying for what she needs? She doesn't happen to need the nanny for more than 40 hrs a week. Why should she have to pay for something she has no use for?

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I have our structured for 40 hours as I don't want to have to guarantee more than 40 when regularly I don't need it. That is why we pay $18... our nanny previously made less but worked 50+. I encountered several during interviewing who wanted to keep closer to 40 hours. Oh, and guess what... just because someone doesn't wnat to pay OT doesn't mean they can't afford a nanny. Get a grip nannys!

I have your back on this OP - totally with you.

If OP were looking to be cheap she wouldn't be paying anywhere near $18/hr. She could easily find childcare for 50 hours a week at $15 or even less per hour. I know - I've done it. $18/hr for one baby, in the suburbs, is EXTREMELY competitive pay. Hourly rate is not her problem. Though trying to find supportive advice here is a problem for many rational folks - nannies and employers.

Stop looking to make everyone out to be evil.