Shutdown and furlough

[Anonymous]

Just visit your local playground on a weekday, to see for yourselves how people our communicating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Just visit your local playground on a weekday, to see for yourselves how people our communicating.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nannies are no more deserving of a paycheck than the federal employees. If the fed employee isn't receiving a paycheck then the nanny isn't receiving one either. Its simple. Nannies can bitch all they want but you aren't special.

No one is special, but everyone can file for their unemployment checks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You do realize that if all the families who did not meet your bar as wealthy enough to afford a nanny stopped hiring nannies, then there would a huge drop in the number of jobs available to nannies. This would drive your rates into the toilet. Many wealthy families are not irresponsible about money. They aren't going to pay you way above market for kicks and giggles. The supply of nannies would be so large that there would be no issue letting go of a nanny that you didn't need because you are so replaceable. You would be back in the exact same situation and would just be poorer going into it.

You aren't getting it. There are tons of women calling themselves nannies, there are not tons of nannies. There are lots of families that think they can afford a nanny, but few who actually can. The result is a split market, one of middle class families paying low to average wages for your run of the mill sitter, and wealthy families paying experienced educated talented women what many here call obscene wages. If the first scenario works for you and your nanny, great! A real nanny has a good enough command of the common language to communicate clearly with you and your child (that eliminates probably 75% of so called nannies right there). She provides more than supervision for her charges, understanding how a child develops, and is able to choose and plan enriching activities. She also cares for her charges every need, and isn't on this board complaining about how every little thing isn't her job, and how uninvolved the parents are, because truthfully the parents with the money to hire a real nanny are by nature not incredibly involved in the minutiae of caring for their child. A real nanny is experienced and qualified enough to be self directed. She doesn't wait around for instructions, because realistically her bosses are not around and little Larla/Aiden need dinner/have outgrown their winter shoes/need to go to the doctor.

You are entitled to your opinion just like anyone else, but the peril of your field is that it is entirely free of regulation and credentialing. In the absence of definition of "nanny", what you call a nanny is just as good a guess as anyone's - all you have to go on is your opinion. There are no barriers to entry, no rules, no standards, no guidelines, no exams, no credentials. In the absence of formal structures, you are now trying to make the socioeconomic class of the employers into a de facto separator of nannies from non-nannies. It may be true, or it may not be, no one really knows. My guess is that rich people are just as entrenched in groupthink as anyone else and are likely to hire nannies who look like them, talk like them and have looked after a little Aiden next door last year. I doubt there is any actual examination of credentials going on there.

Finally, your dig at 75% of "sitters" who allegedly cannot communicate clearly with MBs or children says more about you than them,you know.

Very true! So condescending and presumptuous. Also completely untrue in my experience.

Right. There aren't tons of MBs who don't speak a lick of Spanish hiring nannies who speak 3 words of English, pointing and grunting at each other. I'm a nanny, I've seen it. I go to the park and I'm the only one speaking English, while these "nannies" are parked on a bench on the phone or talking to each other, occasionally looking up to yell at their charge in their native language. But they're cheap! And you get to say you have a nanny! The joy!

[Anonymous]

We've all seen the exact same thing, 12:43.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We've all seen the exact same thing, 12:43.

I am an MB and definitely seen what 12:43 is talking about in our local park in North Bethesda. just makes me feel so good for our nanny who I know is now parked on the bench with her ass blabing on the phone in Spanish and ignoring my child

[Anonymous]

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Just visit your local playground on a weekday, to see for yourselves how people our communicating.

If this posting is reflective of your real-life English skills, you have no business criticizing Hispanic nannies.

[Anonymous]

There are also spanish speaking nannies who are fantastic, and fluent in English as well.

Our nanny immigrated here, learned English, became a citizen and has helped raise more than a dozen children. I have never-ending respect for her work ethic, her determination, her experience, and her capabilities.

I'd want her in my (or my kids') corner over a small minded, judgmental American who is barely literate in their native language and somehow still thinks they're superior every single day of the week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do realize that if all the families who did not meet your bar as wealthy enough to afford a nanny stopped hiring nannies, then there would a huge drop in the number of jobs available to nannies. This would drive your rates into the toilet. Many wealthy families are not irresponsible about money. They aren't going to pay you way above market for kicks and giggles. The supply of nannies would be so large that there would be no issue letting go of a nanny that you didn't need because you are so replaceable. You would be back in the exact same situation and would just be poorer going into it.

You aren't getting it. There are tons of women calling themselves nannies, there are not tons of nannies. There are lots of families that think they can afford a nanny, but few who actually can. The result is a split market, one of middle class families paying low to average wages for your run of the mill sitter, and wealthy families paying experienced educated talented women what many here call obscene wages. If the first scenario works for you and your nanny, great! A real nanny has a good enough command of the common language to communicate clearly with you and your child (that eliminates probably 75% of so called nannies right there). She provides more than supervision for her charges, understanding how a child develops, and is able to choose and plan enriching activities. She also cares for her charges every need, and isn't on this board complaining about how every little thing isn't her job, and how uninvolved the parents are, because truthfully the parents with the money to hire a real nanny are by nature not incredibly involved in the minutiae of caring for their child. A real nanny is experienced and qualified enough to be self directed. She doesn't wait around for instructions, because realistically her bosses are not around and little Larla/Aiden need dinner/have outgrown their winter shoes/need to go to the doctor.

You are entitled to your opinion just like anyone else, but the peril of your field is that it is entirely free of regulation and credentialing. In the absence of definition of "nanny", what you call a nanny is just as good a guess as anyone's - all you have to go on is your opinion. There are no barriers to entry, no rules, no standards, no guidelines, no exams, no credentials. In the absence of formal structures, you are now trying to make the socioeconomic class of the employers into a de facto separator of nannies from non-nannies. It may be true, or it may not be, no one really knows. My guess is that rich people are just as entrenched in groupthink as anyone else and are likely to hire nannies who look like them, talk like them and have looked after a little Aiden next door last year. I doubt there is any actual examination of credentials going on there.

Finally, your dig at 75% of "sitters" who allegedly cannot communicate clearly with MBs or children says more about you than them,you know.

Indeed. Just ask the recent plethora of speech therapists why their business is now booming.

Is there evidence of that, or just your opinion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are also spanish speaking nannies who are fantastic, and fluent in English as well.

Our nanny immigrated here, learned English, became a citizen and has helped raise more than a dozen children. I have never-ending respect for her work ethic, her determination, her experience, and her capabilities.

I'd want her in my (or my kids') corner over a small minded, judgmental American who is barely literate in their native language and somehow still thinks they're superior every single day of the week.

Good God can't you people read? I said a true nanny has a command of the common language and can communicate clearly. I did not say English must be her first language. Nor am I referencing Hispanic nannies specifically. There are lots of languages spoken by the feaux nannies I'm talking about. I just don't understand how some mothers hire women they can't communicate with to care for their child. How did you interview her? What are her child rearing views? Can she communicate her discipline strategies to you? Can she even read your written instructions? My employers ask for my advice on issues all the time. Could you do that with your nanny? What good is her "expertise" if she can't communicate it to you?

[Anonymous]

The amount of blatant errors in spelling, that can't be attributed to autocorrect, in these posts is hilarious. If you can't write properly, you have no business making blanket criticisms of ANYONE ELSE'S command of the English language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The amount of blatant errors in spelling, that can't be attributed to autocorrect, in these posts is hilarious. If you can't write properly, you have no business making blanket criticisms of ANYONE ELSE'S command of the English language.

Honestly, it's embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The amount of blatant errors in spelling, that can't be attributed to autocorrect, in these posts is hilarious. If you can't write properly, you have no business making blanket criticisms of ANYONE ELSE'S command of the English language.

Honestly, it's embarrassing.

Are their opinions being communicated? That's a hell of a lot better than gesturing, grunting, drawing, broken English/Spanish attempts to communicate you must go through with your cheap immigrant "nanny".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The amount of blatant errors in spelling, that can't be attributed to autocorrect, in these posts is hilarious. If you can't write properly, you have no business making blanket criticisms of ANYONE ELSE'S command of the English language.

Honestly, it's embarrassing.

Are their opinions being communicated? That's a hell of a lot better than gesturing, grunting, drawing, broken English/Spanish attempts to communicate you must go through with your cheap immigrant "nanny".

Don't you see the irony of someone criticizing other people's language abilities in an error-filled post?

[Anonymous]

Well.... This thread is no longer relevant AT ALL to the questioned posed..... Nice one ladies!