"Competitive pay" is "average" pay?

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Anonymous wrote:So if you know you're far above average (and you're used to be compensated accordingly,) don't bother speaking with parents offering "competitive" pay?

In the DC area, average nanny pay is in the $17-20/hour range.
The better nannies can earn $25-30+.

We pay our Nanny 16.00 an hour. She is pretty awesome. Of course you can find nannies that exclusively cater to the very rich (see 25.00+). That is just crazy, but if you have the money.... why not spend it.

I think $16/hr to keep someone child alive is crazy. Why would an educated and experienced nanny accept that. Sounds like she might be awesome but not very smart. Who wants a dummy watching their kids? Oh you do.

Most nannies don't have a master's degree or even a college degree.

Ok. And? Are you trying to make some point about low paying someone to keep your child alive and safe?

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Anonymous wrote:There are a couple meanings here. The phrase "competitive pay" is what most job postings say when they don't want to disclose the amount upfront, but they want to indicate that they likely could match what you currently make - assuming you're earning market rate.

In pure economic terms, when there is strong competition in a sector - childcare in this instance - then the competition will yield an average, competitive rate. In this area, the published averages are $15-20. If you want higher than average, than perhaps "top dollar" is more the buzz phrase you're looking for.

NP and not a nanny - Here in Los Angeles, the minimum wage $15. How a nanny would accept the same rate as a McDonalds worker or cleaning person blows my mind. Is that for one child?!

Because its a much easier job.

For a sitter, sure. For a nanny? No way!

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Anonymous wrote:So I noticed parents now saying "highly competitive" pay. What would that range be? It has to be better than your competitive average pay, right?

We recently hired a nanny and advertised competitive pay. Had no problem interviewing 8 applicants and getting an offer accepted by our top choice at $20/hr. We "guarantee" 40hrs a week pay for 52 weeks with 4 weeks PTO (2 weeks our choice, 2 weeks nanny choice) and all federal holidays paid and off. Even though we often only use 32-35. All paid on the books.

Our current nanny is a native english speaker, 10 years experience in 2 homes, perfect driving record, and child free by choice, but married.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a couple meanings here. The phrase "competitive pay" is what most job postings say when they don't want to disclose the amount upfront, but they want to indicate that they likely could match what you currently make - assuming you're earning market rate.

In pure economic terms, when there is strong competition in a sector - childcare in this instance - then the competition will yield an average, competitive rate. In this area, the published averages are $15-20. If you want higher than average, than perhaps "top dollar" is more the buzz phrase you're looking for.

NP and not a nanny - Here in Los Angeles, the minimum wage $15. How a nanny would accept the same rate as a McDonalds worker or cleaning person blows my mind. Is that for one child?!

Because its a much easier job.

For a sitter, sure. For a nanny? No way!

As a nanny myself you could not pay me $100/hr to take a job at McDonalds or as a house cleaner. I don't want to work crazy shift hours or holidays or weekends, or nights, nor do I want to do hard manual labor.

No thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a couple meanings here. The phrase "competitive pay" is what most job postings say when they don't want to disclose the amount upfront, but they want to indicate that they likely could match what you currently make - assuming you're earning market rate.

In pure economic terms, when there is strong competition in a sector - childcare in this instance - then the competition will yield an average, competitive rate. In this area, the published averages are $15-20. If you want higher than average, than perhaps "top dollar" is more the buzz phrase you're looking for.

NP and not a nanny - Here in Los Angeles, the minimum wage $15. How a nanny would accept the same rate as a McDonalds worker or cleaning person blows my mind. Is that for one child?!

Because its a much easier job.

For a sitter, sure. For a nanny? No way!

As a nanny myself you could not pay me $100/hr to take a job at McDonalds or as a house cleaner. I don't want to work crazy shift hours or holidays or weekends, or nights, nor do I want to do hard manual labor.

No thanks.

As a 54 year old nanny that has spent many grueling years in restaurant kitchens before becoming a nanny, and has done lots of cleaning to help bosses out- I appreciate your honesty, but you are absolutely coming from a huge privileged place there. When I was a single mom for a bit, I had a 50 hour a week nanny job, plus housecleaning gigs on the side, to keep a roof over our heads. Everyone, unless you're disabled, should do some "hard labor" so you appreciate how hard it is to manage that all day, for terrible wages and no benefits, and have a family too.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a couple meanings here. The phrase "competitive pay" is what most job postings say when they don't want to disclose the amount upfront, but they want to indicate that they likely could match what you currently make - assuming you're earning market rate.

In pure economic terms, when there is strong competition in a sector - childcare in this instance - then the competition will yield an average, competitive rate. In this area, the published averages are $15-20. If you want higher than average, than perhaps "top dollar" is more the buzz phrase you're looking for.

NP and not a nanny - Here in Los Angeles, the minimum wage $15. How a nanny would accept the same rate as a McDonalds worker or cleaning person blows my mind. Is that for one child?!

Because its a much easier job.

For a sitter, sure. For a nanny? No way!

As a nanny myself you could not pay me $100/hr to take a job at McDonalds or as a house cleaner. I don't want to work crazy shift hours or holidays or weekends, or nights, nor do I want to do hard manual labor.

No thanks.

Can you imagine all of the struggling service industry workers that would be grateful for just a few more dollars an hour. I would happily work cleaning for 100 an hour- I would feel rich.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a couple meanings here. The phrase "competitive pay" is what most job postings say when they don't want to disclose the amount upfront, but they want to indicate that they likely could match what you currently make - assuming you're earning market rate.

In pure economic terms, when there is strong competition in a sector - childcare in this instance - then the competition will yield an average, competitive rate. In this area, the published averages are $15-20. If you want higher than average, than perhaps "top dollar" is more the buzz phrase you're looking for.

NP and not a nanny - Here in Los Angeles, the minimum wage $15. How a nanny would accept the same rate as a McDonalds worker or cleaning person blows my mind. Is that for one child?!

Because its a much easier job.

For a sitter, sure. For a nanny? No way!

As a nanny myself you could not pay me $100/hr to take a job at McDonalds or as a house cleaner. I don't want to work crazy shift hours or holidays or weekends, or nights, nor do I want to do hard manual labor.

No thanks.

As a 54 year old nanny that has spent many grueling years in restaurant kitchens before becoming a nanny, and has done lots of cleaning to help bosses out- I appreciate your honesty, but you are absolutely coming from a huge privileged place there. When I was a single mom for a bit, I had a 50 hour a week nanny job, plus housecleaning gigs on the side, to keep a roof over our heads. Everyone, unless you're disabled, should do some "hard labor" so you appreciate how hard it is to manage that all day, for terrible wages and no benefits, and have a family too.

I'm sorry your life has been hard. However someone was implying that being a nanny is harder than working as a house cleaner or at McDonalds. I would say that working as a house cleaner or at McDonalds is one of the hardest jobs one could have and, my CHOICE is to not do that job and do an easier job, like work as I do as a nanny. Right now I have 2 taking naps. I'm getting paid $20/hr for sitting here. If it is a matter of $100/hr working nights, weekends and holidays at McDonalds, or $20/hr M-F with weekends and hilodays off and a few weeks PTO a year...yea, I'm sticking with my nanny gig over working the fryer.

BTW, I am not "privileged" that I use birth control since I cannot afford, nor want to be a single parent. That is called being a responsible adult and making sure I take reproductive control over my body.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a couple meanings here. The phrase "competitive pay" is what most job postings say when they don't want to disclose the amount upfront, but they want to indicate that they likely could match what you currently make - assuming you're earning market rate.

In pure economic terms, when there is strong competition in a sector - childcare in this instance - then the competition will yield an average, competitive rate. In this area, the published averages are $15-20. If you want higher than average, than perhaps "top dollar" is more the buzz phrase you're looking for.

NP and not a nanny - Here in Los Angeles, the minimum wage $15. How a nanny would accept the same rate as a McDonalds worker or cleaning person blows my mind. Is that for one child?!

Because its a much easier job.

For a sitter, sure. For a nanny? No way!

As a nanny myself you could not pay me $100/hr to take a job at McDonalds or as a house cleaner. I don't want to work crazy shift hours or holidays or weekends, or nights, nor do I want to do hard manual labor.

No thanks.

As a 54 year old nanny that has spent many grueling years in restaurant kitchens before becoming a nanny, and has done lots of cleaning to help bosses out- I appreciate your honesty, but you are absolutely coming from a huge privileged place there. When I was a single mom for a bit, I had a 50 hour a week nanny job, plus housecleaning gigs on the side, to keep a roof over our heads. Everyone, unless you're disabled, should do some "hard labor" so you appreciate how hard it is to manage that all day, for terrible wages and no benefits, and have a family too.

I'm sorry your life has been hard. However someone was implying that being a nanny is harder than working as a house cleaner or at McDonalds. I would say that working as a house cleaner or at McDonalds is one of the hardest jobs one could have and, my CHOICE is to not do that job and do an easier job, like work as I do as a nanny. Right now I have 2 taking naps. I'm getting paid $20/hr for sitting here. If it is a matter of $100/hr working nights, weekends and holidays at McDonalds, or $20/hr M-F with weekends and hilodays off and a few weeks PTO a year...yea, I'm sticking with my nanny gig over working the fryer.

BTW, I am not "privileged" that I use birth control since I cannot afford, nor want to be a single parent. That is called being a responsible adult and making sure I take reproductive control over my body.

I've had nanny jobs that were as difficult as a cooking job- but I specialise in difficult preschoolers
Thanks for the lecture, but I was married and my marriage didn't quite work out. My life hasn't been hard- but I know what hard work feels like. I'm glad you get to avoid that and don't need the money. Many of us actually aren't as lucky!