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Anonymous
Op is a troll or jealous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Gee...It sounds to me as if you are saying to us that you feel the nanny does not deserve to be in the playgroup because she is not an experienced mother like the rest of you.

But I thought playgroups were for the kids, not the adults.

Or am I wrong here??

Why should you care if a nanny is present? So what if she is not a mother yet or if she is younger than the rest of you? It doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve to be included in our conversation at all.

You sound like a snob to me.



You are wrong. They are for mom's to make friends.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
But I thought playgroups were for the kids, not the adults.



I don't know if she's a snob, but for young kids the play groups are as much about the adults socializing as anything else, maybe that was even the main goal. Kids are too young to need or value play dates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My nanny did play dates with some moms that she had "nothing in common with". Most of the SAHMs weren't nice or welcoming to her, but a few were and invited her to play groups and I noticed and was grateful.

The nanny is a human being. You probably have something in common with her if you make an effort and if you don't have anything in common with her, you could find out some new things.

And yes, the nanny probably feels uncomfortable and out of place. So you can either help her not feel that way or keep talking to the other moms and ignore her. Your choice.


Nobody is debating whether she is a human being. She's probably very nice. But are you having other people's nannies over to socialize with you on weekends? Just for coffee or to hang out at your house? My guess is you are not, because you have limited social time and prefer to spend it with the people you choose to. It's presumptuous for WOHMs with nannies to assume that a SAHM will be happy to hang out with their nanny.


Are you listening to yourself? The nanny is a human being, but not the type you want to hang out with. Because she's a nanny.

My nanny only did play dates with SAHMs who invited her. She developed relationships with some of them separate from me. Presumably these SAHMs were able to look past her leper nanny status and they actually liked her.

The OP doesn't clarify how the nanny got involved in this group, but I'm guessing it might have been some kind of generic gathering posted on a list serve and the nanny joined at the direction of the mom. If Mom A was friends with Moms B-F and invited all the moms over and then nanny crashed the party, I agree with you it's weird. Otherwise, OP and the other meanie moms should get over themselves.
Anonymous
I'm a nanny and for the most part having play groups with SAHM is painful.

In my experience, the mothers can be exclusive and you can very easily be left out. I once went to a local play group that my boss had signed us up for...it was horrible. The SAHM all went into the kitchen to drink and chat, I was left with all the children. I was the free help. I was too young to speak up for myself, but I knew I was being used. Some if the mothers even gossiped about my boss right in front of me, I never felt so invisible. Of course I let my MB know how it went, and thankfully she understood and I didn't have to go anymore.

Most nannies would much rather set up play groups with other nannies. I'd be as welcoming as possible....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gee...It sounds to me as if you are saying to us that you feel the nanny does not deserve to be in the playgroup because she is not an experienced mother like the rest of you.

But I thought playgroups were for the kids, not the adults.

Or am I wrong here??

Why should you care if a nanny is present? So what if she is not a mother yet or if she is younger than the rest of you? It doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve to be included in our conversation at all.

You sound like a snob to me.



You are wrong. They are for mom's to make friends.

Why can't a mom be friendly with a nanny?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and for the most part having play groups with SAHM is painful.

In my experience, the mothers can be exclusive and you can very easily be left out. I once went to a local play group that my boss had signed us up for...it was horrible. The SAHM all went into the kitchen to drink and chat, I was left with all the children. I was the free help. I was too young to speak up for myself, but I knew I was being used. Some if the mothers even gossiped about my boss right in front of me, I never felt so invisible. Of course I let my MB know how it went, and thankfully she understood and I didn't have to go anymore.

Most nannies would much rather set up play groups with other nannies. I'd be as welcoming as possible....


That sounds awful. I have seen this Queen Bee bullshit with some SAHMs first hand. I used to work part-time and on my one day off I would go to the same playground every week. None of the SAHMs would talk to me. I ended up befriending the nannies, who were all lovely and friendly.

I'm talking, my child would be playing with their children (the kids were at an age were we as caregivers all had to hover pretty nearby...early walkers) and despite my smiling and standing in the group, they would completely ignore me and act like I wasn't there.

So gross.
Anonymous
I'm the PP, but wanted to add that not all my exchanges with SAHM have been negative.


My last employers had really chill friends. We got along well, and even became friends outside of work. We may have had a big age gap, and no I don't have children of my own but we still enjoyed each others company.


I think with some groups, things just become cliquish. I think the previous situation was due to this socialite mentality.
Anonymous
I'm a nanny who has been in a few playgroups with sahm's and they have all gone well. I never felt unwelcomed. I made a few friends actually. They didn't seem to care that I was 25 and they were 35.
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