Nanny Share Rates? Am I lowballing?

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Even $400 per family per week would be low.


No. It would be about right.


No, it would be low. 50 hours a week means 10 hours of OT. $400/55 hours (to account for the OT) is $7.27/hour. That is, in fact, low.

Per family. That's $15.50/hr (thought I'm not sure where you are getting the 55 hours as OP only needs 50) Yes it's on the low side here, but for the area OP is referencing, it isn't so far off.

Personally, if I wanted to pay for a nanny share with 2 kids, I'd start out with the expectation of $20/hr ($10/hr per family).

Because the final 10 hours of that 50 is over time, which means it's paid at time & a half. So 10 OT hours = 15 regular hours. So the pay is equivalent to 55 regular hours. So Nanny Deb is right - OP is offering $7.27/hr pay, which is 2 cents more than minimum wage. OP's not going to find a nanny to share at that rate. She might find a neighbor SAHM who's willing to babysit - my friends do that in the same neighborhood. Some in-homes licensed by the city charge around $200/week so maybe OP would have luck with that.

But none of the major centers in town or any nannies will be able to provide full time childcare at $200/week.

How does it matter what the OP is paying as long as the total $ for the nanny is well above minimum $15.50? Say OP's friend is wealthier and Op pays $5 and friend pays $15 for total of $20 for nanny share is that considered illegal?

Minimum wage is per wage, not per employing family. A business that's jointly owned by two parties doesn't owe its employees double the minimum wage. You are correct that the market rate for nanny shares in this area is above $15/hr but you won't be able to find a source that confirms your notion that it's illegal to offer less than $15.50. Glad to be proven wrong though - any sources on that?

This is 100% incorrect. Each family is viewed as a separate employer in the eyes of the law.
They each-by federal law-must pay the nanny minimum wage.
ease do some research before spreading incorrect information information as truth.

The employers in the nanny share are considered joint employers under the law. They are responsible for paying the nanny a total wage that is above minimum wage.

Here's a direct quote from FLSA which addresses the issue.

A single individual may stand in the relation of an employee to two or more employers at the same time under the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, since there is nothing in the act which prevents an individual employed by one employer from also entering into an employment relationship with a different employer. A determination of whether the employment by the employers is to be considered joint employment or separate and distinct employment for purposes of the act depends upon all the facts in the particular case. If all the relevant facts establish that two or more employers are acting entirely independently of each other and are completely disassociated with respect to the employment of a particular employee, who during the same workweek performs work for more than one employer, each employer may disregard all work performed by the employee for the other employer (or employers) in determining his own responsibilities under the Act. 4 On the other hand, if the facts establish that the employee is employed jointly by two or more employers, i.e., that employment by one employer is not completely disassociated from employment by the other employer(s), all of the employee's work for all of the joint employers during the workweek is considered as one employment for purposes of the Act. In this event, all joint employers are responsible, both individually and jointly, for compliance with all of the applicable provisions of the act, including the overtime provisions, with respect to the entire employment for the particular workweek. 5 In discharging the joint obligation each employer may, of course, take credit toward minimum wage and overtime requirements for all payments made to the employee by the other joint employer or employers.

Unless this issue goes to court, it's unclear which way a judge might rule. So don't be so sure of yourselves, employers.

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The employers in the nanny share are considered joint employers under the law. They are responsible for paying the nanny a total wage that is above minimum wage.

Here's a direct quote from FLSA which addresses the issue.

A single individual may stand in the relation of an employee to two or more employers at the same time under the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, since there is nothing in the act which prevents an individual employed by one employer from also entering into an employment relationship with a different employer. A determination of whether the employment by the employers is to be considered joint employment or separate and distinct employment for purposes of the act depends upon all the facts in the particular case. If all the relevant facts establish that two or more employers are acting entirely independently of each other and are completely disassociated with respect to the employment of a particular employee, who during the same workweek performs work for more than one employer, each employer may disregard all work performed by the employee for the other employer (or employers) in determining his own responsibilities under the Act. 4 On the other hand, if the facts establish that the employee is employed jointly by two or more employers, i.e., that employment by one employer is not completely disassociated from employment by the other employer(s), all of the employee's work for all of the joint employers during the workweek is considered as one employment for purposes of the Act. In this event, all joint employers are responsible, both individually and jointly, for compliance with all of the applicable provisions of the act, including the overtime provisions, with respect to the entire employment for the particular workweek. 5 In discharging the joint obligation each employer may, of course, take credit toward minimum wage and overtime requirements for all payments made to the employee by the other joint employer or employers.

Thanks, PP, for this great information on the actual law and clears up the issue of joint employment.

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Apparently, a judge would decide based on all the facts in the case. It's not automatic either way, as the law is currently written.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband and I are at the begninning stages of looking for childcare. We're thinking about starting a nanny share and are hoping this would mean saving a little money. Please weigh in on whether we're way off base with pay or not. We are in the Landmark area of Alexandria.

Here are the expectations:
-Care for two children under 1 yr. old (Full-time, 50 hrs/week, paid Fed holidays off, summers off unpaid)
-Light child-related housekeeping

Pay: Total of $400/week -$1600/month- ($200/weekly per family)

Do we stand any chance of finding a great nanny at this level of pay?

No, you are not low balling. If you were to use an agency you will get 45 hours of care for approx $360 pay per week. Keep in mind the nannies are will be from another country. But as I am from another country and have lived here for 40 years I rather a foreigner than someone from the US. I think you have o do your research and find a quality person who is willing to accept. You may consider adding another hild to the mix to attract a better nanny.

If I were you I would 1st consider reducing the hours from 50 to 40-45 (no more than 45 hours/ weekly) and if go thru your employer and select the dependent care option this will save you $$ per year, make sure you pay taxes for your nanny and offer a few perks like cell phone, day off from from time to time etc.

Good luck!

Truly yours,
Patty Cakes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband and I are at the begninning stages of looking for childcare. We're thinking about starting a nanny share and are hoping this would mean saving a little money. Please weigh in on whether we're way off base with pay or not. We are in the Landmark area of Alexandria.

Here are the expectations:
-Care for two children under 1 yr. old (Full-time, 50 hrs/week, paid Fed holidays off, summers off unpaid)
-Light child-related housekeeping

Pay: Total of $400/week -$1600/month- ($200/weekly per family)

Do we stand any chance of finding a great nanny at this level of pay?

No, you are not low balling. If you were to use an agency you will get 45 hours of care for approx $360 pay per week. Keep in mind the nannies are will be from another country. But as I am from another country and have lived here for 40 years I rather a foreigner than someone from the US. I think you have o do your research and find a quality person who is willing to accept. You may consider adding another child to the mix to attract a better nanny.

If I were you I would 1st consider reducing the hours from 50 to 40-45 (no more than 45 hours/ weekly) and if go thru your employer and select the dependent care option this will save you $$ per year, make sure you pay taxes for your nanny and offer a few perks like cell phone, day off from from time to time etc.

Also, depending on the state that you live in you may NOT have to pay overtime (time & 1/2). In my state if the nanny lives with me I'm not obligated to pay overtime over 40 hours. I can just pay straight time over 40 hours.

There are a lot that you should do and must know. If you don't know then you have to do your research as you want to do everything legally.

Good luck!

Truly yours,
Patty Cakes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband and I are at the begninning stages of looking for childcare. We're thinking about starting a nanny share and are hoping this would mean saving a little money. Please weigh in on whether we're way off base with pay or not. We are in the Landmark area of Alexandria.

Here are the expectations:
-Care for two children under 1 yr. old (Full-time, 50 hrs/week, paid Fed holidays off, summers off unpaid)
-Light child-related housekeeping

Pay: Total of $400/week -$1600/month- ($200/weekly per family)

Do we stand any chance of finding a great nanny at this level of pay?

No. If you can't afford to pay a living wage, you or your spouse needs to do the care of your newborn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband and I are at the begninning stages of looking for childcare. We're thinking about starting a nanny share and are hoping this would mean saving a little money. Please weigh in on whether we're way off base with pay or not. We are in the Landmark area of Alexandria.

Here are the expectations:
-Care for two children under 1 yr. old (Full-time, 50 hrs/week, paid Fed holidays off, summers off unpaid)
-Light child-related housekeeping

Pay: Total of $400/week -$1600/month- ($200/weekly per family)

Do we stand any chance of finding a great nanny at this level of pay?

Can you live on less than $21,000 a year? You couldn't get an illegal for this amount.

[Anonymous]

Is op a troll, or what?

[Anonymous]

You are talking about an au pair. Au pairs are not allowed to take care of kids from two different families. Plus you need to provide room and food that would be more than $360 per week.
Educate yourself before you post something so stupid

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband and I are at the begninning stages of looking for childcare. We're thinking about starting a nanny share and are hoping this would mean saving a little money. Please weigh in on whether we're way off base with pay or not. We are in the Landmark area of Alexandria.

Here are the expectations:
-Care for two children under 1 yr. old (Full-time, 50 hrs/week, paid Fed holidays off, summers off unpaid)
-Light child-related housekeeping

Pay: Total of $400/week -$1600/month- ($200/weekly per family)

Do we stand any chance of finding a great nanny at this level of pay?

No, you are not low balling. If you were to use an agency you will get 45 hours of care for approx $360 pay per week. Keep in mind the nannies are will be from another country. But as I am from another country and have lived here for 40 years I rather a foreigner than someone from the US. I think you have o do your research and find a quality person who is willing to accept. You may consider adding another hild to the mix to attract a better nanny.

If I were you I would 1st consider reducing the hours from 50 to 40-45 (no more than 45 hours/ weekly) and if go thru your employer and select the dependent care option this will save you $$ per year, make sure you pay taxes for your nanny and offer a few perks like cell phone, day off from from time to time etc.

Good luck!

Truly yours,
Patty Cakes

[Anonymous]

If you don't mind OP where are you from ?