For nannies who think they need to paid more than nannies do get paid

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Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

There is nothing wrong with teaching your child to study hard.
I think the anger toward this thread is the fact that OP is teaching her child that people "who didn't study" (trash collectors, nannies, landscapers, etc.) have less value than people who "studied hard" (lawyers, doctors).

But is that not true? Working a job automatically gives you equal value as every other person on the planet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP's statement (or variation) is a common line I heard where I was raised.

Of course it is not 100% absolutely true, but you also teach you kids to be nice to everyone at the playground. You don't select people out because they are unlikely to be your friend.

Figure out what makes you happy and do that is important, but equally important is to teach your kids how to look out for themselves in the world, take care of themselves and be self sustaining so that they are not a burden to those around them.

I told my kids similar things too. I do not think it is materialistic nor the wrong message.

I disagree with your approach in that you are equating education with future (possible) salary. It is like telling a kid to practice tennis so that they one day make the pros rather than for the love of the game. Learning is a life long quest and should never be equated with money.

I want my children to be happy in their lives - if that means being the best third grade teacher on the planet (with extremely limited learning potential) but it is what makes them happy then that is what I want them to do.

I think a lot of us have very different values.

Being a third grade teacher, at least in this country, means that the pay is not worth it to even send your kids to daycare. You'll be making something about minimum wage after you pay for daycare for 1. Most moms decide it is not worth it to work and stay home with the children, at least until they are much older.

This means if your dream is a 3rd grade teacher, you will often have that career until you have kids and then you become stay at home mom. Kids deserve a heads up about the realities of finances when they pick their dream job. Will they like being 3rd grade teacher for 10 years then being stay-at-home mom for 10 years, or would they rather be a doctor or a lawyer for 20 years? The jobs that are financially rewarding and give the most flexibility and options in life to do what you please are often the ones that you have to have a lot of education for, unless you are extremely very lucky.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP's statement (or variation) is a common line I heard where I was raised.

Of course it is not 100% absolutely true, but you also teach you kids to be nice to everyone at the playground. You don't select people out because they are unlikely to be your friend.

Figure out what makes you happy and do that is important, but equally important is to teach your kids how to look out for themselves in the world, take care of themselves and be self sustaining so that they are not a burden to those around them.

I told my kids similar things too. I do not think it is materialistic nor the wrong message.

I disagree with your approach in that you are equating education with future (possible) salary. It is like telling a kid to practice tennis so that they one day make the pros rather than for the love of the game. Learning is a life long quest and should never be equated with money.

I want my children to be happy in their lives - if that means being the best third grade teacher on the planet (with extremely limited learning potential) but it is what makes them happy then that is what I want them to do.

I think a lot of us have very different values.

Being a third grade teacher, at least in this country, means that the pay is not worth it to even send your kids to daycare. You'll be making something about minimum wage after you pay for daycare for 1. Most moms decide it is not worth it to work and stay home with the children, at least until they are much older.

This means if your dream is a 3rd grade teacher, you will often have that career until you have kids and then you become stay at home mom. Kids deserve a heads up about the realities of finances when they pick their dream job. Will they like being 3rd grade teacher for 10 years then being stay-at-home mom for 10 years, or would they rather be a doctor or a lawyer for 20 years? The jobs that are financially rewarding and give the most flexibility and options in life to do what you please are often the ones that you have to have a lot of education for, unless you are extremely very lucky.

You and I have very different values, PP. I want my children to be happy in their careers regardless of salary.

My little brother was pushed into being a lawyers by my mother. He has a gorgeous singing voice and is a very talented musician. My mother pushed him into majoring in history rather than music at Stanford and then pushed hard for him to go to law school siting all of your examples and then some. My poor brother is miserable as a real estate attorney but my mother brags that he is a "success" because he bought his own condo at 30.

"The saddest words of tongue or pen are that of these - what might have been".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

There is nothing wrong with teaching your child to study hard.
I think the anger toward this thread is the fact that OP is teaching her child that people "who didn't study" (trash collectors, nannies, landscapers, etc.) have less value than people who "studied hard" (lawyers, doctors).

But is that not true? Working a job automatically gives you equal value as every other person on the planet?

The value should be given by intrinsic value for what they do, not how much money they earn.

However, in that case, the nannies on this board should be extremely satisfied with their job instead of all that goes on complaining about MBs and their low pay. They should be some of the most satisfied people on earth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

There is nothing wrong with teaching your child to study hard.
I think the anger toward this thread is the fact that OP is teaching her child that people "who didn't study" (trash collectors, nannies, landscapers, etc.) have less value than people who "studied hard" (lawyers, doctors).

But is that not true? Working a job automatically gives you equal value as every other person on the planet?

The value should be given by intrinsic value for what they do, not how much money they earn.

However, in that case, the nannies on this board should be extremely satisfied with their job instead of all that goes on complaining about MBs and their low pay. They should be some of the most satisfied people on earth.

Please stop. As a PP pointed out, nurses, firefighters, teachers, etc generally feel underpaid for the service they provide and most people on earth have had issues with thier bosses in every filed and in every job. Please stop embarrassing yourself by singling out nannies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

There is nothing wrong with teaching your child to study hard.
I think the anger toward this thread is the fact that OP is teaching her child that people "who didn't study" (trash collectors, nannies, landscapers, etc.) have less value than people who "studied hard" (lawyers, doctors).

But is that not true? Working a job automatically gives you equal value as every other person on the planet?

The value should be given by intrinsic value for what they do, not how much money they earn.

However, in that case, the nannies on this board should be extremely satisfied with their job instead of all that goes on complaining about MBs and their low pay. They should be some of the most satisfied people on earth.

Please stop. As a PP pointed out, nurses, firefighters, teachers, etc generally feel underpaid for the service they provide and most people on earth have had issues with thier bosses in every filed and in every job. Please stop embarrassing yourself by singling out nannies.

There are some nannies who do it because they love children and it is what makes them happy. There are a LOT of nannies who do this because it is the only job they are qualified for and they need to make money to make a living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was walking with my son this morning and a garbage truck drove by. He said "What's that smell?" I told him it's the garbage truck. I said "If you don't learn your ABCs and reading, you will get a job as a garbage truck and get just a little bit of money. If you study hard, you can have a big desk next to the big window in a tall building like daddy where everything is clean and make lots of money."

Nannies, if you don't like your MBs or what you are getting paid as nannies, go get yourself an education and do something else. You go out and get that job that MBs have that pays $100k. Then you can go out and hire a nanny and pay whatever you think they deserve.

You don't understand how is the work force operate and is given bad information to your child. Garbage collectors are community helpers that keep our community clean and make sure playground and road are clean for children to grow and play. A lot of people have degree and don't know how to make $, in fact they make less $ and have a lower life stiles than a garbage collector.

Also, nanny are dedicated and skillful people that make it possible for YOUto make so much $ as mention before. They give good care of one of the person that I suppose that u love the most and deserve quality child care. And that is why good nannies should be paid good salary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP's statement (or variation) is a common line I heard where I was raised.

Of course it is not 100% absolutely true, but you also teach you kids to be nice to everyone at the playground. You don't select people out because they are unlikely to be your friend.

Figure out what makes you happy and do that is important, but equally important is to teach your kids how to look out for themselves in the world, take care of themselves and be self sustaining so that they are not a burden to those around them.

I told my kids similar things too. I do not think it is materialistic nor the wrong message.

I disagree with your approach in that you are equating education with future (possible) salary. It is like telling a kid to practice tennis so that they one day make the pros rather than for the love of the game. Learning is a life long quest and should never be equated with money.

I want my children to be happy in their lives - if that means being the best third grade teacher on the planet (with extremely limited learning potential) but it is what makes them happy then that is what I want them to do.

I think a lot of us have very different values.

Being a third grade teacher, at least in this country, means that the pay is not worth it to even send your kids to daycare. You'll be making something about minimum wage after you pay for daycare for 1. Most moms decide it is not worth it to work and stay home with the children, at least until they are much older.

This means if your dream is a 3rd grade teacher, you will often have that career until you have kids and then you become stay at home mom. Kids deserve a heads up about the realities of finances when they pick their dream job. Will they like being 3rd grade teacher for 10 years then being stay-at-home mom for 10 years, or would they rather be a doctor or a lawyer for 20 years? The jobs that are financially rewarding and give the most flexibility and options in life to do what you please are often the ones that you have to have a lot of education for, unless you are extremely very lucky.

Do you really believe lawyers have the most flexibility? Doctors? Go talk to some ER doctors who have to miss family holidays and birthday parties because they have to work. Talk to the big law lawyers who work 50-60 hours per week, if not more.
You are so ill informed. I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP's statement (or variation) is a common line I heard where I was raised.

Of course it is not 100% absolutely true, but you also teach you kids to be nice to everyone at the playground. You don't select people out because they are unlikely to be your friend.

Figure out what makes you happy and do that is important, but equally important is to teach your kids how to look out for themselves in the world, take care of themselves and be self sustaining so that they are not a burden to those around them.

I told my kids similar things too. I do not think it is materialistic nor the wrong message.

I disagree with your approach in that you are equating education with future (possible) salary. It is like telling a kid to practice tennis so that they one day make the pros rather than for the love of the game. Learning is a life long quest and should never be equated with money.

I want my children to be happy in their lives - if that means being the best third grade teacher on the planet (with extremely limited learning potential) but it is what makes them happy then that is what I want them to do.

I think a lot of us have very different values.

Being a third grade teacher, at least in this country, means that the pay is not worth it to even send your kids to daycare. You'll be making something about minimum wage after you pay for daycare for 1. Most moms decide it is not worth it to work and stay home with the children, at least until they are much older.

This means if your dream is a 3rd grade teacher, you will often have that career until you have kids and then you become stay at home mom. Kids deserve a heads up about the realities of finances when they pick their dream job. Will they like being 3rd grade teacher for 10 years then being stay-at-home mom for 10 years, or would they rather be a doctor or a lawyer for 20 years? The jobs that are financially rewarding and give the most flexibility and options in life to do what you please are often the ones that you have to have a lot of education for, unless you are extremely very lucky.

Do you really believe lawyers have the most flexibility? Doctors? Go talk to some ER doctors who have to miss family holidays and birthday parties because they have to work. Talk to the big law lawyers who work 50-60 hours per week, if not more.
You are so ill informed. I feel sorry for you.

In terms of free time, no, but doctors and lawyers do have the most options in life. They can decide if they want a nanny and work, or if they want to stay at home. They get to pick the choicest nannies by offering the most money, for instance.

They have the most options in deciding on vacation spots or where to live.

These are the things that nannies are so bitter about on this board. If you want those things, and being able to pick where you can live, what you can buy, who to watch your children, where you on vacation, even what you eat. If being able to pick all those things are important to you, then no, you cannot be a nanny or any of the lower paying jobs in this society. That's a fact of life. You can choose to like it or not like it but it is how things are. If OP choses to instill that into her children early, on, I think that is smart. Kids make their own choices and decide to become a musician or artist or whatever they love, against their parents' advice all the time. It does not mean that this child is going to become a money hungry scum. He'll just grow up with a more realistic perspective on life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was walking with my son this morning and a garbage truck drove by. He said "What's that smell?" I told him it's the garbage truck. I said "If you don't learn your ABCs and reading, you will get a job as a garbage truck and get just a little bit of money. If you study hard, you can have a big desk next to the big window in a tall building like daddy where everything is clean and make lots of money."

Nannies, if you don't like your MBs or what you are getting paid as nannies, go get yourself an education and do something else. You go out and get that job that MBs have that pays $100k. Then you can go out and hire a nanny and pay whatever you think they deserve.

TROLL ALERT

No one talks like that. Garbage truck workers make $50K-90k plus union benefits. Big waitlist to start too. Most educated people know how much local government services overpay, since they are taxpayers and know where their tax dollars go. Whomever wrote OP's post is stupid and naïve.

[Anonymous]

I just wanted to clarify OP that no matter how much education anyone gets, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get a job as a garbage truck. A garbage truck is an inanimate object that cannot be duplicated or cloned.

I am a nanny + I see your point.

As w/anything in life, if you're not happy w/something then only you can make the change(s) to live and have the type of life that you want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to clarify OP that no matter how much education anyone gets, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get a job as a garbage truck. A garbage truck is an inanimate object that cannot be duplicated or cloned.

That is the best line I've ever seen! Now I'm kicking myself for not reading what was actually written...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to clarify OP that no matter how much education anyone gets, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get a job as a garbage truck. A garbage truck is an inanimate object that cannot be duplicated or cloned.

That is the best line I've ever seen! Now I'm kicking myself for not reading what was actually written...

Nearly impossible means it is possible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shut the hell up. There wouldn't be such high demand for nannies if you old women didn't rely on nannies to raise your children. A bunch of you moms are nothing but dead beat egg donors. Spit them out and you're done with them. F.Y.I - Children are humans, not an accessory. Get a clue and appreciate the people who are raising your children.

Are you telling me to shut up?

I make more than my husband and yes, I make way more than $6 figures.

To what you said, OK. You keep living your life your way.

I'm an MB, not a nanny. 100k isn't much, sweetie. I make $200k + and my DH makes 600k +. We have a combined met worth of $8 million. We have a PT nanny and pay her $23 per hour, health insurance, gym membership, and a car. Pay your nanny well. They are clearly the one raising your children.

You must be living in a shack because I alone make 7 figures but we do not pay the nannies gym membership, higher than average rate, etc. in other words in the DC area, your numbers don't buy money to burn

I made a typo. Our combine net worth is $18 million and growing. My husband owns a very successful business. We definitely do not live in a shack. We live in a 4 bedroom high rise in Manhattan, and have two vacation homes. We are living very well, thank you!

How many hours/week for the $23/hour part time gig?

What does your successful husband think about your time spent posting on little ol DCUM nanny threads all day/night? Just here to help out nannies and give honest advice from your honest identity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to clarify OP that no matter how much education anyone gets, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get a job as a garbage truck. A garbage truck is an inanimate object that cannot be duplicated or cloned.

That is the best line I've ever seen! Now I'm kicking myself for not reading what was actually written...

Yeah, yuck, depreciating asset. Wouldn't want that for my kid either.